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Color of authority of the president. that may or may not have concerned the state department. so what do you want to know from them? what they've seen or heard the - president do. look, when you talk about rudy giuliani, he wasn't working for the government. he's the president's private lawyer. >> but he says the state department asked him to go. do you believe it? >> right. no, i don't. and i think it's mixing apples with oranges and trying to make it look good, but it really isn't good. you know, you would think that given all the hoopla about russian interference in the previous presidentia...

Department asked him to go. do you believe him? >> no, i don't. and i think it's mixing apples with oranges and trying to make it look good but it really isn't good. you know, you would think that given all the hoopla about russian interference in the previous presidential election, that the president would be very careful this time around and not use or try to use a foreign leader, but he apparently learned nothing. if you read the transcript, i mean, anybody can read the transcript and you can see what the president was trying to do and say and he was obsessed with biden and wanted to, you k...

Security clearances. he's going to continue to say terrible things about the president and so will anyone else that wants to, that doesn't have security clearances, so they're mixing apples and orange s here. maria: well it's interesting because what was the effort in july of 2016 to stop donald trump from becoming president? i mean, so they just completely forget what has just taken place in terms of the fbi, the doj, the dnc, the clinton camp, colluding together, to try to stop who america voted for. >> well i think this goes back to a point that you made earlier , maria. it's just because i...

Can't remember your exact words continue fronting putin. in what universe is that happening. >> steve, eve steve let me ask you a question. if the president as you say is the ultimate swamp drainer like the beacon of swamp draining in the universe he knows michael cohen's number. why wouldn't he call up his personal lawyer and fixer and say hey, pal stop sell access. >> do you think he was aware of the details? i mean do you really think that? this man running the united states government. >> what we know you know who told me he was aware of some of the details involving the the llc rudy giuli...

I mean do you really think that? this man running the united states government. >> what we know you know who told me he was aware of some of the details involving the the llc rudy giuliani. rudy giuliani has been all over tv the last few weeks telling me that donald trump reimbursed through this retainer essential consultants llc. there is a direct connection with knowledge of the payments between the president. >> no. >> and his. >> but you're mixing apples and injures that's preelection. >> we don't know what's in the fruit basket. >> that's preelection problem fixing or whatever we want to ...