when i looked at the e-mail, i just couldn t even believe it. but after so many tears, so many years, and so many turns in her story i was like whoa. there are still more stunning twists to be revealed. it s amazing. it s the best gift ever. lost and found. hello. welcome to dateline extra. a young girl was abducted at the age of four and raised by her kidnapper. for the next four decades she searched for her family, her name, and herself. her story has an extraordinary ending and as it turns out, that ending was just the beginning. here is keith morrison. our story begins with this mother of a teenage daughter. a woman who had spent most of her life trying to figure out was absent mostly. long stretches away, punk wa. we would go see him because he was coming in from the navy, and so it was an exciting moment, and she would get us all dressed up, and it was the anticipation of going to the shipyard and having a lot of attention. i think as a child. the memories are how she survived it all, all the trouble. holding my mom s hand. having fun with my mom. being in the moment of joy. i don t have bad memories. yes, those. the bad memories. like the day everything good went away. it was 1973. though she and her happy little childhood bubble had no idea what year it was. she knows she was not yet five, that it was autumn, that someone came to the door with a plan. i remember a woman coming over and knocking on the door. her name was shirley. she was a friend of her mother s she said. she said renee, a little girl with her was six. this is renee now. that room is stuck in her memory too. her name was gorgeous. a nice size room for a little kid. she had a canopy bed. she had tons of dresses. toys galore. and you had none of that? no. i was like wow, this is nice. an alien world to renee. the most wonderful thing she d seen. while the little girls played in the living room, shirley was talking and then she called renee. when it was time to leave, i didn t want to go. i said can we stay longer? no, but your new friend is coming with us. i m like okay. so she came and that s how everything started. so it did. it was to be an overnight, the girls were told, a little fun. they d stay with shirley in her age. when lost and found continues. what i got s full stock welcome back to date line extra. a four-year-old girl is kidnapped from her home, taken from the only life she knew by a woman who told her she d be going on a sleepover with a play mate for one night. that one night turned into a terrifying odyssey that wouldn t end for many, many nights to come. here again is keith morrison. the story you ll hear now lives in the vivid so real you could touch them memories of two frightened girls. it began in a down market motel whose l.a. neighborhood was not child friendly. it was to be a one night sleep over with a new friend renee. instead the adult who brought her here, a woman named shirley didn t take her home again. instead she packed belongings, put the girls in her car and hit the road. where did they go? did she threaten that? yeah. many times we d do something wrong and she would say you stop doing that or i m going to send you off to jerry s life. so they lived a life of packing up and fleeing state to state searching for the cheapest place to stay and skip out of. hunger constant. medical care nonexistent. when money ran out, as it often did, shirley drove to the nearest truck stop. the girls would bed down in the car and watch shirley sneak off to do, well, they didn t know. and alone and frightened, they held onto each other and watched the shadows of strange men pass by their car. until the night when terrified and unable to sleep, renee followed shirley. she s taking a long time. and i m getting scared because i m thinking she left or she s died or something. so i go into where they work on the cars, and she s on the side over here, and he s on top of her. and i didn t know what was going on. i got scared, and then she seen me, and she yelled at me and said get out of here. go. at least then they had a bit of money. but always pepper was afraid. afraid to ask for help. afraid to ask why she d been taken. afraid of shirley s threats. she would scare us to believe that we were in a better place. she was doing something good for us. did you ever understand why she wouldn t take you back home? her personality was very up and down. very angry and so if i asked questions, she would say stuff like if you want to find your mom, she s on the streets shooting heroin and a prostitute. tirades were frequent, neglect part of life. verbal and physical abuse a regular occurrence. she would whip us with a belt, slap us, verbally cuss at us. verbally abuse us. and threaten to send you away? right. i just took the belt. because it just if you take it, this is hard to explain, but if you just take it, it she gets out of the rage faster, so to speak. they went to school when they could. made very few friends and lost the ones they did make. struggled to be ordinary kids and then normal teenagers. all i wanted to be is loved. that s it. and i never got any kind of love that i wanted. instead, they were trapped, truck stop no mads in the care of a woman it seemed she had kidnapped both of them. they drifted one dump to another across any number of state lines for years. and then sometime in the early 80s, they settled down here. shirley pulled up to this motel in los angeles county and took a job at the cleaning woman in exchange for a free room. and if it wasn t much, at least it gave them some measure of stability, and they signed up at a local school. junior high for pepper, high school for renee. much to shirley s disapproval. shirley would tell us girls don t go to school. they get married. why do you want to go to school? i didn t like being late to school. i didn t like being absent all the time. so they got themselves up every morning and went to school and kept going. and then pepper was 12, eight of those years with shirley when she saw her chance to escape and seized it. she made herself useful as a babysitter for the couple next time in room 109. and when the family moved out of the motel, pepper went with them. but it didn t last long. pepper s new household caught in its own spiral of alcoholism and dysfunction was as troubled and messy as her own life was. she swallowed her pride and moved back to room 110 colonial motel, even though by then, says pepper, shirley didn t seem to care much what she did. i remember when i was trying to plot my escape before it went into action, i was in my mind going, i m going to show her. she ll care. i remember thinking that. but she didn t care. she didn t come to get me. still, having tasted freedom once, pepper was determined to get away from her kidnapper for good. a second time she took a chance, moved after the family and a second time had to return. and then finally by the time she turned 16, pepper left for good. but that meant she left renee behind too. renee who so needed pepper and was alone now with shirley. she was my best friend growing up. that was my best friend. you know? we did everything together. we fight like sisters. we did everything together. renee was feeling abandoned. i told her don t go. stay here. i need you. you re my sister. so she went. she did her thing, and i was upset, and i was sad. by 1986 and on her own now, pepper had given hope she d ever find her real parents, but she had an immediate problem, the trouble that comes with having no real name, no i.d., no birth certificate. she was under rhonda smith at shirley s urging at school. she had no way to prove her legal name, and without some cooperation from shirley, her search for such documents seemed hopeless. and then how did you find out she was sick? she turned completely yellow when they diagnosed her with pancreatic cancer. with shirley on her death bed, shirley tried to act like a dutiful daughter. tried to make her comfortable, visited her regularly, but there was another important reason to see her, maybe the most important reason. one last opportunity to find out who she was. as she was dying, did you try to find maybe she d make a death bed confession and say i did take you, and here are your parent s names and how to find them. any of that happen? did you ask? oh, yeah, and shirley had a response for the girl she renamed pepper. the question was, what could she do with that answer? coming up, if jesus christ duggar could be found at 18 years, certainly there must be hope for pepper. it triggered a lot of my own personal memories and how come i didn t get found? and i was still missing? but would she be missing much longer? when lost and found continues. i saw the change in rich when we moved into the new house. but having his parents over was enlightening. you don t like my lasagna? no, it s good. -hmm. -oh. huh. 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( ) any 16-year-old wants to be free. i want to go work and be free from all this. i have a plan. i asked her for, i need my birth certifica certificate. and she told me they changed the laws. you can t get your driver s license until you re 18 years old. yeah. and i m supposed to believe this. as i sit in a classroom where i have friend getting permits. of course. she took the lies with her. she was not going to tell. what about the birth certificate? couldn t get anything out of her. the lies stayed with her. shirley knew the answers, of course. knew the whole bizarre story, but she looked pepper in the eye through her obvious pain, and told her nothing. she left the lies behind and took the truth to her grave on july 29th, 1986, at the age of 63. she was buried here, this cemetery in an unmarked grave. renee now 19, got on with life, moved in with her boyfriend. soon pepper showed up at their apartment homeless and nowhere else to turn to. and everywhere pepper went from then on, shirley s poison gift followed because of that woman and what she did, pepper was officially at least a nonperson. so it took a little while for determination to come back. she was in her mid 20s, a single mother by then. if only she could find her birth certificate, that could lead her to her parents. anyway, she needed documents to live. she needed a passport. so she contacted state offices. their departments of vital records with perhaps predictable results. tell me what it feels like when you know you have to go to an official and ask for something that you really, really, really need, and you kind of know you think how it s going to go? i get emotional usually. i usually cry. it was really i would it just brings me to a sad place. you d be sitting across the desk from somebody trying? absolutely. and they couldn t do anything for you? no. you need this document. this is what you need to provide. sorry. i have no way to get this document because i don t know my parent s name. i don t know my real name. pepper. and once again, pepper felt perhaps understandably like giving up. but by then she was living with her daughter in south lake tahoe working as a waitress and what do you know, hometown girl jay see duagaard was found. the community was just buzzing all over the place with joy. and i was happy for her. but it triggered a lot of my own personal memories and how come i didn t get found? and i felt so missing. so once again, charged up with determination, she launched a fresh attempt. turns out there s such a thing as adult adoption. find someone to adopt her and even if she couldn t find her parents, at least she could get an official identity and birth certificate and a passport. a friend offered to adopt her. they applied and waited and something amazing happened. someone in that great california bureaucracy did research. talked to pepper, asked her questions, hauled out records not readily available online. all she could offer for the names bob and bobbie and the date of birth, and somehow buried among the files in the hundreds of millions, a match, and there it was, came in the mail after all these years, a copy of her actual birth certificate. the key to unlock her past, though she had no idea then looking at that birth certificate that the appropriate question should have been this. was this her real past? coming up. a journey ending? i was like whoa. or was it just beginning? when lost and found continues. when heartburn hits, fight back fast with tums smoothies. it starts dissolving the instant it touches your tongue. and neutralizes stomach acid at the source. tum -tum -tum -tum smoothies! only from tums extra. i m gregg melvin. the woman known as pepper finally has a piece of paper in her hand. the paper she s waited for most of her life to find. her birth certificate, but where would that piece of paper lead? here again is keith morrison. a 37 years she d been searching for her parents, her life, her name. just as she d given up ever finding the answer, here it was. a copy of her birth certificate with her real name in black and white. rhonda patricia christy, and there were the names of her parents, too, robert and barbara christy. this is it. i was like whoa. they were my parents. that bobbie and bob. they were my parents. with their names and social security numbers, rhonda and her friends tracked down a phone number in ohio. she dialled the number. a man answered. it was june 5th, 2010. i said are you robert t christy. he said yes. i said are you married to a barbara blackwelder or were you? he said yes. and then i said, i think i m rhonda christy or do you know rhonda patricia christy. and then there was a long pause. this is who she was talking to. his name is bob christy. i almost dropped the phone. she knew i d hesitated, and she said this is your daughter, rhonda. and there was something that clicked in my mind that i the voice rang a bell. and he called to my mom, barbara, to pick up the phone. he said rhonda s on the phone. she picked up the phone and the first words out of her mouth was shirley stole you. the most emotions i think i ve ever had in my entire life, ever. the memories were true, or so it seemed. she got on a plane for ohio. they were all, of course, 37 years older, and in a way, strangers now. but here they were, all the images she d clung to in fantasy, dreamed about for those 37 long years. and there you are in your bath. all those rolls, too. you was a chubby little baby. and happy. and look at you. just learning to walk. and smiling the whole way. you had a good life, honey. i know. so it was happy and sad. comforting. but also deeply strange because sitting on this touch, pepper heard some stunning revelations. such as these were not her birth parents. she had been adopted. and the arrangement was mysterious. and now it was barbara s turn to tell a story. shirley had been her friend, she said, had told her about a woman working in the sex trade who didn t want her babies, and one day she showed up with a baby she called rhonda patricia smith. barbara could see it was a little iffy, but she wanted that baby so badly, and so she said she ignored the red flags. nope. didn t care. didn t really care. she was going to see to it, she said, that rhonda was loved and cared for by the best parents she could ever possibly have. bob and barbara legally adopted their little princess four years later in the fall of 1973. and it was shortly after that, said barbara, when shirley and renee showed up at her door. and the kids played together, and we visited together, and she asked if rhonda could come spend the night with renee, and took me a while to get an answer to that. i really had to think about that hard. i m one of these tender hearted people, and i said i want her to know her sister. sister? why, yes, barbara told rhonda she and renee were half sisters, daughters of the name mother, the woman who worked the streets. barbara said by then she didn t trust shirley with rhonda, but i want rhonda to know her sister. i wanted her to have family and stuff, and i asked bob, and he said no, she couldn t at first, and then he relented, let her go. and next morning we went to get her, and they were gone. and they didn t come back. bob and barbara called the police right away, of course. but here s what they said they were told. the police could do nothing for them since they d allowed rhonda to leave with shirley. they were on their own, so desperate, they said, they started their own search. discovered shirley had taken the girl to a relative s house several states away. when they got there, it was too late. all that remained sitting on the porch were the little red shoes she wore on the day she was kidnapped. it was hopeless. they returned to their childless home. nothing left but the photographs of the little girl who stopped growing up for them at four and now out of the blue, that phone call. and here she was. i m good. it is definitely a gift. we got a daughter and we got a granddaughter. just on time, it turns out. barbara had terminal cancer. she would die a year later. still, back then, they celebrated. renee joined them for rhonda s birthday and the christy s 38th wedding anniversary, an amazing reunion. of course, dateline was happy to broadcast it all around the country on march 25th, 2011,, no idea that something quite unbelievable would happen. because one of the people who tuned in that night was a woman named jerry, and oh, what a story she had to tell. coming up, it was a story two sisters had waited a very long time to hear. 99.99% probability. that s confirmed. when lost and found continues. what i got s full stock of thoughts and dreams that scatter you pull them all together and how, i can t explain oh yeah, well well well youuuu you make my dreams come true well, well, well youuuu topped steak & twisted potatoes at applebee s. now that s eatin good in the neighborhood. welcome back to dateline extra. i m gregg melvin. returning to our story now, here again, keith morrison. when we first told you the story about pepper smith and her lifelong journey to find her family, her identity, it was a friday night in march, 2011. and the following monday morning my office received a call, and then i received an e-mail. attorney gloria alreld found herself looking at a remarkable message. there it was, the ping of a message on her blackberry. when i looked at the e-mail, i just couldn t even believe it. i looked at it about three times. am i really seeing this? it was a woman claiming to be the buy logical mother of both pepper and renee. claiming to be the woman who according to shirley and barra, was a child abandoning prostitute, probably dead. could this woman really be their mother? hardly a claim she could take on simple faith. i asked her to come in to see me the very next day, which she was very anxious and happy to do. i asked her to bring whatever evidence she had. and in that meeting the woman presented her evidence. she brought some photos that she had of pepper and renee when they were very little. she said she was a waitress when the girls were little, but a photo of that. and a picture of shirley and also a photo of a man she said was the girl s father. long since dead. she said her name was jerry. i asked her immediately, jerry, would you be willing to do a dna test? she said i ll take the dna test, but these are my children. i know it. she put the dna test on the fast track and waited. within a week called pepper and renee to her office to hear in person the results of the test. 99.99% probability. that s it. yes. test confirmed. i can t believe this is actually happening. i really can t right now. how soon could they meet jerry and what s she like? how did she know shirley? we arranged a reunion for the next day. jerry arrived first and told us how she saw her long lost girls on our program. i saw the picture of shirley and went crazy. i was hysterical, because i knew that s who she was. and then when i saw the girls, i knew they were mine. after all those years? 27 years. there they are. what did that feel like? it felt great. i had hoped i could find my children before i died because i m getting old and it was like a miracle. jerry s story? shirley to took the girls was her friend turned roommate, turned babysitter. she said i ll babysit for you. you know, i ll take care of her while you work. i said well, that s great, because i really thought i was blessed. first it was renee she looked after, then renee and pepper, and then two years later their little brother raymond leonard smith junior. wait. brother? it wasn t just the two girls. there was a younger brother, the girls never knew they had. the father wasn t around very much. jerry supported them all with what she could make as a waitress, and shirley made a change, a positive one, it seemed financially. she got this job supposedly at the motel managing which was further more, i worked, so i arranged with her to watch the kids while i worked. it was a god send, really, since jerry had to be hospitalized for weeks after raymond was born. and then get back to work and find a new home to take the kids to. i come out there on my days off and stay with the kids and spend some time with them. and so then i called her and told her i was coming to get the kids, and the next day i went out there, and gone. not a sign of them. no kids. no shirley. frantic, she went to the police. what did you tell them? your children had been kidnapped? yep. they took the report and that s the last i heard. i went down there two or three times. they told me the same thing. they hadn t found anything. jerry said she didn t know who else to talk to. she looked on her own and found year after year nothing. had no idea she said that shirley had left pepper with barbara. that barbara persuaded a court that pepper had been abab donned and thus could be adopted or that shirley stole her back again. and then there they were, telling their story on dateline, telling how shirley and barbara had described her. yes, i heard what they said about me. i was not a streetwalker. i was a waitress all my life. they also said you didn t really want your children. you were happy to abandon them? i never abandoned my children, never. ever. i would never, ever do that. and she wasn t a drug addict either, she said. she hasn t had a smooth or easy life, and for much of it she s missed her children and blamed herself for what happened. trusting shirley? yes. and for not having those kids under your wing all the time? that s right. tell me about that? because to me i feel like it was my fault because i put them in the hands of this monster. we re in a hotel room in los angeles. jerry is eager, anxious, terrified. visibly shaking. and then they come around the corner. their first meeting of 27 years. it s been a lifetime we ve missed. oh, my god. i feel like i m dreaming still. i can t get it yet. i can t either. i just want to hug. can i just stare at you for a minute. yes, you can do anything. i don t have a memory. i m sad because i was there with you guys. you re my mom. yes, you re my babies. you re my babies. it s been 37 years. it s sad. and just about here as they cling and cry, something rather magical happens. the center of gravity shifts. what happened? what happened? it s renee who wants the answers now. i want to know what happened. you will know. you will know. i promise you. you were illegally adopted. me? but what happened to me? she was adopted but what happened to me? i thought i would never find you ever. i thought i would never find you either. i searched and i searched and searched. i had no money for an attorney. i didn t know where to go. when i turned dateline on and saw you girls come on, honey. [ sobbing ] it s okay. i thought you didn t care about me. no, i loved you, both of you. i could never not love you. i was so mad at you. i m sure you were. i was so mad at you. i didn t know. i thought you gave me away. no. they spend hours together here talking about their pasts, their likes and dislikes, their amazing similarities. we gave them a few weeks to get to know each other, and sat down again with pepper and renee. so there it is. you have your mother. but what now? will you have a relationship with her? going to move her in with me. move into your house? yes. yes. once she gets all her affairs into in order, we re going to move her in. why? because i want her. my husband wants her too. there. so i want to have a relationship with my mom. like i was telling you earlier, i want to go shopping. i want to have lunch. i want to go buy stuff. i want to have christmas, thanksgiving, her there with me. and pepper? well, for one thing, pepper has adopted her real birth name, the one her parents gave her before it was lost in the abductions and adoption. it s ronique. roniqi smith. i feel very content the way everything has taken place. finding my mom, the identity, my real identity, my biological father. seeing a picture of him. all these exciting things going on. but i think it s not over yet. i don t feel the journey s quite over yet. it s just starting. this part of it is just starting. so it is. because of course one of them is still missing. right. yes. our brother raymond is still missing. we know he s out there somewhere. so he is. but not for long. let out your inner child at the lexus december to remember sales event. experience amazing at your lexus dealer. the instant it touches your tongue. and neutralizes stomach acid at the source. tum -tum -tum -tum smoothies! only from tums jehri gave us a copy of his birth certificate. he d be just about 40 now. and their chances of finding him seemed sfrankly slim. he called 40-year-old ray smiths all over the country. ray smith in colorado, ray smith in maryland, in new jersey, in kansas. but did he go by the name ray smith? and then, a call back. it was the ray smith from colorado. they had the right name, right age, place of birth, had grown up without knowing any blood relatives. all this ray smith knew was his mother s name. according to his birth certificate was jerry. he was starting to sound a lot leek our ray. we asked if he d submit to a dna test. he agreed. and there was no doubt. we d found him. we brought ray and his fiance to a los angeles hotel and showed him the story of his sisters. in a way his story too. i thought that the story itself was sad. it sounded like they had a rough life. and it was really similar to mine. so it was. and it began the sam way, too, when sheryly took him from jehri. except ray was turned over to a woman named anna lee brown, who named him jimmy brown. the only name he knew growing up. she had told me that she had adopted me. but i was also shipped around a lot from home to home because she had a lot of health problems from what i was told. he was neglected and often abused, bounced around for years, until anna brown shipped him off to a colorado couple when he was 14. and that s when he found his birth certificate. started calling himself ray smith, and began puzzling over the apparently unanswerable questions of his life. why did ann name me jim brown if my name was really ray? how come i never knew about jehri? things like that. then i wondered, you know, was i kidnapped? no answers from anna brown, who died soon after that. and as for life in colorado, by the time he was 16 things were getting a little rough. maybe because of my past, i wasn t a real easy kid. so i was put into foster care. and then? he graduated from high school. he got a job, moved in with some friends, and started his own rock band. this youtube video shows him singing lead. leave it alone and for all he s wondered about his past, he d come to believe he d go to his grave without ever meeting a blood relative. until now. wow. they re actually in the same building i m in right now. that s amazing to me. and here they were. oh, my baby. hi, mom. oh. oh, it s been forever. it s great to see you. meeting family for the first time. you guys kind of look like me. after so many years. so this is my first time meeting my blood. it s great. so great. and this is how pepper s desperate search for a warm memory of a lost childhood ended. you look like our dad. you re great. far bigger than she imagined. far better. good to see you. oh, it s good to see you too. the family that was stolen found. it s amazinamazing. it s the best gift ever. they sat here for hours, shared their photos, got to know each other, and made plans.
west palm beach airport, following the president s first physical exam as president. according to his doctor at walter reed, the exam went, quote, exceptionally well and further details on tuesday. before leaving washington for this martin luther king holiday weekend, trump signed a proclamation expanding site, with questions from the president about remarks about haiti, el salvador the day before. and throughout the day, republican lawmakers in florida, including senator marco rubio and congressman carlos ro bechlt. llo strongly distanced themselves from the remarks, all in a state, florida, a home to many immigrants and their families, including 300,000 haitian-americans, most in south florida, some of whom protested the president s comments. and republican governor rick scott also reacted to trump s for so long. do you get the sense that he s sort of distracting from his own policy agenda with the comments he made this week about other countries, whether true or not, with tweets he puts out about everybody from author michael wolff to news anchors? there are definitely republicans in this town who would very much agree with the premise of that question. they see it as constant controversies that do distract, that they have to sort of answer for things on a constant basis because the president has stoked up controversy again. that is a problem for people who are more used to a much more focused, much more deliberative approach from a president. gillian: so, distracting from his own policy agenda, some might go as so far as shooting himself in the foot. take a listen to the sound bite from speaker paul ryan in wisconsin. you re trying to broker a deal, right. yeah, so how do you do that with this? so we just have to get it done. gillian: talking about the president s comments this week on fisa, during the leadup to the vote on the hill, and then also, you know, on the comments he allegedly made during this meeting with lawmakers, using a vulgar term. so, it seems like, even speaker ryan is saying we re forging ahead, we re trying not to let the president, you know, get in our way. it s a little unusual. oh, it s massively unusual, particularly since congress has an absolutely full plate of things it needs to get to. there s a very intense congression congressional agenda. people need to get things done fast. time that you spend on other topics to accomplish those goals. gillian: and you create unnecessary obstacles when you speak out on issues that aren t necessarily appropriate for the president to be commenting on. i want to pull up for you what john mccain had to say earlier this week. he said, people have come to this country from everywhere. and people from everywhere have made everyone great. our immigration policies should reflect that truth and our elected officials, including our president, should respect it. those are some fairly scathing words from a senior lawmaker who has been working on not just immigration, but national security issues for decades. what do you make of that? i think that it is part of a firstly genuine objection to what the president is supposed to have said, but i also think it s a point that many republicans believe the republican party has to be welcoming to an ever more diverse america. and i think that they feel comments like the ones attributed to president trump cut against that in a very serious way. they see it speaking to his base, yes, but his base is a minority of the country. and so, they don t think that that is a winning strategy over the medium or long-term. and i think that they have sincere objections to it as well. gillian: we ve got to not just worry about the base. the president doesn t have to worry only about his base facing in 2018, part of his role and responsibility is to help usher republicans across that goal line. so certainly not helping there, right. absolutely not. one of the interesting things i think in the past couple of days, we re seeing lawmakers from competitive districts really being to the fore criticizing the president. someone like congressman korbela, and pretty scathing. and i think we re seeing those republicans trying to create some distance between themselves and the president on this kind of talk. gillian: well, hopefully they will get to the other side of this. republicans will be able to put it behind them and move forward. niall stannage, thanks for joining us. mike: and statistics in the house nearly $300,000 have been spent quieting harassment and discrimination claims against house members since 2003. hi there, mike. the nearly $300,000 comes straight from taxpayers and was used to settle 13 claims against members. house. that average is out to almost a settle a year. here is a look. 27,000 was paid out between 2003 in 07. then, a big jump between 08 and 2012 with 174,000. then 91,000 from 2013 to last year. we don t know who got the payouts because staffers had to sign a nondisclosure agreement. to start mediation. we know one of the offending congressmen was from texas. his former communications director received 84,000 after she accused him of making inappropriate sexual comments. he announced he s not running for reelection and said he ll pay the money back. earlier, he s waiting to see thank you very much. gillian: president trump now pointing the finger at democrats for what he s calling a missed opportunity on daca and immigration. this after a week of meetings on the issue without any clear results. our own molly heninberg is following the latest on this story. hi, gillian. there s no bill until there s a bill and right now there s no bill at least publicly that can get 60 votes in the senate and get the president s signature. legislators had hoped to include immigration reform and wrap it up in a bill to keep the government funded, but that spending bill has to be done by next friday and it doesn t appear at this point that there s enough agreement to include immigration in that legislation. on daca, which stands for the deferred action for childhood arrivals, which protects some 800,000 illegal minors from deportation, and then the dream act gives them a pathway to legal status. some democrats want just to focus on that for now. the top house democrat nancy pelosi is asking for a daca and dream only piece of legislation now. and in a statement yesterday, she said, quote, in october, the president wrongly decided to terminate daca. since that time. the president has constantly said he supports daca. what is clear is it that we must insist on a clean dream act, which is supported overwhelmingly by the american people, has bipartisan support in congress and must be enacted in january. but that doesn t sit well with republicans who wants border security or those who want to end chain migration. or those who don t want legal status for young, illegal immigrants. some of these people that are negotiating from the other side, aren t there in good faith. i think that they re there trying to make their political point, and they don t really want daca, they want the dream act. that s what they want. they re calling it daca, but they want a path to citizenship, a path to amnesty and that s part of the problem. congressman big says he does not believe that the daca issue would prevent legislators from coming to an agreement to keep them open and funded by next friday. thanks for that reporting, molly. mike. let s bring in michigan congressman dan killdee. do you want a clean daca bill? yes, and i think it s sometimes in a partisan divide where one doesn t exist quite as much as people say it does. republicans in the house, i know, and democrats would like to get a daca deal done, and would vote for it, if it was on the floor. ways a little disappointed to say that the president says this is a missed opportunity. we have sessions on tuesday, wednesday, thursday. we could bring daca codification, a bill to the floor and i suspect it would have more than 300 votes in the house of representatives and would sale through the senate. funding over this daca issue. why don t we negotiate in good faith on the issue, roll up your sleeves and let s work this out, but let s not hold the funding of our military hostage over this issue, that s irresponsible and they need to stop it. mike: congressman, your reaction to her comments and are we headed for a government shutdown? i don t think so. we ll see the. the republicans control the house, the senate and have the white house. the idea that it s the democrats fault who have no power to put anything on the floor that we haven t taken action on these issues, that s playing politics and look, congressman i know has a track record and she s got her point of view, but saying that it s politics is basically playing politics. why don t we just do what congress is supposed to do when members of congress agree, democrats, and republicans on an issue, let s vote on it. to say that s playing politics to me i think is disingenuous. that s governing. mike: wouldn t it wise to separate a controversial issue like immigration and government funding and a budget, it seems all are difficult enough individually for this congress to do. your thoughts, sir? well, i mean, we can separate it. we can put the daca bill on the floor on tuesday. and get it done. and basecle i basically set that aside and don t have to conflate these issues. there s a moment when the budget bills come up. democrats the republicans don t have the vote to keep the government open. when democrats are asked to rescue the republicans from themselves by providing enough votes to keep the government open cause they don t have them themselves, we have to have some of our priorities included in the action that congress takes and not be put in a position where all the things that democrats care about never get decided, never get a vote on the floor. mike: right. but the republicans who can t govern without us are unwilling to acknowledge that. that s just not right. mike: you know, your republican colleagues want more border security so where is the solution on this immigration issue? is it in the bipartisan by camerale talks that speaker rhein has been talking about? do you think those bipartisan house are the key? this is obviously an issue where we need a comprehensive approach. we need border security, no question about it. we need to fix this broken immigration system and there are areas of agreement. i was really disappointed that the president didn t hold to his word when he had the bipartisan meeting just a few days ago, and then was presented a bipartisan solution to this problem after saying that he would accept whatever these folks put together and sign it, and he said no. so, i don t know who s whispering in his ear, but that was disappointing. we can solve these problems and we have to do it in a comprehensive way. democrats have to acknowledge that border security is an important subject, but we also have to have fixing to these other problems and not create a pejorative out of family migration. i mean, this issue of chain migration is one that i think is getting a bit misunderstood. family immigration is a part of the history of this country. my own hometown thanks for your time. dan kildee from the great state of michigan. see you soon, sir. thank you very much. mike: we ll have more coverage. chris wallace as an exclusive interview with california attorney general, and what s next. and president trump s immigration comments and steve bannon s ouster from breitbart tomorrow at 11 a.m. eastern. gillian: it came from outer space. what the spacex cargo vehicle just brought down from to earth from the international space station. a tough message from kim jong-un to the white house, as the south korea olympics slated for next month. and watching the thermostats plunge, more problems on the roads and airports. and adam is monitoring from the fox extreme weather center. i know when we see you we re getting bad news, go for it. unfortunately, we re looking into a system going into the northeast, on the back side cold air is funneling in. i ll have details after the break. i take pictures of sunrises, freezing rain causing major slowdowns on roads, and meanwhile, the folks in buffalo, new york, were dealing with melting snow and flooding problems because of warmer temperatures. meteorologist adam is at the extreme weather center with all of today s forecasts. take it away. yeah, kind of a wild day yesterday. a real rollercoaster giving me a bit of a cold. and we re tracking a system off the northeast. one you re talking about. it s running off the east coast and the back side of this system we re looking at a major change in temperatures falling down into the teens in many cases. add in the wind chill and you ll notice a huge difference falling back down into the negative across a huge portion of the country. and it s still too early, winter is not over yet. it was 60 in new york city yesterday. unfortunately, that isn t going to be sticking around. now, as we go farther into the forecast, this is from saturday into sunday. these are daytime highs across the country. and not horribly bad, but pay attention to what happens on monday. suddenly, another round of arctic air is going to be settling into the center of the country. you re looking at temperatures falling back into the negative. and that goes even deeper into the country. so we re talking about another huge arctic blast that s going to be pushing in, getting into the middle of next week. it s not just coming with the cold temperatures, it s going to be coming with eventually a system that s going to be working through. and here is your future radar, this is sunday into monday. right there, is where that system is, unfortunately, it s going to be coming with ice, it s going to be coming with snow, as much as i would love it to warm up, unfortunately, that s just not going to be the case. this is something we re dealing with, another big round just around the corner, guys. well, adam, you stay there. hang tight. no need to come here to our nation s capital. thank you. mike: i got home last night 60-something degrees and got up this morning, 30-something degrees. all of us have a little frog in our throat. gillian: thanks, adam. you re the best. mike: authorities say the same russian hackers who targeted the dnc are back. who they re probing for information now. the clock is ticking for lawmakers to reach a deal on daca and immigration. how their lack of progress is resonating with voters. the immigration debate in washington? unfortunately sigh sidelined with this ridiculous controversy as they re calling it. it s a sad day when this president who clearly trusts, i m not sure why, but he still trusts the principle parties in the room to speak candidly. he s coming from an environment, used to the oars rowing in the same boat and he s not used to those to sand bag him. whether he said these things and it s clear about seizing power and not achieving goals. mike: we re less than a week from a possible government shutdown. what do folks outside of the beltway think about that? i think it s clear if we re going to hold up military spending or call this a government shutdown, if you want broadly, if we re really holding it up to secure the border, i don t know that that s the plank the democrats want to walk. i get that i ve yet to hear anybody why border security the is something we re against. if the president used rough language in a private meeting with lawmakers, does your audience care? no, for heaven s sake. you know, i said last night on twitter, mike, i was ever since 18 years old since you ve been voting in this country the american left has been telling people stay out of our bedrooms, butt out. sop stop with the social issues frpt the second in private he supposedly allegedly says one curse word and suddenly the left takes to the billy graham crusades, where did that come from. mike: what about the comment made by house leader nancy pelosi, talking about people with an immigration deal. five white guys i call them. you hope a hamburger stand next or what? so the five guys joke seemed to fall flat in the room. your thoughts, chris? that s just that s the perfect example, mike of what we re talking about. if you want to talk about race, you know, trump says, s-hole countries and that s a racist term suddenly and she specifically says five white guys. she invokes race. if ever there was racism on display in an off the cuff remark, it s miss pelosi, not the president. mike: and the assumption here, chris, is that late next week congress will punt again, meaning a short measure. how do that play outside the beltway. that s grist for the mill. i think most of us expect that s probably what will happen. folks that listen to this show and i speak for myself, what nobody wants is to colina daca bill business. where ever you are on daca, i don t know any conservatives or republicans that would suggest only daca, no wall, no border security, no dealing with chain migration. that would be a terrible mistake. so, i d rather wait and prolong it then rush to do something that we ll never go back and fix again. mike: a few seconds left. do you have a prediction in 2018, a lot of anxiety with a lot of republicans at 2018. your thoughts, chris? historically, if you want to look at history. we can t seem to these guys as a predictor, maybe republicans lose the house, perhaps. i think that republicans could pick up the senate. i know they won t lose the senate. i bank on them keeping control. senate, but they may gain republicans in the senate. mike: after this, chris is headed to atlantic city to place some bets. go eagles! . mike: chris, thanks. thanks, mike. gillian: the u.s. senate in the cross-hairs of the same russian computer criminal hackers that caused problems for the dnc last year during the general election. chief political correspondent catherine herridge talks about it. and at the height of 2016 election, with wikileaks and the same hackers are now targeting the u.s. senate. according to new research, hackers are going after lawmakers network of context, as well as compromising information for blackmail. these cyber hackers, speak russian, and going to trap visitors with malware. and they set up fake accounts and fancy bear hackers used the strategy during the french presidential election to steal e-mails in an efforts to influence the outcome. the u.s. intelligence community believes the hackers are closely aligned with president vladimir putin and they documented the decades long effort to undermine democracy. the administration is not doing enough to punish russia in the 2016 elections and prepare us for the 2018 election. the fancy bear hackers went quiet. but with no solutions on penalizing moscow, the hackers got busy. they predict that rogue political complaints are not likely to go away with the olympics and major operations in 2018. in washington. catherine herridge, fox news. gillian: be sure to keep it right here with us at america s news headquarters. at the top of the next hour, 1 p.m., discussing the latest developments in the russia probe with florida congressman ron desantis. mike: searching for missing crew members on an iranian oil tanker are facing fiery conditions. why it s still in flames after colliding with another ship. president trump now says he thinks he has had a good relationship with north korea s kim jong-un, but the u.s. isn t letting up its stance against the hermit kingdom ahead of the olympics. what to expect as we get closer to the opening ceremonies. boost gives me everything i need. to be up for doing what i love. boost high protein be up for it ship s last box. and 29 missing at this hour and the exact cause of that crash is unknown. south korean president moon says the trump administration s tough stance on kim jong-un drove north korea to reopen diplomatic lines, but the trump administration is not softening their stance on the hermit kingdom ahead of the olympics. vice-president mike pence is leading the u.s. delegation in south korea. for this, i want to bring in jack keane, strategy analyst, general, the administration was sort of playing coy when it comes to the u.s. relationship with kim jong-un. the president i wants folks at home to take a look. the president said he probably has a very good relationship about kim jong-un. he said that you people, media he was talking to at the time, are surprised and went on to say when asked when he spoke to kim jong-un. i m not saying i have or i haven t, i don t want to comment. what do you make of that. it s hard to characterize the president s relationship from a distance, but i m not aware of contact, but that s clearly up to him. he surely does talk to world leaders on a regular basis. gillian: why not just say no? looking at it from the outside, i think this is probably the most challenging and difficult relationship that he s got with everybody in the world. clearly, we re on a path here where a military option is on table. there are some negotiations that have taken place, it s talking and chewing at each other, but we ve got to have a healthy dose of skepticism here because the north koreans have always used negotiations to advance their technology program and they ve used it in the past to obtain goodwill which is obviously going on here, and also, when it s with the south koreans to try to drive a wedge between ourselves ap the south koreans. so we ve got to look at realistically. could something better come of it? we hope so, but that s the way we ve got to look at it. gillian: that s the bilateral relationship side. from the military side do you feel there were mixed messages, also. president trump agreed to not go forward with the joint military exercises with south korea until after the olympics. at the same time the department of defense flying b-2 bombers over the region. i think we should be doing more on the military side to strengthen the policy change that we made dealing with north korea and that is that the military option is back on the table. that was general mattis, now secretary mattis that made that statement on the first visit to the far east shortly after the inauguration back in january of last year. but here is some things i know the chinese and the north koreans are looking at to determine, is our policy real? why are we still sending families to south korea with their military spouses? this should now be what we call in the military an unaccompanied tour. like iraq and afghanistan is. we should also be preparing to bring the families that are there home, making the policy changes that are going to be able to accommodate a move with such a sizable population, we should be making plans to bring the american population at home. gillian: who makes that decision, general? is it state department? is it dod? in dealing with the military families dod, and the other thing, gillian, if we re going to go to war, there s a possibility we are, director pompeo of the cia said we re months away from the showdown. if that s the case, as we were in iraq and afghanistan, we re an ocean away, which means we have to prepare, theater level logistics, we have to put in place ammunition and we actually have to start moving some forces that are going to be able to accommodate the reality of that. i also believe while some people would look at that and say those are provocative act, you re going to force north korea to action. i would say rubbish to that. and the provocative act is nuclearizing icbm s and pointing them at america. and those are proven measures that any military force would have to do if they have a credible policy of wanting this to use a military option. and i m not suggesting all-out war, but a military option, a very limited military option which obviously could escalate to war. gillian: how worried are you about, forget who is more provocative than who, rights? but how worried are you about a move from the trump administration that they necessarily they don t necessarily believe is a direct threat, but ends up being a miscalculation that pushes us offense the edge, sort of unintentionally into war? are you worried about that or not really? you have to calculate that and with every option that you put in front of the president, you have to layout what the risks are associated with those options and we have capable people, you know, who know how to do that and certainly, kim jong-un, once he makes the decision to react to some $what he believes is a provocation by the united states and starts a shooting war on a peninsula, that s the end of his regime. that s and he knows that, and all the people around him know that. we would crush that regime in a matter of days and he knows it. gillian: the worry is that we, the united states worries then about the south koreans to a degree that kim jong-un probably doesn t, right. he doesn t worry about the south koreans. he s just using the south koreans as a vehicle to put some pressure on the united states by driving a wedge between us and the south koreans. gillian: well, some scary stuff, general keane. thanks for your expertise today. we love having you. good talking to you, gillian. gillian: thanks. mike: after the break, a frightening ride for passengers on a greyhound bus that ended in a chase across state lines. we ll take a look at what happens. and a chaotic scene in an international terminal causing scores of delays and very unhappy passengers. what officials are doing to address this storm-related travel mess. what happened over the weekend was completely unacceptable performance. we will assure that the failures that occurred over this weekend will not occur in the future. managing blood sugar is aseries. and when you replace one meal. .or snack a day with glucerna. .made with carbsteady. .to help minimize blood sugar spikes. .you can really feel it. now with 30% less carbs and sugars. glucerna. no one burns on heartburn. my watch! try alka seltzer ultra strength heartburn relief chews. with more acid-fighting power than tums chewy bites. mmmmm.amazing. i have heartburn. ultra strength from alka seltzer. enjoy the relief. 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no, kansas has one governor brownback and he makes the decisions. and colorakoh collier is waie wings as he s expecting a quick confirmation, brownback began handing over duties to colyer. that was six months ago. i teach about politics, one they think i teach you don t count on the u.s. senate to do anything until it s done, especially confirmation. the senate ended without a vote on brownback or dozens of other trump nominations and now there is confusion in kansas. lt. governor jeff colyer was making appointments and events and governor brownback was doing a tree lighting event or the question is who is in charge. it s like abbott and coste o costello, who is on first. and for appointees didn t make confirmations, thank you, potus, i ll continue as governor. s for the positions requiring it, only 241 nominations have been confirmed by the full u.s. senate. while he waits on washington, brownback appears to be retaking the reins in kansas. the question remains for how long. could he be gone in february, june, later than that? who knows. a spokeswoman tells fox news, the renominations could be considered in a timely fashion and they will not require another hearing, but they will need another committee vote before once again heading to the full senate. in topeka kansas, alicia acunas, fox news. gillian: much more ahead in the next hour. president trump says democrats are to blame forestalled immigration reform. why, he says, bipartisan meetings are not working. and from the front lines to the top brass, we ll give you a sneak preview of a brand new series that looks at how the military makes the most important decisions of the day. stick with us. . . everything we do will have an effect. . . plus growing criticism of robert mueller s russia investigation and calls for better transparency, we will talk to republican congressman desantis that sits on foreign affairs and judiciary committee. we get unprecedented look at our military s fight against isis courtesy of brand new geographic special. we want to fight and we want to take care of business here. i know personally i don t want our nation, in fact, any of our allied nations to have to deal with this enemy. so we have to go get after them here today and take care of business. and president trump kicks off the long weekend in mar-a-lago with an early morning tweet storm suggesting that lawmakers are far from reaching a deal on daca and accusing democrats of stalling those negotiations. for more on all of this, let s go live to phil keaton in west palm beach. what can you tell us? president trump should be wrapping up his morning golf game at nearby trump international golf club where he arrived this morning in the big long motorcade around 9:30 this morning. as usual scenario in palm beach, he begins the morning bright and early tweeting this morning he was praising the economy and digging at democrats including this one about ongoing daca negotiations, what to do with the estimated 700,000 dreamers in the country. quote, the democrats are all talk, no action, they are doing nothing to fix daca, great opportunity missed, too bad. of course, it was the oval office meeting thursday about daca and immigration which led to the all consuming controversy about what members of both parties confirmed the president said about haiti, el salvador and african nations. leading to these questions after trump s proclamation expanding the martin luther king, jr. historic site friday. mr. president, are you racist? florida senator rubio and curbello strongly distanced themselves from the president s remarks including 3,000 haitian americans some who protested the comments yesterday while commemorating eighth anniversary of the country s devastating earthquake. on david lederman netflix show, guest, none other than former president obama. one of the things that michelle figured out in some ways faster than i did was, you know, part of your ability to lead the country doesn t have to do with legislation, it doesn t have to do with regulations, it has to do with shaping attitude, shaping culture, increasing awareness. as soon as the president is finished at the golf club, he is expected to then motorcade back to his winter white house at mar-a-lago on palm beach, only about 8 or 10-minute drive and the president has no public events scheduled not only today tomorrow or monday and it is monday afternoon we expect that the president and first lady melania and son baron will be boarding on air force one and returning to the nation s capital. jillian. phil, i had to take a double take at david letterman, i barely recognized him. i need to grow one. [laughter] stay cool at mar-a-lago, thanks, phil. president trump has tied daca and immigration to the budget debate and with just days before lawmakers are faced with another potential government shutdown, the clock is ticking for a solution. latest developments. hi, molly. it s no simple task. democrats are saying, let s just focus on young illegal minors first and then get to the rest. but republicans say, not so fast. they want border security too and say they ve been promised funding for a border wall before and then the funding didn t come through. i m so mistrustful i think that we keep our promise first and then not give up our leverage until until we built that wall. but democrats say why wait, they believe they have enough bipartisan support to extend what s called da to daca to protect from deportation and also pass the dream act that gives them path to legal status. it would takes 4 minutes and we might as well get it done in signal to the american people when we have bigger issues like budget issues, infrastructure bill, like real problems in health care that we ought to address, that congress actually can come together and overcome what looks like differences. legislators had hope today include immigration reform to the bill to keep funding of the federal government but that spending bill has to be done by next friday and it doesn t appear at this point that there s enough agreement to include immigration in that legislation. mike. live in washington, molly, thanks a lot. more on the battle over budget and immigration, i want to bring in scott wong, senior reporter at the hill. thanks for being with us. thanks for having me. take a look at facts on immigration. this is the immigrant population in the united states by country of birth in 2016. it s the latest numbers we ve got, total immigration from africa at 2.14 million, el salvador as you can see there is 1.3 million, haiti, just over half a million at 668,000 and norway at 22,000. so allegedly these are the types of figures that the president was react to go earlier this week in the meeting with lawmakers where he used expletive reportedly. the numbers don t look very high to me. well, a number of republicans pointed out that, you know, we all have immigrant backgrounds in our ancestry and so that was the point i believe that lindsey graham made to the president in pushing back to some of the remarks, one of the most personal, i think, responses to the president s controversial comments came from mia love, the first haitian american republican lawmaker to serve in the united states congress, her parents were born in haiti and came to the united states looking for a better future for their family and so i think, you know, some of the backlash that we have seen in response to president trump s is not only coming from the left but republicans as well. if you break down the numbers a little bit, i was just struck whether the reporting about the expletive is right or wrong, the numbers like, for example, african immigration today in the united states total is 2 million people, but that s almost 60 countries, i thought it would be a lot higher, i was remarking that, you know, this is not this is not an all-time high of immigration as we are being made to believe. i want to ask you also about the president wanting to get rid of the diversity lottery system for visas. he believes this will help put an end to what the administration calls chain migration. he says that what he wants is merit-based immigration, as you know, that essentially means people meet certain qualifications before they are able to come into the country. can you tell us about those qualifications, what they are? i don t have any specifics on the qualifications themselves but president trump did when lindsey graham and dick durbin brought this plan, bipartisan plan, you know, essentially it would shift, it would do away with the diversity lottery which is a random lottery program and it would shift some of those 50,000 slots over to the tps program which is the countries like haiti, el salvador. temporary protective status, and the president said, well, let s not deal with those countries, why can t we make this all about merit and, remember, these were comments that he made two days earlier in the televised meeting in the white house who said who would disagree with bringing in people based on on a merit system and so this is something that the president has insisted on. he has suggested this to congress. so far, democrats have not signed on board. they are pushing back against the merit-base system and they want other assurances for daca at this point. so the administration as far as i can tell has not really clearly defined what those merits are. they ve alluded to the idea that people should speak english prior to coming into the united states, that s one qualification, another qualification is that they should be prepared to in some way contribute to the national economy, am i missing anything? i don t think we have seen specifics so far. i think what the president is talking about are professionals like doctors, for example, doctors from other countries coming to the united states, graduate students who want to further their education and take advantage of the good colleges in the united states. those are examples of the types of people that president trump is saying let s make this all about merit, let s take the best and brightest from around the world and let them come to the country rather than ran do random lottery drawing. how do those qualifications compare to refugee population? the united states agreeing to take people who are fleeing prosecution, war, terror around the world, are we going to keep refugees in separate categories or they ll get bundled into the immigrant populations, the merit-based folks? i think that s what s being discussed. if you do away completely with the lottery system, the plan, the bipartisan plan that lindsey graham and dick durbin put forward would have shifted 50,000 slots over to countries that are dealing with either manmade disasters, civil war, strife or natural disasters like we saw in el salvador and in haiti. these are there s a lot of questions that still have not been resolved. the president s comments, controversial remarks have only sort of inflamed the situation. i think democrats and republicans have been driven into the respective corners. that s not a great place to be with four legislative days before a government shutdown. yeah, as you point out, a lot of loose ends, a lot of major questions here that will affect all americans that need to be hammered out on the hill, in the white house in the next four days, thanks so much for being with us. thank you. mike. third high profile republican has thrown her name into arizona seat, martha mcsally officially announced candidacy friday. former air force colonel and first female fighter pilot took a world war ii fighter plane to campaign tieing her service record into how she ll work in the senate. i m running my race and we want to make sure that people in arizona know options and i m working with the president. you look at my voting record, even though i m in split district, i have to most reliable record with the president and i continue to vote with him. i was at the white house this week and i ve been invited other times to talk about health care, tax reform, infrastructure and now immigration and i m honored about that. mcsally faces competition for the republican nomination, former arizona sheriff joe arpaio and former senator, state senator kelly ward. that should be a heck of the race for the republican nomination. you know, i have to say, a woman fighter pilot throwing her hat in the ring, not a day too soon, this is the kind of thing that americans all across the country have been calling for. jeff flake is retiring so they are throwing their hat in there. yeah, feeling good about that. brand-new details emerging on the las vegas mass shooter from last year and just how meticulous he was in covering up his trail leading up to that deadly massacre? 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well, we have the ability in our house rules to declassify, classify documents that are in the possession of committee and we had major breakthrough with doj and fbi finally agreed to provide the information regarding the trump dossier, the fisa surveillance, all those questions that we ve had for months and i think all the members of congress will eventually be read into that and even people not on the intelligence committee will be able to review it and i think that s good, but to me that s inadequate. i think the american people need to know how this information was used, did you have one administration spying on the campaign of an opposing party and i have report that is the dossier was, in fact, use today get fisa surveillance on a trump associate and one of the questions i have is, did the fbi when they got the dossier, did they know that that was a democratic-party funded document and still went ahead and used it, that s bad. but if they didn t know the genesis of it, the origin of it and still used it, that s also bad. so i think there s a lot of questions that need to be answered and the best way to do it is cut through the smoke and des classify and make it public. we have a public of january 9th letter here, have you gotten any response from speaker and his team so far? so i talked to the speaker last week about getting in all the members of congress read into this. he was very open to that. i think the speaker has done a good job on this. he has backed devin nunes, he told rosenstein you have to produce the stuff. i think the speaker will be open to this and i talked to chairman nunes and he s definitely trying to move forward with invoke declassification order from his committee which is great. there are great patriotic professional with n the fbi but what are your concerns about the role of some at the fbi as it relates to the house intelligence committee investigation? well, you re right, we have phenomenal fbi agents serving all over the country and all over the world, my fear with all of this is the bad actions of a few people like peter strzok who said we can t take risk of trump presidency and lisa page, that their political actions and the way they conducted themselves will make the bureau look bad. i still have confidence in the fbi at large but i think there s been a problem with the leadership going back to the hillary e-mail investigation and then through this trump so-called russia collusion investigation that is going to need to be addressed. we have seen it be addressed so far to a certain extent. comey has been fired. mccabe is on the way out, peter strzok in administrative position, so let s just get all the facts, let s hold people accountable and let s move forward. we need a strong fbi and i m 100% in favor of a strong law enforcement. this is not the first rodeo, do you expect the documents will be declassified, congressman? i think there s a very good chance that they will be, yes, because the public interest is in intense in this and you declassify in a way that if there is some type of source and method you can protect that but still get the information out to the people. there were high-profile issues at the irs several years ago, should anyone be surprised that some at the fbi may have played politics? well, i think that s a good point, l oh, lerner was not not appointed by the obama administration. the outer veneer they may not be, they can often act in partisan ways, lerner did that to the hill and peter strzok and lisa page text messages, they had bias against donald j. trump, they did not want him to be president and we wanted to make sure there was an insurance policy to prevent it. congressman, are you getting all the answers you want on the steel dossier and the information at this stage? well, we haven t gotten them all yet but i think the fact that this information will be provided to the congress is a huge step forward, it s a big victory for us. we are going to get all the answers one way or another, i wish we would have gotten them sooner but over the next probably two months between this and then the ig report with the hillary e-mail investigation, i think you re going to see a lot of scrutiny on how the obama doj handled these cases in 2016. congressman ron desantis of the great state of florida, i look forward to seeing you on the hill, sir. thank you. thanks for your time. gillian: after heated election virginia now has its now governor, democrat ralph northum who defeated ed gillespie was sworn in today at noon in richmond, he addressed a crowd of about 4,000 spectators who braved very cold weather to watch. northum called for unity amongst all virginians. it can be hard to find a way in a time that there s so much shouting, when nasty shallow tweets take the place of honest debate, if you felt that way, i want you listen to me right now, we are bigger than this. so help me god. [cheers and applause] northum, 73rd governor in the state s history. after holding bipartisan meetings on immigration and daca earlier in the week, president trump is now slamming democrats over what he s called a missed opportunity. the president took to twitter this morning saying, democrats are, quote, all talk and no action. for more on the immigration debate let s bring in fair and balance panel brad blakeman, former deputy assistant to president george w. bush and al, member of clinton finance team, former member of the clinton finance team, easy for me to say. gentlemen, thanks for your time. great to be here. brad, let s start with you, your thoughts on president lashing out on democrats in twitter? i think he s dudley right. democrats did not come in the bipartisan meeting with any intention in dealing in good faith. how do we know that, dick durbin outraged over what the president may have said at the meeting. and when he left the white house, he didn t go to sticks, in front of the press corp and show his outrage, this was calculated that they will policy, want government shutdown, they don t want a deal on immigration, they think they with get away with blaming the trump administration, the president went to deal in good faith, he said it during the meeting we saw a week ago, he said it it was a bipartisan commit yes we saw a few days ago and democrats have taken attack that he couldn t be dealt with, they choose to attack him. that s the best spin i have ever heard. the president engaged engaged il vitriol. when ronald reagan left she talked about shining city in the hill, he talked about a place that had doors that were open in anyone in world. and dick durbin and all democrats did come in good faith and the president should be commended for that meeting and that was a bipartisan, great discussion, he unraveled the whole thing with what he said. my guess is plenty of presidents from both parties have used colorful language at times behind closed doors, brad, are you surprised the president did it in bipartisan meeting which it was the other night? no, there are some words and, of course, the president he said denies the word alleged, let me tell you something, in negotiation, specially with legislators things are going to be said that are never intended to public con summing. it s the heat of the moment. there s also context to what was said. what happened before the harsh word that the president used. he agreed he used harsh words and didn t agree he used those words. and the democrats, i guess they never listened to lbj tapes where he used not only foul language but racial language against black americans, so when dick durbin said language has never been used in the oval office, then he should be listening to the lbj tapes and lbj, what was he able to do, he passed civil rights legislation and the president wanted to deal in good faith, the democrats, they renigged on that. look, no one is denying that he said it other than one man, the president who has a history of saying things that are a little untrue. what we have here is a situation, it s so sad because this is a look right into his dark soul, these are chilling and disparaging comments. you do so to emerge from tough situation. we should want people with fortitude and wherewithal to come here. we are heading into, perhaps, potential government shutdown in less than a week, he needs to get democrats that vote for some things, to get some things across the finish line, what about the timing and what about the week ahead. i still think we are going to get through. i don t believe they ll be a shut down. i hope you re correct. i hope that there isn t a shutdown. we shouldn t be politicizing the the economy and the health of the american workers and that s federal workers and private workers that will be affected by government shutdown. we shouldn t be doing that. we shouldn t be holding people hostage and i do believe daca, if democrats want to work in good faith there s still opportunity to do it. he s probably the most transactional president. what about the democrats who try today link daca to some of the funding talks, feeling they have leverage because democratic votes will be needed to get things across finish line, how does that play out, does this get separated, we tried on daca, let s do it in march, where are we going there? there s still not much time but i m hopeful that they ll be bipartisan deal that includes border security and daca protections. a bunch of senators came with proposal that included that, there s a chance. again, the comments make it tougher because that riles up the base for good reason. nobody would have ever known about those comments had the democrats not rushed out in a coordinated effort. fascinating discussion, gentlemen, thanks for your time. good to be with you. gillian: it s often hard for civilians to understand exactly what the members of our military are up against when fighting isis and 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moment for citizens in hawaii as ballistic missile alert get sent to citizens accidentally, the screen grab was sent out by congressman and she reiterated that the alert was a false alarm. people in hawaii received this morning stating a ballistic missile inbound but authorities said alert was sent out by mistake. that is confirmed at this moment the lingering effects of extreme winter weather at the start of january has created quite a mess for jfk airport with damaged equipment and dozens of delayed flights, not to mention scores of unhappy customers and jfk in new york not the only airport seeing headaches, bryan llenas joins with the latest. hey, mike, chaos in americas airports, one air traffic controller, what he called a, quote, horror show, jfk airport at new york city. dozens and dozens of planes sat on the tarmac for hours filled with passengers, thousands of bags were delayed or never made it to destinations, people slept at the airport for a couple days and then a water main broke flooding the international terminal. so weeks before that, the world s busiest airport hartsfield in atlanta lost power canceling flights and recent airport fiascoes are underscored infrastructure concerns at our nation s airports, so the american society of civil engineers recently gave our nation s airports a d grade, airport congestion is on the rise, asce is expected that 24 of the top 30 major airports in this country may soon experience thanksgiving peak traffic volume at least one day every week. you look at the graphic, last month the nation s airports released reports saying they require $100 billion in infrastructure needs between now and 2021 because of this congestion. that price tag has gone up 32% in just two years. airports want congress to eliminate caps on passenger facility charges, they want the faa to allow them to charge more than the max 4.50 per passenger so they can invest money in infrastructure. meanwhile there are efforts to modernize air traffic control systems, the president wants to privatize stripping responsibility from the federal aviation administration and given the responsibility to independent nongovernmental administration. they believe will speed up nationwide and faa is handling the next gen program, updating 1950 s era radar systems to satellite radar technology which would lead to less delays and more efficient performance and hope to be done by 2025. currently there s congressional group called the problem solver s caucus, they are trying to draft the trillion dollar infrastructure deal, we will see what happens. bryan llenas on travel drama and elsewhere, bryan, many thanks. of course. gillian: now from the halls of the pentagon to front lines in afghanistan, iraq and south america, new documentary gives you, viewers a front row seat to battle against extremism. the number one priority for us is to protect the homeland and the american people from an attack and also to protect allies from attack against violent extremists. the most important things is to surround yourself with good people and take advantage of the talent that we have in the u.s. military. gillian: filmed over the course of 18 months, the series with never before seen images from the front line of war. scott is the executive producer of chain of command, the series, premiers monday and he joins me now live, scott, this is just incredible project and excited to have you with us to tell us a little bit more about it. i want to ask you first a question about timing, essentially why now, you know, the wars in iraq and afghanistan have been raging for 16 plus areas, what made you and then the pentagon decide that this this story needed to be told today? it s a very important story that we are telling. ithas been years in discussion between national geographic and national geographic studios and with the department of defense. you know, as you had mentioned earlier, we started feeling about about a year and a half ago and we started very slowly and when you do this type of show, it s it s all built on trust because we are allowed into privileged worlds that have never been, you know, they never had cameras allowed before and we wanted to do it through the eyes of men and women who are most involved in the fight against extremism. you talk about footage, things that have never been allowed, access that has never been given before, one of those as i understand it, we have never gotten to see live footage from inside an f-22 before, is that right, and we see that in the series? that s correct, combat mission, that s exactly right and so these are the worlds in which which through discussion and through, you know, obviously these are sensitive worlds and these environments that we are in are extremely fluid at times but a chain of command is really a collection of soldier stories. it is about the men and women who serve. it s told through their eyes, you get a greater depth of the larger stories, the larger story, you get a greater depth of their mission but you understand their sacrifice, you understand the commitment and, you know, as we go into these worlds, what we describe you re in the room and the way we define a room you could be in the drone room just on the outskirts of mosul or in the cockpit or you can be with a father and a mother who are saying good-bye to, you know, their three kids under 5 as they are about to deploy to afghanistan. now, there have been many, many documentaries on the great men and women who serve in these environments gillian: but i don t think, scott, not one that we know of where you really get inside the minds of service members and their families and get to see life sort of through their eyes from their perspective. i wanted to ask you particularly about one thing that really struck me when i was reading about the project, the strategic plans that are hatched by top military brass at the pentagon have the sort of real, very real effects for service members and affected trajectory of entire lives, service members on the ground and one of the things you really wanted to do here was sort of connect the dots so that folks understood that, do you feel like you got any answers? you know, it was it s playing out over, you know, a section of time where we started, for example, with the battle of mosul. we were there at the beginning, right when they kicked off and we were there towards the end and that plays out in the first four episodes. so through the men and women on both u.s. side and also with the iraqi forces, you understand their mission, you understand the complexity of that environment. you see, like you said, in the drone rooms in several occasions and you understand how difficult it is and you get greater depth of the fight for mosul. gillian: i m sorry to interrupt you, we have to leave it there, we are out of time, everybody stay tune, look for the series premiering on monday on net geo, scott, thank you for bringing the story to us. thank you. gillian: mike. mike: back to fox news alert now, more details on the frightening moment for citizens in hawaii when a ballistic missile alert was sent to citizens by mistake. democratic congresswoman tried to reassure hawaii residents on twitter and reiterated that the alert is a false alarm. people in hawaii received this warning just after 8:00 o clock in the morning stating that a ballistic missile was inbound but authorities have said alert was sent out by mistake. for more let s bring in lucas thompson, pentagon producer, lucas, i know you talked to folks at pacific command, what are they saying? mike, they are saying this was a false alarm, a message being pushed out by hawaii s emergency management system, there s no word right now on why this message was sent out, it was simply somebody hitting the wrong key or was this a possible hack of the system which has been a strong concern for a lot of people involved. you know, the biggest problem is, who wants to wake up in the island of hawaii to this kind of message when you have a pga tournament, country club, millions of people living their lives on saturday morning wake up and the first thing they see on phone checking text messages is take cover, seek shelter a ballistic missile is inbound. it has been put in place recently because of north korea testing successfully intercontinental missiles last year. of course, folks in hawaii have been on edge with the north korean regime and have been practicing what what happens if there s an emergency situation. we have video we can show folks at home exactly what they ve been doing in hawaii to prepare. [sirens] and that was the sound people have not heard since world war ii. mike: excellent, point, lucas, imagine waking up to that on saturday morning in picturesque hawaii and thinking there s incoming missile from investigator korean regime and must be alarming and people might be quite rattled. we don t know the cause. right now there s no cause in why the message was sent out inadvertently. mike: quite alarming situation, thank god it was a false alarm. lucas thompson, thank you for reporting. credits for congresswoman telling everybody not to panic. mike: no doubt about it. thank you, lucas. gillian: kudos for the congresswoman for getting that info and getting out to constituents. i can t imagine bone-chilling out on saturday, living your life with your family and you hear, you know, the sounds of those alarms are very, very eerie. mike: absolutely. reminds nuclear alerts of when you were growing pup. gillian: of course. and you have no sense of what the danger really is, you know, the folks on the ground hearing this for the first time didn t know that it was potentially a missile or something else. you imagine that, you know, doom and gloom is a few seconds out. it must be terrible. mike: it took a while to find out whether this was legit or this was a false alarm, she sent the tweet out and hopefully a lot of folks in hawaii got the information promptly and were able to calm down pretty quickly. but just stunning when you consider the world we live in these days, the north koreans doing all kinds of test in the fear that perhaps it s not going to be a test or false alarm. we are hearing that there was 35 minutes, mike, between the alarm and then the all-clear, the mistake being declared. so that s an awful long time for folks on the ground to be left wondering and maybe panicking about what has happened. 35 minutes. mike: yeah. gillian: unbelievable. mike: you can imagine the panic at 8:00 o clock in the morning, what, we are under attack, we have to run, load up the family, where do we go? is it nuclear? gillian: we should probably stop complaining about the weather on the east coast. mike: exactly right. wbr id= wbr68660 /> thankfully false alarm in hawaii and thankfully that congress woman tulsi gabbard grot the information and alerted constituents and were able to calm down 35 minutes after the initial alert went out. all kinds of investigation now to try to figure out whether somebody pressed the button, whether there was a hacking, exactly what led to this, but a tough way to start your day in hawaii, imagine folks on vacation or people who live there who are living under the threat of north korea, hearing those sirens first thing this /b> morning. gillian: you know, that will be the million dollar question now going forward is the investigation into what exactly went wrong. i don t know if we still have lucas with us but maybe we can ask him, lucas, do you have a sense of what the procedure is of taking this forward, how they can rectify the situation or prevent it from happening in the wbr-id= wbr69260 /> future? although it s not a u.s. military system, hawaii s emergency management system, this is a lot like amber alert set up and better or for worse, now in technology can reach out people very quickly. within minutes, millions of people on the island of hawaiis had message saying the missile was inbound. in terms of investigation, they re going to have to go back in the logs and find out, interview all the people and something on the keyboard or is it more sinister and that is all the systems are prone to hacks, outside actors, somebody trying to have a little bit of fun, great cost and we now to find out in hawaii how bad people were impacted, anybody drive off the road, anybody, you know, freak out at home and you also have pga golf tournament, people living their lives and also big events that go in hawaii around the clock. mike: in post 9/11 world you don t take things for granted, anything less than quite deadly serious and you can only imagine the panic people felt in hawaii. thankfully it was a false alarm, all kinds of information now to figure out how to prevent this from happening in the future. you don t want to cry golf from constituents and leave house, run, and then god forbid there s an attack of some sort, emergency at some point, you don t want people to say, it s another false alarm. gillian: everybody because false sense when it comes to these kinds of alert that really do at the end of the day end up saving lives, protecting people, lucas made a really interesting chilling point that i hadn t thought of which is, perhaps this wasn t a mistake, perhaps this was some kind of motivated attack against the united states by an infiltrator, we don t know, this is just speculation, of course, at this hour but if this was not an accident, who is the perpetrator and how can they be stopped and how can this be how can we prevent this from happening again, it s very scary. mike: if you are just joining us, folks in hawaii woke up to alert on their phones telling them there was an emergency, perhaps an incoming missile, 35 minutes later, democratic congressman tulsi gabbard got the information that it was false alarm and there s no incoming missile and there s no incoming missile and so the question is at this point, the breaking news trying to figure out why this happened, who is responsible, was it a mistake, was it a hacking, these days we don t feel like our personal information is secure and so it s a foreign actor or what caused this. lucas, i want to ask you while we still got you on the line here, we are hearing from u.s. pacific command, from the spokesperson, they are confirming that it was a false alarm, do you know do you have anything else on that, can you tell us what you re hearing from your sources? gillian, the u.s. pacific command is based in hawaii and they track all of north korea s ballistic launches and when they put out the statement, people with rest assure not only are actors, these are the guys and women that you track this type of missile launches, they could make that judgment. gillian: while we have you, i want to get viewers the benefit of tapping into your expertise, can you tell us a word about pacific commands mission and what they do more broadly? the u.s. pacific command is the largest combatant command in the world leading the u.s. military, the pentagon has divided the world into different sections, the pacific, u.s. pacific command based in hawaii in pearl harbor runs all u.s. military operations, army, navy, air force, marines, in the entie pacific region, southern pacific, all the way to hawaii and parts of the pacific. so you re talking about hundreds of warships based in hawaii, you re talking about ships based gillian: lucas, we have to
sky. the rocket launch that mesmerized millions. and the confusion, chaos and crashes it caused. and good evening and welcome to world news tonight. i m tom llamas, in for david. and we begin with that deadly winter wallop, striking the day after christmas, as millions of americans travel for the holidays. snow falling from coast to coast. eye-popping accumulations in parts of pennsylvania and upstate new york. more than 50 inches in some spots. and it s not just snow. wind chill alerts in 20 states. this time lapse video from duluth, minnesota, where temperatures hit 21 degrees below zero. causing steam and fog to rise from lake superior. treacherous driving conditions tonight. four killed in one interstate crash in kansas. slow going from the great lakes through the northeast. and a frightening moment at boston s logan airport, when a jetblue passenger plane skidded out after landing in slick conditions. airline delays stacking up tonight as that arctic blast moves east. abc s alex perez gets us started in hall hamburg, new york. reporter: tonight, with millions on the roads, the lake effect snow machine is shattering records and grinding travel to a halt. the city of erie, pennsylvania, declaring a snow emergency. crews unable to keep up with the nearly four and a half feet of snow that fell in just 36 hours. overnight, dozens of cars spinning off highways and these drivers backed up for miles on interstate 90 outside of town. that lake effect snow leaving buffalo buried. whiteout conditions all the way to kalamazoo. that snow fueled by bone-chilling air, causing car wrecks in kansas, where at least four people died after sliding off the road. in the northwest, icy roads causing pileups. in oregon, one driver injured. lost control. did a 360, hit a car on the next lane and ended up here. reporter: meanwhile, parts of the northeast are digging out after getting blizzard conditions for christmas. white-knuckle travel from maine to massachusetts, where there was thundersnow. thundersnow! reporter: and winds gusted to 65 miles an hour, knocking this beam off the sagamore bridge and knocking out power to thousands. at boston s logan overnight, flights were delayed for hours, and one almost didn t make it. we started spinning and spinning and spinning. everything s fine. we just skidded on the ice. reporter: passengers evacuating onto the icy tarmac and onto shuttle buses after a jetblue plane from savannah spun all the way around. thankfully, no one was injured. and alex perez joins us live now, just outside of buffalo. alex, it s hard to make out what s behind you, because everything is frozen and they re expecting even more snow? reporter: that s right, tom. it s hard to believe even staring right at it. take a look behind me there. this is lake erie back there, and the water coming up to the shore here basically freezing solid. that s a bench underneath there. aaa says they re getting about 100 calls an hour for help, and it s not over just yet. they re expecting more snow, about a foot more of snow just south of here in the next 24 hours. tom? incredible amounts of snow and incredible images. all right, alex, thank you. and that arctic blast likely will be dangerous. wind chill alerts in 20 states. some 45 million americans feeling the cold. let s go to abc news senior meteorologist rob marciano with more. rob? reporter: good evening, tom. right now, in the least amount of daylight and the most amount of cold all year long and those zero degree temperatures scooping up that relatively warm water of the great lakes and dumping it east of cleveland, south of buffalo, north of syracuse and northern michigan. another one to two feet, as alex mentioned, on top of the four and five feet they ve seen. so, some stunning totals comes in the next 24 hours, for sure. wind chills, as you mentioned, 20 states in the frozen zone. look at these numbers, in chicago tomorrow morning, going to feel like minus 14. but by thursday morning, even colder across the east coast. boston will feel like minus 16. 5 in philadelphia. single digits all the way down into the carolinas. that cold air sits in place right through the new year, with multiple opportunities of snow and ice. tom? we re going to have to brace for this winter. all right, rob, thanks so much. next tonight, to florida, where president trump is spending the holidays away from the white house. the president playing golf today at one club bearing his name. trump also on twitter, taking aim at a pair of favorite targets of 2017 the ongoing russia investigation and the fbi. abc news s kenneth moton is in west palm beach. reporter: president trump today spotted on his trump international golf course, through the trees in his signature red make america great again hat. on christmas, the president said he d be back at work today. he s also back on twitter, responding to a fox news report about that now infamous dossier, alleging links between the trump campaign and russia. the dossier we have long known is bogus. reporter: the president tweeting, wow. dossier is bogus. clinton campaign, dnc funded dossier. fbi cannot, after all of this time, verify claims in dossier of russia/trump collusion. fbi tainted. the most salacious parts of the dossier have not been corroborated, and it s unclear what role, if any, it has played in the fbi s broader russia investigation. for weeks, the president has been attacking the fbi. well, it s a shame what s happened with the fbi. reporter: here in mar-a-lago, president trump also taking aim at fbi deputy director andrew mccabe, accusing him of bias during the hillary clinton e-mail investigation, after an ally of clinton s donated to mccabe s wife s political campaign. at the time, mccabe consulted fbi ethics officials about the donation. the president asking on twitter how mccabe could be, quote, given $700,000 for wife s campaign by clinton puppets. the administration defending the president s attacks on fbi leadership. he s making the point that we need to make sure there s no bias, and i think there s serious concerns about whether friday night sky. wow, what is that? reporter: the sight so mesmerizing that some motorists couldn t keep their eyes out of the sky and on the road. oh! [ bleep ]. this guy s not paying attention. reporter: and even after those three cars crashed, the narrator in this video barely skips a beat, he just keeps talking about that shape in the sky. wow. what is that? reporter: the rocket s unusual, whale-shaped contrail feeding a frenzy. if you re wondering that bright thing in the sky was the missile launch. reporter: and so many were wondering. no, dude, what is that? reporter: so many didn t get the message that the hash tag aliens trended on twitter. calls flooded tv stations with ufo sightings. and the man who created the mess? elon musk jokingly capping it this way nuclear alien ufo from north korea. now, the next falcon-9 launch isn t until later next month. we re not sure it will be quite as spectacular at the last one, but the california highway patrol hopes that this time, all these motorists will keep their eyes on the road. tom? drivers be warned. all right, matt, thank you so much. there s still much more ahead on world news tonight this tuesday. an apartment inferno. was this blaze caused by a toy battery in the process of charging? plus, the sharp jump in flu cases. what s ahead, and how you can stay healthy. and these two men, best friends for more than 60 years. the secret they never knew, revealed tonight. with us. revealed tonight. stay with us. david. what s going on? oh hey! that s it? yeah. everybody two seconds! dear sebastian, after careful consideration of your application, it is with great pleasure that we offer our congratulations on your acceptance. through the tuition assistance program, every day mcdonald s helps more people go to college. it s part of our commitment to being america s best first job. the market.redict but through good times and bad. .at t. rowe price. .we ve helped our investors stay confident for over 75 years. call us or your advisor. t. rowe price. invest with confidence. i just drank tons of water a proall the time, it was never enough. my dentist suggested biotene. my mouth felt more lubricated. i use the biotene rinse and then i use the spray. biotene did make a difference. 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and it was it was also amazing that it was just it was so hard to hear her. you know, we could have very easily taken two more steps and wouldn t be able to hear her at all. joining us from montecito, california, gadi schwartz. videos of images coming out of there, unbelievable to see and see that girl pulled out as that guy said and so unscathed from it. what are you seeing on the ground there, gadi? reporter: yeah, such a remarkable rescue. that 14-year-old girl thought she had died when they pulled her out. all of his hit around 3:45 in the morning. most people were sleeping in houses like this. they wake up, their neighbors, alarms going off, they re surrounded by what, they get in the car, try to hunker down in their home. and this was the type of debris this is what happens. we ll talk to bill karins about that in a little bit. gadi schwartz, thank you. in a rare public event president trump put in full display the bipartisan negotiation over a deal to protect thousand of undocumented immigrants. reporters were in the room as the president promised to sign a bill to extend the daca program if congress was able to reach an agreement. nbc news peter alexander has more. reporter: inside the west wing if you don t have the world, you cannot have security. reporter: for merely an hour. you have created an opportunity here, mr. president. and you need to close the deal. reporter: a remarkable televised negotiating session. what about a clean daca bill now? we don t want to be back here two years later. we have to have security. reporter: president trump seemingly taking nearly over controversial position he s had on immigration, even giving democrats what they want, a bill he said exactly as he did in that room, let s work together. our thanks to peter alexander. president trump promised to be a dealmaker president and he told the bipartisan gathering yesterday. take a listen. our system lends itself to not getting things done. i hear about earmarks, the old earmarks system how there was a great friendliness with earmarks. maybe all of you should start thinking about going back to a form of earmarks. because this system this system no, then he should do it. and that s another big story that s playing out on capitol hill. senator dianne feinstein, the top democrat on the judiciary committee defied republicans when she decided to release the august testimony of fusion gps chairman simpson. we know the firm hired christopher steele to do research on trump which became the infamous steele dossier. among the takeaways from the testimony, simpson said he was interested in finding out information about trump s business activities. testifying that trump had, quote, made a number of trips to russia and talked about doing a number of business deals but never actually did one and that struck me as a little bit odd in calling for an explanation. so in june or may of 2006, simpson said he hired steele who he described as, quote, a lead russianist for the british secret service. according to simpson s testimony in september 2016, steele told an fbi contact that he believed donald trump was enthralled with russian intelligence. and that he believed russian intelligence was cooperating with the campaign. steele passed the information on to the fbi more than a year ago. and according toe simpson, the bureau said it had already heard something along those lines. we now know the information that the fbi heard came from an australian diplomat who according to the the new york times told the fbi that he had drinks with trump campaign aide george papadopoulos and that papadopoulos had e-mails that would of course hillary clinton. now, to the process of how this information became public, a spokesman for chairman grassley told totally confounding would release the testimony unilaterally, claiming it would jeopardize the judiciary committee. here s senator feinstein defending her actions. reporter: why did you decide to that? because, i think people are entitled to know what was said. and the lawyers also, i snee problem with releasing it. but senator feinstein, senator grassley said you jeopardized getting certain witnesses like kushner. your reaction? i don t think so. that s been difficult. why do you think they referred steele to the justice department, potential investigation? to my view, to my knowledge, there has not been a single fact in that report that has been proven to be incorrect. that it s really the muddying of waters that create a problem. you know, steele brought this information out to the fbi. and it s quite amazing that we get punished for providing information. that sounding very forthcoming there. yeah. while grassley is blasting the decision, there are republicans on the committee who support finestein s moves. senator john cornyn said he thinks it s a good idea, adding, quote, i respect senator grassley. but i think it s important. what i do want is for the public to see. meanwhile the president s lawyer michael kohn is now using buzzfeed over that. we ll have more on that. breitbart announced that bannon would step down. in the controversy that sparked backlash from the president. the new york times reports that bannon was and bannon s position at breitbart grew untenable as associates described him as unable to grasp the severity of the fallout at the white house. over the weekend, bannon had backtracked on his reported comments telling his radio show listeners that he expected to stay on at the news site. and that he supports the trump agenda. now, bannon is leaving breitbart, but not expected to leave politics. citing a washington post report, bannon has told associates that he plans on creating a 2018 political operation. and a source close to bannon tells nbc news that bannon believes president trump is transactional, and that they will have a relationship once again. joining us is deputy news editor for axios, dave waller. give us what you think is there do progress, with the sticking points with the president saying i ll take the heat for it, if we want to make changes here. what are your take-aways? two big takeaways, first, president trump is in a really good place in terms of his rhetoric. he said he wants a bill of love. that s not something you d expect from a president who ran on a hard line immigration policy. he also wants to have a deal on daca. you take that aside, you think, okay, maybe we re in a position to get a deal. the problem is there s four big issues outstanding on immigration alone in terms of border security. chain migration, visas and then daca. we re not really any closer on those four issues and we re coming up on a deadline january 19th for a government shutdown. democrats say we can get deals by then. that seems like a long way to go in just a short period of time. dave, let me ask you something that came up yesterday in the meeting because the president that actually brought this up and kind of struck people. the idea of bringing back ear marx or pork barrel spending as it s pejoratively known. what are the pros and cons of bringing this type back into legislation, or dealmaking? yeah, this is something that was being discussed in kind of hushed voices, right. president trump, that s not his strategy. it s a politically toxic issue. the idea that members could have little giveaways for them, in order to get their votes on a bill. it s something that voters have kind of, obviously, turned on. it feels like the swamp, something that president trump wouldn t necessarily support. although it does make close votes a little bit easier to pass. and we ve had a lot of close votes under trump. so, there is a case to be made that maybe you could pass more bills if you re able to give these little perks. there are certainly some audible reactions in the room when the president brought up the idea of bringing back earmarks, that is for sure. for sure. i think it s a controversial issue, dave lawler, we ll check back in a bit. le following the diplomatic talks between north and south korea, and why president trump is actually getting some of the credit. and arizona ex-sheriff joe arpaio announcing a run. we ll check on that story and others when we come back. from the very beginning . it was always our singular focus. to do whatever it takes, use every possible resource. to fight cancer. and never lose sight of the patients we re fighting for. our cancer treatment specialists share the same vision. experts from all over the world, working closely together to deliver truly personalized cancer care. and these are the specialists we re proud to call our own. expert medicine works here. learn more at cancercenter.com appointments available now. and sometimes, i don t eat the way i should. so, i drink boost. boost high protein nutritional drink has 15 grams of protein to help maintain muscle and 26 essential vitamins and minerals, including calcium and vitamin d. boost high protein be up for it we are the tv doctors of america, and we may not know much about medicine, but we know a lot about drama. we also know that you can avoid drama by getting an annual check-up. so go, know, and take control of your health. it could save your life. cigna. together, all the way. it could save your life. nahelps protect eyes fromue damaging blue light, filtering it out to help you continue enjoying your screens. or. you could just put your phones down and talk to each other. 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lavished praise on himself several times this week for his role. we will have a live report from seoul. and a earthquake struck the coast of honduras before 10:00 p.m. eastern time. on the coasts of mexico and central america, but no tsunami actually materialized. there were also no reports of earlier reports of serious damages or casualties on land after the quake struck. last night s earthquake was one of the largest, believe it or not to hit the caribbean in history. the 2010 earthquake, the magnitude of 7.0. let s get a check of weather with nbc meteorologist bill karins. bill, we had gadi schwartz on from california. he saw the power of the mudslides. is there more rain on the way? well, they ve dried out. here the worst fire in history for total achae a acreages burne only had one fate targllty. you saw trees just the inkrenn force of that water raging through that region. again, recovery today. that was just tossed there in the middle of that wash. the storm itself has now moved into arizona. it s providing a little bit of rain. it s still a threat to the inner mountain west. ski areas are getting snow at higher elevations. it s going to plague all of us, some areas getting rain, some snow and some ice. for today, tomorrow and tomorrow, winter storm watches for minneapolis, omaha. so the central plains today into tonight that we get some of this snow. not a huge ordeal. it looks to be 1 to 3 inches across the area. this area of blue, could be as much as 6. rochester, virginia, maybe ames gets more than that. a lot of snow in iowa, you will be plowing or shoveling come tomorrow morning at this time. as far as the snowfall forecast through thursday, and then as far as the ice goes, this is going to be thursday afternoon. into friday. and this looks like the possibility of an ice storm, quarter inch to a half inch, all of the ohio valley, kentucky. even portions of tennessee, back to pittsburgh, guys. a messy storm. hey, california, it s going to head all the way to the east coast as we go throughout the weekend. bill, it s not record rainfall, or abnormally high inches of rain that s falling, right? it s the combination, that you re saying, fire, and the mud and everything that was beforehand with that? well, it was the combination of the late fire. that fire almost never do we get fires this huge in december. and then the vegetation had no time to re-establish itself. re-establish the roots. right. you know, someone was making the comparison to like, you know, a late season or hurricane or even an early season hurricane. it just happened kind of out of season that fire. and then with the huge wet weather, big storm behind it. this was a big storm. san francisco had one of its top 20 rainiest days in history. yeah, it was a big storm on the heels the fire. and that combination. thanks for that, bill. still ahead, with the college football national championships in the books, the focus turn to the hardwood. one of the stars breaking records 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what really drives me to- to save lives. welcome back. time now for sports. last night, the college football season ended. now, let s focus on some college basketball, because march maddingness is on our door step. number 21 kentucky up by one with four seconds misses the free throw. texas a&m with a chance. but the ball is thrown out of bounds. a controversial no call with the kentucky hold. kentucky escapes this one with the win. moving to number five, purdue in danger of being upset by michigan. a missed free throw again. michigan is unable to connect for deep three. purdue hangs on 70-69. right now to 9112, kansas squaring off against iowa state. kansas up by three. the jayhawks steal the ball. malik newman with the slam. and an alley-oop kansas wins. number two west virginia up by three, baylor inbounds. the court there, open shot, no good. the mountaineers survive that one 57-54. seton hall was the only top-25 team who played last night who did not escape. they lost handily 84-64 to big east rival marquette, thanks to marquette senior andrew rousey. let s switch gears going to the nfl and the head coaching carousel. the oakland raiders roll out the black carpet to the new and returning coach jon gruden. gruden coached the raiders 1968 to 71. and then for the buccaneers. gruden was let go by the bucs in 2008. he s not coached next. he s worked as a broadcaster for monday night football. i m sure he ll be missed there. he s reported to have signed a ten-year contract with the black. mikaela shiffrin is making history with a victory in last night s slalom event in austria. the 22-year-old is now the first skier to win five straight world cup races. shiffrin matches the record of most world cup wins before turning 23 earning her first victory. shiffrin is favored to win three gold medals for team usa in pyeongchang. guys, i cannot believe she s not even 23 years old. yeah, a lot of interest building around her and the u.s. team in south korea. for sure. that s 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the testimony of fusion gps glenn simpson. and chris stouffer steele to do opposition research on donald trump which later became the infamous dossier. grassley is blasting the decision. other republicans on the committee are supporting finestein s move. meanwhile, donald trump s personal attorney michael kohn has filed two separate defamation lawsuits, one against phusion gps and other against buzzfeed for public issue willing the document. one claimed that his wife is russian and that her father is a leading property developer in russia which allows that relationship with the russian government. the lawsuit said cohen s wife is ukrainian. and that her father has only been to russia once. buzzfeed published it last january and says it plans to fight the lawsuit. ben smith the editor-in-chief will speak live with joe and mika later this morning. the fallout from steve bannon s comments in a new book exposing the chaos inside the trump presidency is worried that he s leaving his post at breitbart news. it s the twist in a stunning week of what has caused the president to get elected. hallie jackson has more. reporter: a breitbart bombshell for steve bannon, stepping down less than 48 hours after trying to defuse his verbal grenades published in a tell-all book. his explosive comments slamming the president and president s son-in-law, igniting responses from donors and from his former boss, the president himself nicknaming him sloppy steve. who breitbart part ways with steve bannon after the comments in the books? i certainly think it s something they should look at. reporter: bannon left the white house in a sudden shake-up this summer, resumed his role as the breitbart chairman said i m proud of what the breitbart team has accomplished in such a short period of time building that news platform. it s a controversial platform, too. with bannon, the lightning rod telling 60 minutes i m a street fighter. reporter: he s also the enemy of established republicans who were nearly gleeful after his fall from grace in the eyes of the president. and in the eyes of some conservatives who did not back bannon s preferred pick in the alabama senate race. he has presided over the freak show wing of the republican party. and that legacy of his is one that will continue forward. reporter: bannon, self-styled as a shadowy mastermind, keeper of the nationalist fling. but sources close to him telling nbc news tonight he s ready to move more into politics. hallie jackson, the white house. president trump had to clarify his position on what is the signature issue of the 2016 campaign, you may recall the border wall with mexico that mexico pays for. after an hour-long on-camera bipartisan meeting where both republicans and democrats tested the president on what would be his core issue, trump said he would accept their recommendations, watch this. what about a clean daca bill now? i have no problem. we re going to come up with daca. we re going to do daca. went we ll start immediately on phase two which would be comprehensive. you need to be clear, i think what senator feinstein is asking, when you talk be daca, we have to have security as the secretary would tell you? i think that s what she s saying. what do you think i m saying? i m thinking you re saying daca without security. you know, i would vote for the path to citizenship which isn t very easy for me, but i would do it just as an effort. but there s certain things that we ve got to guarantee that we re going to do. that s got to be brought up. i really believe that will be brought up of part of what we re talking about. it s incentive for people to do a good job, if you want to know the truth. that whole path would be incentive for people to work hard and do a good job. that could very well be brought up. it seems to me not much has actually changed here in terms of your positions? i think it s changed i think my positions are going to be what the people in this room come up. i m very much reliant on the people in this room. i have a lot of respect for the people on both sides. and my position is going to be what the people in this room come to me with. i have great confidence if they come to me with things i m not in love with, i m going to do it, because i respect them. republican surrogates went out to re-establish their policy demands to go along with daca. and then the president tweeted about his top priority, quote, as i made very clear today, our country needs the security of the wall on the southern border which must be part of any daca approval. but president trump set an expiration deadline for daca of march 5th. democrats have set a different day for action next friday, january 19th. this is the need to process applications with the expiration dates. according to homeland security secretary, they must take place. ace federal district court judge in northern california ruled that the department of homeland security mutt resume accepting applications which the trump administration halted. the judge ruled that dhs does not have to consider new applications and called the government s defense to halt the program arbitrary and capricious. switching to politics, former arizona sheriff joe arpaio has announced his bid to run for jeff flake s position. the 85-year-old was pardoned by president trump last year after being convicted of federal misdemeanor criminal contempt. he tells nbc news that age is not a concern. revealing, quote, i ll gun anybody. arpaio adds, quote, it s time to get fresh blood in washington. arpaia who was maricopa county sheriff for years. flake and arpaio have been open about their mutual dislike of each other and yesterday, flame responsibilitied with this. i d be much more concerned if he s in it for the long haul. i don t think he is. there has not been one election cycle since the early 90s where joe arpaio has said he s thinking about running statewide. you re not taking it seriously? no, i don t think he s in it for the long haul. i think by this time next month, he may not be in the race. i cannot see supporting joe arpaio. i don t think he ll get very far. and kelly ward who announced her candidacy, who said in an august statement, she woks arpaio into the race. and the editor for axios dave lawler, as we heard from flake, interesting words from arpaio, not necessarily taking the bid seriously. and arpaio saying he wants fresh blood in washington. he ll outgun anybody. yes, but he s yes years old. not necessarily seen as flesh blood. do you think the senate bill has the potential to revive the republican party, kind of in the same way roy moore s did? the potential is there. i think we need to be a bit more kau cautious, because i personally would not predict that joe arpaio be the republican nominee in arizona. he ll be running in a pretty crowded field. but he s going to have a platform because he s known nationwide. you know, it s hard to imagine a more toxic candidate, well, other than roy moore, perhaps. and so, you know, the more he gets up in front of the camera, the more he s going to make mitch mcconnell and people who are trying to keep the republican majority in the senate nervous. but, you know, let s talk in a year and see if we re waiting on arpaio. i think the more he gets in front of the camera, the more he s likely to make controversial remarks that will put more media and spotlight on him. let s switch gears, your colleagues have been reporting on a number of gerrymandering cases being heard by the supreme courts. very important decisions in front of them and federal courts. tell us about those and the potential impact in 2018. a big decision last night in north carolina. a federal judge ruled that the map there, the controversial map drawn by republicans was overly partisan and unconstitutional. and threw it out. so they re going to have to draw new districts. there is a case going in front of the supreme court dealing with wisconsin, and that could really be the big one. because if the supreme court decides that wisconsin s map is overly partisan, they could set new guidelines for how you determine what is a fair congressional map. and if that happens that would be a landmark decision. and it would change what we re looking at in terms of even balance of power going forward because we have a whole new district map in several states, probably. incredible. dave lawler live for us in washington, d.c. thanks for that. and president trump has weighed in on the possibility of oprah winfrey jumping into the 2020 presidential race. take a listen. yeah, i ll beat oprah. i know her very well. i did one of her last shows. this is before politics, her last week, she had donald trump and my family. it was very nice. no i like oprah. i don t think she s going to run. however, the treatments of the 2020 matchup between trump and winfrey may be short-lived. on monday, a source close to winfrey told nbc news she has no intention of running. now, this isn t the first time that trump has praised winfrey, trump quoted her name in 2009 and 2015 as a potential pick. i heard from cbs the other, she said that oprah is inintrigued by the idea of running for president. there s mixed messages in there. he seems confident he can win. still ahead, while the trump administration strikes a deal with one state over the fight to drill off of its waters. president trump planning to meet the world s elite economic leaders. it s taking place in switzerland. this story and much more. bill karins is back with us, with a check on the forecast, when we return. i work overtime when i can get it. i need my blood sugar to stay in control. so i asked about tresiba®. tresiba® ready tresiba® is a once-daily, long-acting insulin that lasts even longer than 24 hours. i need to cut my a1c. tresiba® ready tresiba® works like my body s insulin. releases slow and steady. providing powerful a1c reduction. my week? hectic. my weekends? my time. tresiba® ready i can 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nothing even half as bad as what we already experienced but this storm is moving across the area with snow and ice and a lot of rain, returning to cold mind it. there goes the storm. spinning into the snow in the four corner regions. this comes into the plains. 10 million people under wind advisory, winter storm watches. again, it s going to be a minor event in the plains, one, two, three inches of snow. here s how we re going to time it out, 10:00 a.m., snow through rapid city, billings. one to two inches, nuisance type stuff. tomorrow morning, rochester, minnesota, minneapolis, by 6:00 p.m. thursday, this is where the storm gets messy, the backside cold air is going to wrap in. freezing rain in missouri. freezing rain breaking outside towards illinois tuesday evening and a band of snow. all rain ahead of it. and a lot of fog ahead of it, too. as far as the snowfall accumulations, i mentioned bun to two inches. the snowfall in higher elevations in jackson hole, you ll pick up 6 to 12. here s the nasty stuff into friday. here s the ice forecast. quarter inch of ice, half inch, ohio valley, illinois, as star south as tennessee, possibly west virginia and pittsburgh, too. one of the problems with this big fall, you guys, falling ice from skyscrapers. you have seen the pictures from soho and lower manhattan yesterday? this is from 20 stories high. big chunk of ice crushed the roof of that suv. no injuries reported with that. with fire escapes on buildings, i ve seen those as well. got to watch out. not only that, you have to worry about slippery, but look up and make sure you don t get hit. the white house as announced that president trump is planning to attend the economic forum in davos, switzerland. sarah sanders made that announcement yesterday saying in part the president looks forward to promoting his policies to strengthen american business its and workers. representatives have gone to davos, with presidents often declining to attend. the decision marks a shift for president trump who tap into anti-global sentiment to win the white house. the economic forum in davos is seen as an economic gathering of globalists, financial elite. but an official tells nbc that the president was always more moderate than given credit for. adding almost everything with exceptions that he s willing to deal. maybe he s willing do a little skiing there in switzerland. maybe that s the reason he s going. still ahead, could a meeting between the leaders of north and south korea be on the horizon following this week s high-level talks? 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yeah, seemingly it seems just for the time being. thank you. coming up next on morning joe, more on the goings over a deal with daca following president trump s sit-down with the white house. it s the fate of thousands of young undocumented immigrants hang in the balance. senator elizabeth warren, mark warner will weigh in on whether a deal with get done with less than a week over the democrat s self imposed deadline. morning joe, everyone, moments away. keep it comin love. if you keep on eating, we ll keep it comin . all you can eat riblets and tenders at applebee s. now that s eatin good in the neighborhood. nahelps protect eyes fromue damaging blue light, filtering it out to help you continue enjoying your screens. or. you could just put your phones down and talk to each other. 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phil mattingly, thank you so much. dana bash who used to run up and down those halls for years and years and years. phil has talked to folks on both sides of the aisle. confident that the house will get to this and nancy pelosi was so key in brokering this deal why is she standing there now for four-plus hours and saying no? i saw you write that down and because you re you, is why you picked up what you did about nancy pelosi. to people at home, it makes no sense. not at all. because she s getting attention for the issue she s upset is not in there. she understood because she is as sort of seasoned and tough as a legislator as they come, that at the end of the day, we saw what happened in the senate a few weeks ago. they tried to use the immigration issue as leverage for keeping the government open and it didn t work. shut the government down. it didn t work out so politically, at least in the short term, for democrats. nancy pelosi is making using the megaphone that she has by saying, you know what? i want to get a promise from the republicans that if the senate brings this up the house will as well. she s trying to shine a light on this issue. why? politically. phil touched on this. there are many people in her party who are furious about giving uch the leverage of immigration, giving up the leverage of the dreamer issue and letting this package that a lot of things a lot of people want from military spending, health community centers, disaster relief for hurricanes. lot of people in the conservative movement and even democrats who don t like it, because it is a lot of government spending which many of them campaigned for for years. at the same time they re taking baby steps. the question after this happens, and assuming it will ultimately pass the house and our government will stay open and there will be a two-year budget deal, then when the senate turns to immigration, which technically is supposed to be tomorrow when they start debate, how does that play out? that s a very big question. that s what we watch for tomorrow on immigration. more breaking news out of the white house. senior aide to president trump has resigned after two ex-wives went public with accusations of domestic abuse. i m talking about rob porter. trump s white house staff secretary. he denies these allegations but is stepping down anyway. dana is with me. i also want to bring in jeff zeleny, our stand-in senior white house correspondent. jeff, rob porter has denied this entirely but yet he chose he s left the white house. tell me more. indeed, brooke, fairly abrupt decision to announce his resignation. the white house staff secretary is a very important person in the west wing, largely because they handle the information flow into and utilize of the office. lot of proximity to the president. he was an aide fo orrin hatch and others on capitol hill. he did announce he was resigning today in the wake of that report of verbal and physical abuse of his two ex-wives. this is first reported by the daily mail. this is something that has been percolating a bit. yesterday several white house aides stood by him and said they were going to support him. and then today he resigns when some photographs were published also online of a black eye of one of his former wives. let s take a look at this statement. these allegations are false. i took the photos given to the media 15 years ago. and the reality behind them is nowhere close as to what s being described. he goes on to say i ve been transparent and truthful about these vile claims but i will not further engage publicly with a coordinated smear campaign. he is also having a personal relationship, we hear, with hope hicks, white house communications director, who, of course, is very close to the president. that was one of the reasons he was viewed so highly inside the west wing here. it was one of the reasons he was being protected. certainly interesting he announced he was resigning today. we re not certain the date of the resignation. it will happen some point in the future. if have you this photographic routine. everyone is hired at the white house. then they go through background checks for security clearance. that s when this was learned, some point last year about abuse allegations. it s all surfacing in the last couple of days at the daily mail.com report and then he decided to resign, rather abruptly, i would say, today, brooke. what are you thinking on this? he s saying he didn t do it, but he s leaving. a big job. a very big job. look, as jeff was saying, it s too early to know the real details. i don t know that we ll ever know the real deal. in talking to people who worked with rob porter in the white house and before that on the hill, but particularly in the white house, they re pretty surprised by this. those who interact with him as a colleague are pretty surprised. they call him extremely soft our mj lee was talking with senator hatch and he said his statement he says this. i m heartbroken by today s allegations and every action i ve had with rob, he has been courteous, professional and respectful. i do not know the details of his personal life. domestic violence in any form is abhorrent. i am praying for rob and those involved. however, the white house released a statement from senator hatch in his name saying it is incredibly discouraging to see such a vile attack on such a decent man. shame on any publication that would print this and shame on the politically motivated, morally bankrupt character as issins that would attempt to sully a man s good name. boy, that s trumpy. so was he saying that? his printed statement released by the white house in the senator s name. we are told that the senator, once his office learns more about this, wanted to release their own. interesting. the white house clearly trying to put a different light, blame the media light on this. and, again, we have to point out one of the people at the center of this is the white house communications director hope hicks in charge of messaging. we are told by multiple people familiar with the situation that she is having a personal relationship with rob porter. that one of the complicating dynamics but certainly orrin hatch wishing his former colleague well but stepping way back from what the white house is trying to say in his name. brooke? jeff, thank you very much. dana, thank you. next, marching orders, secretary of defense james mattis weighing in on president trump s request for a military parade as more and more veterans are speaking out, saying no to any sort of parade. one senator calling it cheesy. also, kim jong-un s youngest sister now being sent to lead the north korea delegation at the winter olympics in south korea. what we know about her background and the role she has in her family. keep in mind, this is happening as the vice president announces added pressure on north korea ahead of the olympic bes. 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i ll quote my father, larry quinn, 91, world war ii veteran in the navy. he think it s ridiculous, a waste of money. honestly, he believes and i believe him, victories are to be celebrated, and veteran s day. the president called for this parade because he had fun in france, liked all the big guns and troops parade in front of him. this really smacks of the president liking the way the north korean leader dictates a little too much. this seems about donald trump and making sure everyone knows he has the biggest button and not about veterans sacrifices. what do you think, steve? coming out of new york city, which gives america the biggest military parade every single year, called fleet week, where we parade our united states navy up the river and thousands enjoy seeing that, there s no reason we couldn t show the great job the president is doing rebuilding our military, sequestration, demilitary strength. it s on the mend, getting stronger every day. the world knows it. why not show off to our military how proud we are of that. steve just told the truth of what this parade is about, showcasing what republicans believe is donald trump s successes. that s very different than fleet week, a longstanding tradition to give the men and women of the navy and marines a break and celebration. longstanding parade, christine. longstanding parade. it s more of a gathering than a parade, fleet week, but longstanding, yes. that s about the men and women. as you said, steve, this parade the president proposing would be about saluting the president s so-called good work. political, serving and supporting military. saluting the greatness of our military, of sacrifice so much in this longstanding effort in the middle east. losing men and women every single year. enough is enough. let s tell the world we have the most powerful military on the planet earth and they should stand down. people shouldn t need a parade that salutes the president, as you said, the president s so-called successes to know that america is the greatest might morally and militarily in the world. we are losing that posture and that position and people seeing us that way because of the president s behavior. our military is getting stronger every day. we re building our military forces. isis is disintegrating because of this military. their morale is being reboosted after being demoralized under barack obama and sequestration efforts and it s about time we show the world what we re made of. the world knows. the world doesn t know. you think the world knows. let s listen to the secretary of defense who jumped in to the white house press briefing and offered this when asked about it. as far as the parade goes again, the president s respect, his fondness for the military, i think, is reflected in him asking for these options. we ve been putting together some options. we ll send them up to the white house for decision. general was on last hour who pointed out more of the sort of reticence. he was of your camp saying, listen, if our military is a bunch of bad asses, pardon, we don t need to show the world. we just know we are. let me add one more piece of sound. republican senator lindsey graham weighed in as well. i m not looking for a soviet-style hardware display. that s not who we are. that s cheesy and shows weakness, i think, quite frankly. a parade where can all say thank you and honor them would be fine. i would like to see kids marching, honor military families. okay. i just wanted to get those voices in the conversation as well. let s move on to our former vice president, joe biden, here at cnn last night. he was on with chris cuomo and offered this when it comes to the president. i just marvel at some of the things he says and does, like, what, two days ago, anybody that didn t stand up and clap for him was unamerican and maybe even treasonous? he said it was tongue in cheek. democrats can t take a joke. let me tell you, he s a joke. that s been the headline, coming from former vice president, calling the president a joke. coming from a guy who plagiarized an entire speech, people seem to forget. you have to question who the joke is. biden is irrelevant. nobody cares what he has to say. and the president, again, is presiding over the greatest economy we ve seen in decades, rebuilding of our american military, great economic growth, stock market growth despite recent corrections and an economy second to none over the last 30 years. wow! huh? so, obviously, bringing up the speech from the labor secretary is really having to reach back in history, to criticize joe biden. you learn from this. you do. but joe biden has moved on and served his country well. if you look at recent polling on the former vice president, it shows that many, many americans care what he has to say and what he thinks. let s stop for a second. there is all this upsetness that joe biden has said this about the president. let s remember all the horrible things that donald trump said and did regarding president obama s citizenship. he, in essence, called him an illegitimate american citizen, constantly, disrespectfully demanding his birth certificate, leading the so-called birther s movement. you want to talk about somebody being disrespectful to the president of the united states and to the office of the presidency, it is our present president, donald trump. not joe biden, a man who has dedicated his life to service to this country. he has sacrificed in the light that have. i hope joe biden runs for president trump, so donald trump can beat him and send him to retirement once and for all. i don t think that will be the outcome. thank you, steve and chris. appreciate both of you. kim jong-un s sister becomes the member of the dynasty to ever cross the border into south korea. what is behind her history-making trip to the olympics and what we actually know about her, coming up. for your heart. your joints. or your digestion. so why wouldn t you take something for the most important part of you. your brain. with an ingredient originally found in jellyfish, prevagen is now the number one selling brain health supplement in drug stores nationwide. prevagen. the name to remember. oooooooooh! you sleep on a poorly crafted mattress, you might find yourself sippin a hot cup of mud, too. you need a ghostbed™. the only mattress with cooling latex over gel memory foam to give you the deepest sleep. delivered to your door. in a box. at a great price. because you shouldn t have to pay a lot for a great night s sleep. order your ghostbed™ today and receive $100 off plus two free ghostpillows. ick! ghostbed™. amazing mattress. unreal sleep. high-profile delegation, his sister, kim jo-yung, first time any member of the kim dynasty has set foot on south korean soil. let s talk it over with i have a zillion questions for you. first and foremost, what do we even know about the sister? we know she s probably the youngest of kim jong-il s children. we don t even really know that. we don t know the number. of siblings? we don t even know? we don t know. most korea watcher think she is the most capable of kim jong-il s children. which means she would be the absolute ruler of north korea if she weren t a woman because it s a very male dominated society. so, therefore, that puts her out of the running. because it puts her out of the running, it also means she s not competition for her brother, kim jong-un, who is actually in charge. and that means she s become extremely influential. even, for instance, the number two in the regime. he s not that important. kim jong-un tells him what to do. he actually listens to his sister. with the sister, as we said, the first time someone in the family has set foot on south korean soil, are they worried about her interfacing with south koreans? would there be any danger? would they want to keep her, i don t know, if a private homestead of staying in some big hotel? i think both the south koreans and north koreans think the same way. they want to control all interactions that she has. you know, she could be talking to people like moon jae-in, the president of south korea, but it will be under very, very defined circumstances and they certainly don t want her talking to ordinary south koreans or to people who just go to the olympics. this will be one of the most closely choreographed items at the olympics. it s possible i was asking you in commercial break we know vice president pence will be over there for the opening ceremony. you could have we don t know the seating chart but you could have this sister and the u.s. vice president sitting certainly under the same roof. yeah. well, this is important because mike pence, the vice president, said look we re not ruling out discussions with north korea while he s at the olympics. he s not trying to set them up. moon jae-in, who does want to see a dialogue between north korea and the u.s. could very well try to arrange something, make it look accidental. all sorts of possibilities that can occur. you know, this is south korea, after all. anything can happen. especially at a very volatile time like this. and if pence does meet kim jong-il jo-yung, it will be one of the biggest stories this year. even korean language someone explained to me if she started talking to someone in south korea, it s almost like someone like us talking to someone from the 1950s. we speak the same language but there s a barrier. even more different than that. what s happened is that you have two koreas. they sit side by side. but they ve had very different developments since 1948. so, people the dialects are different. word usage is different. there are very difficult communications problems. we re seeing this now with the woman s ice hockey team fielded by both north korea and south korea, same team. they re having problems talking to each other. this is going to be you know, this is one of the most fascinating things. yeah, they re all koreans but they re two very different societies. so noteworthy. gordon chung, thank you so much. we ll watch this limp beings very closely. appreciate you. breaking news out of the white house. senior aide to president trump up and resigning after two ex-wives have gone public with accusations of domestic abuse. he is denying this, by the way. just in, was the white house aware of the allegations? 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absolutely. what are you going to do? convince the special counsel s office that they re bronco whatever conclusions they ve made? we don t know what conclusions they ve made but they have reviewed a lot of evidence. they know things the president presumably does not know about what other witnesses like michael flynn may have said during his cooperation with the special counsel. so you don t go into an interview and think you can have a man to man showdown when you don t know what the other side has. there s a no win scenario for the president by going into a meeting like that. let me play one piece of sound. this is from congressman trey gowdy. he is blaming the deputy attorney general rod rosenstein for what he sees as bob mueller s overreach. fear that jurisdiction may wander a bit. i think it already has. it has already wandered a little bit but i would not blame bob mueller. i would blame whoever drafted the jurisdiction and the chart per empowered him. if you look at it, it says matters that may arise from the investigation. what in the heck does that mean? is that a bank robbery in topeka, kansas? and that came from rod rosenstein? yes, ma am. what s the root of the message? is that another example of trying to get out ahead and weaken the mueller investigation? i think so. if there is an obstruction charge or a money laundering charge or something that arises out of the investigation but is not directly related to the russia part of the investigation, then you may have trump and some of his supporters in the white house and in congress saying, wait a minute. this was something the special counsel was not even supposed to look at and because his direction was so poorly drafted and vague, he was able to, as representative gowdy said, wander into these areas. but that s necessary for an investigation like this. we don t know what evidence the special counsel will uncover during the investigation until the investigation is over. so you have to give the special counsel some leeway to pursue those leads and there s always a check. always a check by deputy attorney general who can say no. don t go there. thank you so much. coming up next, a search scandal that has now turned into an ethics investigation. have you heard about this nashville mayor s story? 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