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Andrea Mitchell Reports

seeing success. i think when you look here on the ground in iowa, candidates are going to be trying to make their way around the state. for example, nikki haley was supposed to be here in sioux city, iowa this morning, but if you can see out the window behind me, there's a lot of snow coming down here. it is giving iowa in january in the realist way, jose, and so candidates are struggling not just against the polls and the political factors, but they're struggling against the weather. that's going to be something that we keep in mind here as we might be barrelling towards one of the coldest caucuses that we have seen in decades. iowa voters for their part say they're not fazed by cold weather, by snow. they know how this state works but at the same time, for all of these other candidates, turnout is the central vehicle as it always is and caucusing in and of itself is not a short process. it's not like you're walking into a gym, casting a ballot, turning the lever and getting out of there. you have to stay. you have to interact with your neighbors. your cajoling members of your community to come to your chosen

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on to it but i think after this primary, regardless of who wins, most likely will be donald trump, i think republicans are going to be hard pressed to make the case that iowa needs to stay top of the nation because it is that engagement with the voters. that person to person. because we saw that the most likely winner of iowa barely spent any time there. >> i want to go right now to south carolina where we have live pictures from the mother emanuel church. the scene of that horrific crime in 2015. there you see the president of the united states has just arrived and he's at the podium. i know gabe gutierrez is with us from exactly that location. and gabe, as we await the president's words, which we will of course listen to live, this is such an important event that the president has decided to be at. >> most certainly, jose. he just received a standing

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Chris Jansing Reports

of negotiation around that. and then there's just the matter of time, the first round of budget deals is set to sunset on january 11th. that means not very much time to get a lot of work done, and even though there are two stages to what could potentially be another government shutdown, they're negotiating everything right now, and so in order for them to avert even a partial government shutdown, they've got to make these agreements happen right now. of course, jose, this comes against the backdrop of separate negotiations related to a supplemental package that would benefit ukraine, israel and of course deal with the situation at the border. those negotiators were back at it again today. here's what they had to say about the progress of those negotiations. >> we're certainly narrowing down the issues so when the issues become more narrow, you don't need to meet for as long. >> we're making decisions. >> you know, we're hopeful we'll have something to present to our colleagues soon. >> reporter: you have these two high stakes negotiations coming

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led by maga extremists and donald trump. jose. die,o much to talk to you about. president biden is the first sitting president to deliver a campaign speech at mother emanuel. "the new york times" writes, mr. biden will speak as president in the creaky old sanctuary itself, backed by touring stained glass. one of the messages being that the same hate that plagued this church is still here. how do we address this level of hate our country is facing? >> i think, jose, it requires a kind of honest confrontation. the president invoked the lost cause, and he called our moment the second lost cause. what's so distinctive about that, that effort, that ideological movement was all about denying the reality of what broke the country apart, what tore the country apart, and that is the reality of slavery,

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Andrea Mitchell Reports

state court. that would require that case going up, jose, to the united states supreme court. and again, there, if the united states supreme court says there is no immunity from criminal prosecution for a former or even current president who exceeds the boundaries of their duties with respect to the conduct with which they've been criminally charged, then, i think, you have an argument that it's not only influnable, but it will be binding on the judge. >> just trying to keep track of all of the different cases the former president is dealing with. on thursday, clorguments are expected in trump's new york civil fraud trial james filed a motion asking the judge to fine the trump organization $370 million. more than the $250 million originally estimate. she also wants to ban trump and two former executives from the real estate industry in new

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Chris Jansing Reports

want to get into the particulars. i want to honor the conversation, the privacy of the conversation. i know what i felt. what i feel is this is a time of choosing. this is a moment in which the nation has to in some ways -- what's the phrase he used. we have to confront the old ghost in new garments. we have to confront the old ghost in new garments. that really requires in so many ways understanding that this american experiment stands on the precipice, on the edge. and we have to understand why. i think telling that story forcefully, understanding that genuine justice, genuine equality, genuine democracy is not a zero-sum game. that's the president's language. it's not a zero-sum game. jose, he has to confront the contention, the contradictions, the conflict. those were young people who protested. you saw those folk, those five students who jumped up, the five young folk. there are deep divisions. trying to hold the nation to account to its promise and its

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this historic church in charleston, jose. >> vaughn hillyard, ali, gabe, and victoria, thank you so very much. a programming note for you today. katy tur hosts special coverage one week out from the iowa caucuses. she'll speak with reporters on the ground to understand the latest on the race. that's today at 2:00 p.m. eastern. 11:00 a.m. pacific here on msnbc. up next, breaking last hour, former president trump claiming he's immune from charges in another case against him. we've got the new details. plus, some top republicans are calling for lloyd austin to resign but what's the white house saying about it? we'll bring you the latest when we're back in 60 seconds. you're watching jose diaz-balart reports on msnbc. watching joset reports on msnbc with a very high risk of another heart attack or stroke. he doesn't know with his risk factors his ldl-c (bad cholesterol) is still too high - the recommended level

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point, so it's going to be a really really rocky couple of weeks here on capitol hill. >> it does seem that way, and ryan, finally, the house overnight and judiciary committees are recommending that hunter biden be held in contempt of congress. >> on top of the spending negotiations that jake is talking about that require bipartisan support, republicans are really embarking on a series of very partisan efforts. the one being the potential impeachment of the dhs secretary, alejandro mayorkas, and then the push to hold hunter biden, the president's son in contempt of congress because he defied their subpoena request. they put out a report today, and a resolution that they plan to mark up on wednesday. that could go to the full house in the very near future as part of the broader impeachment inquiry. jose. >> ryan nobles, and jake sherman, thank you both so much. i'm hoe jose diaz-balart on msn reports, thank you for the privilege of your time. stay tuned, our colleague katy

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trial went through congress and he was acquitted, he shouldn't be tried for the se act. i reached out to his attorney in georgia. he sent me a statement basically saying this. president trump today has filed three persuasive motions seeking a complete dismissal of the inindictment to the fulton county d.a.'s politically based prosecution. reached out to the d.a.'s office. they're declining to comment on this as well. but this comes in the context of the d.a.'s office wanting to start this trial in august. trump's attorneys had previously pushed back on that saying it would amount to essentially election interference saing that because it would come in the final week of the 2024 campaign and likely stretch through election day, they want to see that trial date moved, jose. >> thank you so much. lisa, what do you make of these new motions? >> jose, in some respects, this is much adieu about nothing in so far as these are arguments

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york. trump denying any wrong doing in this case. how did the attorney general's office get to the $370 million figure? >> well, let's start, jose, with the premise that this isn't just an ordinary fine. the relief that they're requesting is something called disgorgement. it's essentially the attorney general saying to the court, we want to claw back money that the former president and his companies and other defendants made that are essentially ill gotten gains here. so it's everything from a calculation of the interest that he saved on loans by defrauding his lenders. to things like the $2.5 million that he paid in severance to jeff mcconnie and allen weisselberg. it also includes over $150 million in proceeds from the sale of the lease of the old post office in d.c. where the trump international hotel was situated and the

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