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“Do you think we’ll ever use unpaid interns?” a friend once asked while we were being used as unpaid interns. It was 2011, in the thick of the long slog of the Great Recession, and we were both working for no pay at different book publishers in one of the most expensive cities in the United States. A few months later, an encampment started in Manhattan’s financial district to protest runaway economic inequality, student debt, and the unfettered greed of Wall Street; sometimes we joined the marches or went to reading groups where we struggled through the first volume of

Prevalent. first i tried to get people to, like, form some kind of watchdog group or form from within and there was no interest. finally, about a year later, a book came out, "intern nation" and i introduced myself to him and i started thinking, there's a chapter in the book, "lawsuit waiting to happen." i kept thinking, my god, i can't believe i'm the one who's going to file that lawsuit to finally, like, get this to stop. and i realized i was the one in the perfect position to do it. >> and so you were not the first. there have been others. they have not faired well. they've been thrown out....

Heesive. we want to help those who want to be free be free. if that means being more agressive in arming them, then that should be done. >> thank you very much for explaining the stakes. a little short on time but i know we'll be coming back to this. thank you both for your thoughts. texas expected to be a big night for mitt. we're talking 20 20 politics with the mega panel. the author of the controversial book "intern nation" joins us live. pleels stay with us.

Low-wage wager has been a boon. they're often doing the work of employers but with no salary, no medical care and no. he's the author of "intern nation ", how to earn little in this country. what would you say first? i know lots of kids who are either in college or just coming out of college, internships that are unpaid are basically their only option to get a toehold in the work force. you think that's really a disaster for the economy. say why. >> that's right, matt, internships have become a prerequisite for young people wanting to enter the white color work force which is where prestigious...