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frontrunners for the 2024 republican nomination, even though only one of them is officially in the race. ahead, a veteran gop strategist explains why desantis is stealing some of trump's thunder. meanwhile, election deniers are celebrating after three states pulled out of a program to protect voter rolls with two more states considering joining them. we'll explain this latest development. plus, we'll go through the changes norfolk southern is making following the derailment of two of its trains in ohio. and we'll ask transportation secretary pete buttigieg about the federal res...

are tense again. thank you so much for joining us this morning. thanks to all of you for getting up "way too early" on this thursday morning. "morning joe" starts right now. a self-loathing has swept our country. joe and kamala even say america is racist. this is not about identity politics. i don't believe in that, and i don't believe in glass ceilings either. strong and proud, not weak and woke. that's the america i see. [ applause ] >> the only challenger so far to donald trump in the 2024 presidential race kicks off her campaign. during that speech, nikki haley took a dig at ...

saying no laws existing or proposed could have ) what happened yesterday in nashville. >> such a deeply offensive thing to say. it really is. if this had been a muslim shooter, we would have seen a thousand bills proposed for more things for homeland security to do. willie, the idea that every time a horrific tragedy like this happens, if you even talk about trying to do something to make our school safer for our children, people say, "oh, there's nothing you can do." they say you can do something for everything else but this. that's why you find ourselves in a position where our chi...

early" with us on this thursday morning. "morning joe" starts right now. this isn't a question of vindication. it is not a question, as i stated before, about revenge this is a -- my position is that, at the end of the day, donald trump needs to be held accountable for his dirty deeds if, in fact, that's the way that the facts play out >> that was donald trump's former fixer after wrapping up his testimony to a manhattan grand jury >> by the way, former fixer who went to jail, actually got convicted and went to jail for being part of this scheme that donald trump is now being inve...

>> and another loss for the trump movement sweeping across the state. >> thanks to all of you for getting up "way too early" with us on this wednesday morning a jammed back "morning joe" starts now. on a basis that every single pundit and legal analyst said there is no case. >> 34 felony counts of falsifying business records in the first degree. >> he knew there was no case. >> it was a felony to falsify business records with intent to defraud. >> everybody said this is not really an indictment, there's nothing here. >> these are felony crimes in new york city state. >> my lawyers ...