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Her. >> they had to recover the documents because they were classified documents. also he was no longer entitled to have them. the affidavit was very heavily redacted. there was a part that established possible cause even though it was redacted, we know from the headings there was possible cause that there were documents that needed to be recovered there, and there also is this obstruction side of it. both of them potentially carry significant criminal penalties. but the details of the investigation really matter as to the former president in terms of what his knowledge was, who was involved i...

Also was prlt records that were retained by the former president at his residence, that he was no longer entitled to have. so we have both pieces of that. look, the affidavit was -- that was released was heavily redacted. it's clear there was a part of it that established probable cause, even though it was redacted we know from the headings there was probable cause, information demonstrating probable cause that there were documents that needed to be recovered there, and there also is this obstruction side of it. both of them potentially, potentially carry significant criminal penalties. but th...

Not but if they somehow could establish that, it would be a clear violation of the act and something about that kind of destruction that suggests it's more than just tearing it into two pieces and throwing it on the floor. it's more than just disregarding the law. maybe more purposeful, leaning more towards the obstruction side of the house but again, a lot of facts that would need to be proven in order to establish those sorts of things. >> absolutely. good to see you, jennifer, thank you. the eyes of the west on massive military exercises between russia and belarus. what ten days of drills...

Texts from his private cell phone from january 6th. complainy adds, quote, do not be misled, trump is trying to hide what happened on january 6th and the delay and obstruct. we will not let that happen. the truth will come out. over on the obstruction side, the committee announcing that a vote will take place tuesday to find mark meadows in contempt of congress and refer him for potential criminal charges for failing to comply with the subpoena for his testimony. but other key witnesses are cooperating en masse, also on capitol hill today stop the steal rally arguer, ali alexander. he says he ...

Is still whether on the obstruction side or on the actual content side of what took place, the dems are still building a case. as you know, part of building this case is also going to be a public component to this in terms of trying to bring the american public on board in greater numbers in support of this effort. that's one of adam schiff's and nancy pelosi's goals. there will be a whole public component. that is another reason we're not seeing today on the house floor articles of impeachment being voted upon. >> exactly, david. ross, do you see this move by kupperman as an attempt from kupp...