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would you make -- we've all done the reporting of how president biden got to the point of a commitment on a black women to the supreme court. what do you make of that? i won't call it omission, but we didn't hear the name. >> yeah, look, we did not hear the nape. would knows what was behind that. this is one of the interesting moments where something that might be v been political expedient was the right thing to do. it was past time number one for the supreme court to have a majority of non-white men. but to have a sprinkling that looks more like america. i was struck along the lines of words the president used today when describing ketanji brown jackson. heized excellence, calm, humility, poise, composure, patience, restraint. it is really just a remarkable nominee. it is the omission, i think, of congressman clyburn's name was