It all centers on this house in yemen and this person to let him with our. Ill guarantee you until the person in this room that has actually been to that house. This is bin ladens Operations Center in yemen. It was where he controlled office spots from. I went there because i get documentary for pbs, and we did a documentary on nsa and 9 11. So i went to that house and we saw it. That was where the first from 9 11 came from. Is are all issues that feed into judge pauleys decision, the comments of the director of nsa. This is the key excuse for having the Metadata Program. What happened was in december 1999, the in is a have been listening to this house for years because it was a house where bin laden would call to set up is terrorist operations. Its the house with the impact the u. S. Embassy, the uss cole and so forth. The nsa was listening to that house. December 1999 they picked up a communication and it was from afghanistan and it said, send Khalid Almihdhar to call them for the me
In a house that is owned by an fbi informant. Then his wife was pregnant in yemen. So he caught her calder fairly often. The nsa was eavesdropping and everything in that house, everything going in and coming out. So what happened was that the cia wanted information from that house. It wanted to say, well, give us the transcripts, give us with these people saying. The nsa would not give the cia and the information that they were picking up from the house. They went up three times asking senior officials at the nsa for that information and they would not give it to a. The cia is a building near on a listening post the communications announced. The problem is, theyre only getting the downlink. They dont have the satellite, so they are not getting the uplink of the communication. So they go back to the nsa and say, look, you know, we get the downlink. We have our listening posts. Can you just give us the appalling . Tsa says no well, that is the that is one of the key issues right now. Thi
It includes comments by Edward Snowden. Imagine a place of people dedicating their lifes to others. This is an object in a cruel experiment and over us to supervise this is a dictatorship. A kind of north korea like situation. [laughter] welcome. [ applause ] c1 welcome to this extraordinary debate on state surveillance. My name is rudyard griffiths. Its my privilege to act as the organizer of this semiannual series and to once again serve as your moderator. I want to start tonights proceedings by welcoming the north american Wide Television and Radio Audience tuning into this debate everywhere, from the canadian broadcasting corporation, to cpac, canadas Public Affairs channel, to cspan across the continental u. S. A warm hello also to the thousands of people watching this debate live right now on the internet, on theintercept. Com and munkdebates. Com. Its terrific to have you as virtual participants in tonights proceedings. And finally, hello to you, the over 2500 people whove once
Ubiquitous, more and if were not carrying it on ourselves personally, nor were being watched by somebody else who has a reason to do that for us. When it becomes that ubiquitous, when the chair becomes smart, the water glass becomes smart, is it useful to think of that as Information Technology or is this a new state of being and how does hewlettpackard make any money off this . The question is, who controls all of the information, whether its individuals, the government, the companies themselves. I think we have time for one more question. Before we take this one, i want to remind all participants thats meeting has been on the record so everything said will be held against you in a court of law. Yes, in the white jacket. Im emmy with the Johns Hopkins applied physics lab. Can you talk about the educational of policymakers on the state of the science and scientists on the state of policy and how to make sure theres not a gap between the two communities. Good final question. Im less int
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