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Will try to establish a working relationship, as well. >> yeah, listen, kaitlan, kind of feels like yesterday. but talk to me about how this white house is trying to avoid the comparisons to trump's meeting with putin. where he stood on the stage next to him and said i don't see why it wouldn't be him. completely, so capitulating to -- to putin. >> yeah. i don't think that they're concerned that this summit will be anything like that. but i think they want to make sure that it is nothing like what happened in helsinki three years ago. and, don, that was the last time we saw a u.s. president me...

Trying to coopt the justice department and get it to legitimize election fraud theories. this is one startling example that the committee's investigators -- remember, there are three at homeland security -- excuse me, house oversight, senate judiciary and then of course the inspector general. they have obtained these types of communications. very eyebrow-raising so you can only imagine how this has incentivized investigators to continue to dig because clearly what we've seen is that the white house was determined to bring the justice department into this plan to try to legitimize claims that m...

When president biden brings up belarus, putin is going to bring up some grievance about what the u.s. has done. that's diplomacy. there will be grown-ups in the room on our side for the first time in five years, and they will work it out. >> and for putin, this is going to be reverting to having to deal with someone who actually functions as president of the united states, which he was relieved from having to do for four years. >> yes. i mean, lawrence, as you talked about many times, we have no idea what transpired between trump and putin over the last four years. notes weren't published. you...

Believe me, when president biden brings a belarus, you know, putin is going to bring up some grievance that he has about what the u.s. has done. that is diplomacy. and they will be grown-ups in the room on our side for the first time in five years. and they will work it out. >> and for putin this is going to be reverting to having to deal with someone who actually functions as president of the united states. which he was relieved from having to do for four years. >> yes. i mean, lawrence, have you -- you've talked about this multiple times, we have no idea what transpired between trump and put...

Reciprocity, eye for eye. when biden brings up belarus, putin will bring up a grievance he has about what the u.s. has done. that's diplomacy. will be grown-ups in the room on our side for the first time in five years and they will work it out. >> and for putin, this is going to be reverting to having to deal with someone who actually functions as president of the united states. which he was relieved from having to do for four years. >> yes. as you talked about many times, we have no idea what transpired between trump and putin last four years. notes weren't published. now that biden is presid...