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Court buys this? >> no. absolutely not. as the argument in the federal appeals court made clear, taken to its logical extension his position acting in the country by assassinating a political rival, sending s.e.a.l. team 6 to kill someone, if it didn't, working, in his view for the people, it's okay? that can't be the law. ultimately for a jury of washington, d.c. citizens to decide if he intended to disrupt the joint session and if that meets the elements of a criminal statute. he can make that very same argument to a jury saying i was well-intentioned. thought in the best interests of the co...

Carry this out forever to the point that he is going to continue to say these things to scare the american people are wrong. we have seen a lot of states come together and do more election integrity bills. we need to do more than that. we still have three or four states i'm worried about that don't have that. at the end of the, day i will always defend and fight for the constitution. that is what we should do as americans. i think what happened on january 6th was a terrible day. i think president trump of the answer for it. >> so there is that. after that, one of the moderators asked what i th...

They use the same rhetoric that trump uses, that there's a two-tiered system of justice and things like that. so nine days later we see polling that shows trump hasn't been hurt by that, and we wonder why. if republican candidates don't give republican voters a place to go, they're not going to go anywhere. and that's been consistent now for the better part of a year. >> i mean, what's the democratic sense, that it will -- they'll be able to say, well, donald trump has to be in the courtroom, he can't be out here making this argument today. >> and also that he's a threat to our democracy. the ...

Political congress gets to decide. it made absolutely no sense. and i was there in the courtroom. and it was just -- it was devastating. >> you were in the courtroom today as these arguments were being made, george? >> yeah. i was sitting way in the back, but i could hear it pretty well except for maybe judge henderson, whose voice was a little soft. it was absolutely -- it was one of those moments, and i'm writing a piece in "the atlantic" tonight that should come out tomorrow, where you know before -- it was like ten minutes into the argument when judge pan just completely demolished trump's...

The limits to presidential immunity. we could be in for an entirely new definition maybe here. but i wonder what you made of this assertion by trump's team that the only way to hold a president accountable for crimes was to first have them convicted in an impeachment proceeding by the senate. >> well, the short answer is what they were doing there was taking a bad argument, their immunity argument, and conflating it with another bad argument, which is something based upon the impeachment judgment clause, and mixing them all together in the hope of getting a stronger together. and what happened...