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there are some individuals that say we need to get the government out of the marriage business. there are some people say we only need to recognize civil unions as john mentioned. what i would say there any of those legislators, putt forth a bill that abolishes marriage in the united states and makes everything civil unions. i don t think we re going to have much success during that. i couldn t see democrats or republicans putting forth a bill like that. given the reality we re in, given the reality of marriage in the united states as an institution that excludes gay individuals we re fighting for full marriage equality. host: we go to massachusetts from an independent caller. hi there. caller: i would like to make a statement more than a question. i m a gay man in massachusetts. i really don t care one way or the other about the words, civil union or marriage. if civil unions afforded all of the same rights that the word marriage does, i wouldn t care what you call i ....