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to start at 8:30 in the morning. we're not sure of the delay. when i checked with the attorneys, they were still waiting for the arraignment to start. the two men are louie sanchez and marvin norwood. we spoke to the attorney. they said a family did not go to the courtroom but instead a legal representative is in court today but he did talk about the attorney's reaction. >> here you have, however, i think a real breakthrough. i think some of the evidence will come out this morning that, in fact, they have the perpetrators of this crime and so forth. so the family's reaction is, you k...

well, good morning to you. i'm dave clark. >> i'm maureen naylor. tori campbell has the day off. it's monday, july 25th. investors are worried about the lack of progress on raising the u.s. debt ceiling. pam cook has more on this after both sides said they hoped to have this resolved before the markets open. we know that didn't happen. >> no. and when the markets do open, it will be a big indication of what happened. the dow jones is down to 86 points, to 12,595. that's come down from the earlier drop of 100 points right at the sound of the opening bell. overnight all of the major ...