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>> host: do they use those today at all? yet so they use copper sulfate in organic gardening but they used toxic chemicals not only to control insects but to take care of the diseases that people had. you would in just up that almost be worse than what you were trying to get rid of yourself with modern insecticides came about essentially in world war ii. ddt was probably the first one and it was very effective. we tested our soldiers with that in the sicilian campaign in europe. we dusted millions and millions of germans and italians and holocaust survivors after the war to prevent t...

who was rachel carson? >> guest: rachel carson was first of all of course the scientist for the fish and wildlife department of interior. she was in author, a gifted writer. i read silent spring when i was in college and i read the crm bus and they captivated me. she was a mesmerizing writer and able to take scientific, dry scientific information and put it in a vibrant and colorful words that just captivate you. >> host: was she well known before silent spring came out in 1962? >> guest: she had "the sea around us," which was a pretty big seller. that is what got me interested in ma...

who was rachel carson? >> guest: rachel carson was first of all of course the scientist for the fish and wildlife department of interior. she was in author, a gifted writer. i read silent spring when i was in college and i read the crm bus and they captivated me. she was a mesmerizing writer and able to take scientific, dry scientific information and put it in a vibrant and colorful words that just captivate you. >> host: was she well known before silent spring came out in 1962? >> guest: she had "the sea around us," which was a pretty big seller. that is what got me interested in ma...