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about this agreement. but his primary audience is actually going to be that undecided swing voter in the middle, and really try to sell it to that voter. >> right, and chris hayes, this is a strange thing for biden. is that the fundamentals of the economy are good, and yet people feel bad. and so he's constantly in this position of trying to sell reality to people who are sort of defying reality with their sort of feel, their sort of feelings about things. >> to lawrence's point, i was a little surprised, precisely for the reason you enunciated. okay, we nade it. like not a speech gi...

principal on this kind of case. that's coming up later. we will learn things. we will fact check. i invite you to stick around for that. that's later. the speech you may have heard about is landing tonight around 7:00 p.m. eastern, inside of an hour. president biden's first ever address from the oval office. we have heard him from the white house before. this is a thing we in journalism and white house junkies keep track of. this is in the views of the biden team, a positive that they are summoning the grandeur of an oval office address, the first several years in to talk about bre...

These wars are a disaster. >> he could have gotten out a long time ago he said at the time. tonight we have to learn from the hasty decision to get out of iraq too soon and he made the argument that we need to plan to stay in afghanistan indefinitely. this was an odd speech for a few reasons. what precipitated this? also, nobody knows what he really announced tonight in terms of what's going to change. we have some suspicions and questions, but we don't know what's different now. we also don't know why he's completely abandoned all his previous arguments for the exact opposite of his current p...

Are weary of all these military engagements. more resisting to military engagements six years in, seeing the world as chaotic as it is, now africa, the middle east, and beyond. it's true, i don't believe people are clamoring to go to war. however, the idea the president goes to west point and says we have never been stronger? that doesn't pass the test, forget on our declining influence around the globe. it was an odd speech and it was not well received and it didn't surprise me at all given its tenor and tone. >> bob, what did you make of the speech? whether you look at the intervention in sy...

Incapable of moving the needle of public opinion on syria? we asked karl rove. the numbers aren't good. >> and they are not going to be good. look, if you do what he did which is allow your secretary of state to go out and say moral obscenity and look ready to go and you fly off for ten days, change your mind and go to congress and spend ten days making laps around sweden and russia it doesn't work. the numbers moved a little bit. i saw data that indicated it went from the low 30s to the high 30s. that's ephemeral. it was an odd speech. you know, i'm making the case for war and then i'm making...