most notably on france and says we're not even close to stabilization. desmond lockman of the europe needs about 1.2 trillion jut to bail out spain and italy. john malden, heavily followed by traders on wall street, says the amount needed could be $5 trillion or $6.2 trillion. i thought $6 trillion was enough. but a hundred billion at that point is just rounding, right? that's about eight t.a.r.p.s. it may not even be enough to save europe because it all requires the help of the united states and the u.s. fed. and, yes, the imf, u.s. taxpayers. this is all central to us and how much ...