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Transcripts for MSNBC Dateline 20240604 10:23:00

Wreck. michele was screaming and furious. i know of that from past behaviors that there was an occasion where michele was having a tantrum that she would open the door and scream things down the stairs and then slam her bedroom door. and she did that so many times she actually broke the door frame from doing that. that she was just completely out of control. but lloyd admitted his information was secondhand. he d heard the stories from his children. i don t even know if she was seeing anybody or who else she was doing things with. she really pushed me out of her life. lloyd spoke with police for over an hour. as the interview ended, he had a question. when could the kids retrieve their stuff? in case i could pass on word there any idea when the kids could get into the house to we ll look into that too. if it were a simple suicide, the investigation wouldn t take long. but new york state investigator eric heard, who ....

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Transcripts for MSNBC Dateline 20240604 10:26:00

Was pushed out of place. he spent hours poring over the pictures. looking at the wall and kind of zooming in, you can see things that maybe not visible to they didn t jump out at first. they didn t jump out at first, but it looks like we see something, it looks like blood on the wall. so that was concerning. blood on the wall and a bed out of place. to heard it pointed to only one scenario. it appeared that there was a struggle. he believed michele had been attacked, the suicide scene staged. at the house there was no sign of forced entry. nothing taken. and investigators theorized that a random intruder wouldn t bother arranging such an elaborate scene. an unknown intruder, the one-armed man doesn t figure in here either, right? no, we never thought that. no, they thought. someone close to michele had to be responsible. so what do we do now is the question, right? yes. it was time to go looking for suspects. investigators start with the ....

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Transcripts for MSNBC Dateline 20240604 06:25:00

Of zooming in, you can see things that maybe not visible to they didn t jump out at first. they didn t jump out at first, but it looks like we see something, it looks like blood on the wall. so that was concerning. blood on the wall and a bed out of place. to heard it pointed to only one scenario. it appeared that there was a struggle. he believed michele had been attacked, the suicide scene staged. at the house there was no sign of forced entry. nothing taken. and investigators theorized that a random intruder wouldn t bother arranging such an elaborate scene. an unknown intruder, the one-armed man doesn t figure in here either, right? no, we never thought that. no, they thought. someone close to michele had to be responsible. so what do we do now is the question, right? yes. it was time to go looking for suspects. investigators start with the obvious suspect, michele s ....

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Transcripts for MSNBC Dateline 20240604 06:22:00

Over an hour. as the interview ended, he had a question. when could the kids retrieve their stuff? in case i could pass on word there any idea when the kids could get into the house to we ll look into that too. if it were a simple suicide, the investigation wouldn t take long. but new york state investigator eric heard, who was among the first on the scene, thought not so fast. my gut was telling me there s something wrong here. it wasn t just cop intuition. there was physical evidence in his experience inconsistent with a suicide. starting with a position of the thin nylon rope on michele s body. the way that it went around her chin did not seem consistent with a hanging. he noticed wounds on michele s head, too. on her face it looks like scratch marks, like maybe she s pulling at whatever is around her neck, trying to get it off. and then there was michele s friend rose. she rushed up to the scene with something urgent to say. apparent suicide. did that ....

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Transcripts for MSNBC Dateline 20240604 08:23:00

lloyd spoke with police for over an hour. as the interview ended, he had a question. when could the kids retrieve their stuff? in case i could pass on word there any idea when the kids could get into the house to we ll look into that too. if it were a simple suicide, the investigation wouldn t take long. but new york state investigator eric heard, who was among the first on the scene, thought not so fast. my gut was telling me there s something wrong here. it wasn t just cop intuition. there was physical evidence in his experience inconsistent with a suicide. starting with a position of the thin nylon rope on michele s body. the way that it went around her chin did not seem consistent with a hanging. he noticed wounds on michele s head, too. on her face it looks like scratch marks, like maybe she s pulling at whatever is around her neck, trying to get it off. and then there was michele s friend rose. she rushed up to the scene with something urgent to say. appar ....

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