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Reported extensively here. he says don't testify, it is that or an orange jump suit. there is a whole exchange with the president where he tried to have the president to sit down for a mock interview to prove he was incapable of telling the truth. the president says i will be a real good witness. and he said you're not a good witness, mr. president, i'm afraid i just can't help you, the next morning, dowd resigned. maybe that is showing that he is less likely than ever to testify for the special council. >> let's just talk about the denies for a minute, i think it is important to say that bob

President through a mock interview to see if he is capable of testifying to special counsel robert mueller without perjuring himself. woodward reports that trump fails the test. and what's even more remarkable is that dowd and trump's current attorney, jay sekulow, then go and re-enact the scene to robert mueller himself in an attempt to convince mueller that trump is incapable of getting through an interview. according to woodward, mueller isn't convinced and responds, quote, i need the president's testimony. and then mueller says, i want to know what was his intent on comey. i want to see if...

Book. >> reporter: dave and christine, this explosive, new book from legendary journalist bob woodward goes inside the trump white house with woodward detailing extraordinary measures that senior aides have taken to circumvent the president, to, in effect, step in and stop what they saw as president trump's most -- and this is a quote -- dangerous impulses, including stealing and hiding documents right off his oval office desk. there are also some stunning revelations about the russia investigation. woodward recounts a dramatic session at the white house in which trump's then personal attorney...

It's evidenced in his tweets, and it's supported by what you see in that book. and so it's disturbing from the standpoint of his defense, but it's more disturbing from the standpoint of the fact that the guy is president of the united states, and we're having this conversation. >> but anderson, here's the odd thing. all of his lawyers do not want him to testify. the reason that john dowd quit was because after this mock interview he said to the president, you can't -- i can't as your lawyer let you sit before the special counsel. but the president himself still believes that if he went mano a ...

>> so all of this is happening, jack, while we are learning more about what is happening behind the scenes thanks to bob woodward's new book. in it woodward reports, as he said, the president's then attorney, john dowd, held a mock interview with president trump to convince him not to testify in the russia investigation and that it went so badly that he was convinced trump would perjury himself. dowd allegedly told the president and this is a quote, don't testify, it is either that or an orange jumpsuit. i mean that is as stark as it gets, if you are a lawyer telling your client not to testify...