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0 retrograde our equipment and that was accomplished. general miller executed the plan in accordance with the plan. a key part of the plan was to maintain an embassy in kabul and maintaining that embassy would allow the government to continue to provide resources to support the afghan security sources. so it was, the plan was to leave a diplomatic presence there and in conjunction with that plan, we were going to leave a small military force there to help secure the embassy. that was the plan, senator. >> but you didn't address the issue, you made, it was your plan, you acknowledged it was you...

Debacle now sph. >> afghan political leadership and the incentive structure the united states and many of its international allies put in place, we setup an incentive structure that rewarded the most corrupt. and again, i beg to differ with you, tommy. a lot of us it's not in hindsight. a lot of us had been talking about pakistan and corruption for years. that interagency process -- sorry? >> i think what was lacking were the solutions. you know, it's not like they weren't -- >> i'm sorry, tommy. the number of plans, the number of extremely explicit governance campaign plans that were put

Oval office, the chief of staff, the president or some senior official placed that call immediately to omb to start that call. and i think this is just a fraction of the documents that we hope to see. and i think senator schumer, if he were able to get his hands on, we'd start to fill out this picture of what exactly happened. >> we are looking at this email in the context of senator schumer's letter to his senate colleagues. what type of information, what type of documents does senator schumer belief might be offered that would change the contours of this impeachment inquiry? >> well, first o...

Inaccurate and that this hold had been announced before and it was all part of an interagency process. well, if that was the case, then why did michael duffey send another email on september 11th saying "i'm glad this issue is behind us"? when i read that, that indicated to me that he was aware at the time of how unusual all this was. >> david, congress didn't raise this, but your organization's reporting did suggest that the mere withholding of the aid may have been illegal. how so? >> yeah, well, there's something, an act, a 45-year-old law that's on the books that basically says, all right,...

White house was withholding security aid to ukraine during conversations with ambassador taylor on july 18th, 2019. however, as i testified before, i was never able to obtain a clearance regarding the specific reason for the hold, whether it was bureaucratic that in nature, which often happens or indicated concern in the interagency process. i never participated in any of the subsequent dod or dos review meetings that others have described so i can't speak to what was discussed in those meetings. nonetheless, before the september 1st warsaw meeting, the ukrainians had become aware that securit...