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The Saturday Show with Jonathan Capehart

lame-duck? the drama. but notice what she did not do, for all her grandstanding, she did not try to remove johnson from the speakership today, and gave no timeline for when she might bring her motion to vacate to the floor, still, she -- speaker johnson is in a pickle. he cannot seem to govern or get anything done without democratic votes. ic votes. joining me now is the former department of homeland security chief of staff, miles taylor, the author of blowback, a warning to save democracy from trump's revenge. also with me, the msnbc contributor, president and ceo of voter latino. so, miles, ntg now has two cosponsors to vacate, but they have not triggered it yet. what has that signaled to you? >> it signals to me that the same republicans who fomented

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All In With Chris Hayes

it's just a central part of what donald trump stands for and how he and his movement pursued political power. miles taylor served in the trump administration is a national security official. he resided unit 2019. he sensed left the republican party. he's author of blowback, a warning to save democracy from the next trump. he joins me now. miles, i want to talk to someone who was from the world of conservative and republican politics, because every time that i've talked to folks in that world who themselves have come out against trump or opposed trump, the stories they tell me about the proximity of this kind of -- it's one thing if people are mean to you, or say nasty things to. that's just life. but something more than that. the stories i've heard are pretty chilling. i wonder what you think of the general thesis, that this kind of -- a little bit sort of invisible force really does exert some real pressure on the, sort of, basic shape of this context. >> of course it does. i remember something that alex vindman wants told me after his

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The Interview Tina Brown

being somewhat inscrutable then you are blathering out your feelings which can lead you into the most difficult for us of blowback. i guess she had that moment after diana died where she had to wrestle with how much to say and how much to relate and a country that seems to want more or most of the social media emotion than she was perhaps willing to give. that was the one moment for the queen when it was no longer enough to be, just to represent, that people wanted her to emote and she found it very difficult because she does not like doing that. it is easier for william and kate because they are much more modern people who have a much more on the surface emotional life, but you do too much of it and you are going to lose all of your mystique.

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The Interview

mystique to them. i suspect that william and kate will be much more like the european monarchy. i hope that they understand the power of the royal silence that the queen really has shown us works, frankly. because there are not any boomerangs if you don't say anything, and people might complain that you are boring, but long term, and it is about long term, you are better off being somewhat inscrutable then you are blathering out your out your feelings which can lead you into the most difficult for us of blowback. i guess she had that moment after diana died where she had to wrestle with how much to say and how much to relate and a country that seems to want more or most of the social media emotion than she was perhaps willing to give. that was the one moment for the queen when it was no longer enough to be,

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The Interview

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