It's a big, trillion dollars company. they have as many lawyers as money can buy. they're good at defending themselves. they're putting out positive stories and such a great company, they're doing positive things as well. so, you know i think time will tell whether this disclosure and we hope this does enough to push people to act. >> all right, john tye, thank you very much for coming on the show. we appreciate it. coming up, congressman jim clyburn joins the conversation to discuss democrats' path forward on infrastructure. across the country, thousands of protesters marched on saturday ...