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Of those two candidates comes out of iowa with any delegates. i think the other factor to think about here, john and alisyn, is that we're looking at this from the standpoint of iowans not having caucused yet. as you all know, the minute we get through that first state, all the national numbers begin to scramble. somebody wins. there's excitement and momentum around that candidate and all the numbers we're seeing begin to change. we don't know what that sworwors going to look like. it's hard to draw conclugss clu about who is going to be viable. >> josh, j. mart, great to see you both. we've...

Now. but he's right. he's the one everybody is talking about. i also appreciate and that he and j. mart coordinated their polo shirts. he is in that role going to be the one that should be attacked. you could say we shouldn't have a food fight. this is the reality. people have to differentiate themselves, whether it's a big field or small field. they're going to do that. when he's the top guy, he's the one taking the hits. >> i totally agree. but if you want to stay in that front-runner position and be above the fray, you have to look that way even when you're surrounded by other candidates. t...

Announces and there are freshman hiccups, i think the irritation that's being expressed right now to people like j-mart might be bad. >> beto o'rourke's image crafters say he's barack obama but white. useful discretions or threads in a lifelong pattern revealing an indelible sense of entitlement? with a charmed life like his, you can never really lose. that's why beto's running for president, because he can. >> i mean, and not declaring he's letting these more predominant voices, these republicans, to define him right now. but if he were to declare in january with everybody else sort of coming...

Presidential run in 2020. >> that's almost. >> that's more than almost on the continuum. joining us now, one of the reporters on the story, jonathan martin, "new york times" political correspondent and cnn political analyst. also with us, joshua green, national correspondent for bloomberg business week and a cnn political analyst, and abby philip, our cnn white house correspondent. okay, j-mart, is he running or not? >> everybody around him wants him to run. the groundwork is being laid. there is a staff in place. they'll have the headquarters in philadelphia and delaware. there are unions lik...

President downplayed it because it doesn't happen on u.s. soil. >> do you agree that vladimir putin is involved in assassinations, in poisoning? >> probably he is, yeah. probably. probably. i rely on them. it's not in america. >> why not -- they shouldn't do it. this is a terrible thing. >> of course they shouldn't do it. >> we have so much to talk about. let's bring in cnn national correspondent marisa ward, "new york times" political analyst jonathan martin and bloomberg business week national correspondent and cnn political analyst josh green. great to see all of you. let's start with warre...