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CNN Newsroom With Poppy Harlow-20151121-20:07:00

number of cities who joined jihad. what makes brussels so vulnerable? >> it's the poverty, the north african immigrant population has been marginalized over the years. belgium doesn't have a particularly strong government, central government. there's not very good coordination between the police. but, you know, at the end of the day, just the poverty and dislocation of these people, and of course, the wars in syria and iraq and this easy transit of people across turkey, greece, and into europe, and getting this battle training. and then, thirdly, i would add, the availability of weapons. when i used to work in brussels and this part of the world, you just couldn't get automatic weapons. and this is something new since the bakken wars and opened up the borders. >> absolutely. and i want to bring in stephan here as well. because what we just saw happen here is both the lower and the upper court house here in the

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Legal View With Ashleigh Banfield-20150424-16:04:00

the group mostly pakistan is -- they were sending a lot of money to pakistan for attacks there in support of al qaeda and other terror groups there. it's not a group without means, so it was the italians belief very credible planning process going on for an attack in italy. was it really going to be the vatican? at the moment they're saying probably. >> let me bring in paul to weigh in. this begs the question, how does italy rank in terms of terror cells and those looking to do wrong? i mean where are they operating there? >> italy has a significant radicalization problem like many other european countries, like france, like germany, like the u.k., they're very worried about people going off to syria. there's a significant kind of arab immigrant population in italy, north african immigrant population, so all the sort of trends we've seen throughout europe, we also see in italy up

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