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[cheers and applause] >> many of flyovers, gillian turner, rubbed some people in the wrong way, here is what i thought, fox and cnn carried it live, msnbc not only carried it but ripping on what he might say, was there a media overreaction? >> yes, and i think this was an instance where anticipation and anxiety surrounding the events was a lot worse than the event turned out to be, i think the bite, the bar from the media was much bigger than bite, there wasn't a military parade, i think that's what people were all up and arms about prior to event itself. >> any president could have given the ...

Of disgust that exists towards the media within the coalition of the right would be just as strong, he just leans into it a lot more and makes the arguments a lot more personal because these are relationships with journalists many of whom he's known in the new york media market for years, and that makes it a more personal activity. howard: just briefly, kristina, "the new york times" have trouble being perceived as fair when its publisher has issued this scathing indictment of president trump? >> no matter what i say, people are going to say it's not fair, and they can say the same thing about...

In fact, i think that the level of disgust that exists towards the media within the coalition of the right would be just as strong, he just leans into it a lot more and makes the arguments a lot more personal because these are relationships with journalists many of whom he's known in the new york media market for years, and that makes it a more personal activity. howard: just briefly, kristina, "the new york times" have trouble being perceived as fair when its publisher has issued this scathing indictment of president trump? >> no matter what i say, people are going to say it's not fair, and t...

And also fellow at new america and regular contributor to the "new york times" opinion section. and president trump as i mentioned is in tokyo. he landed there just a few hours ago after a combative week to say the least in washington, d.c. where a constitutional crisis continues. this morning the president finds himself again on the losing side of a battle with congress. his latest plan to build a wall on the u.s.-mexico border partially blocked late last night by a federal judge in california. who says that congress has absolute control over federal expenditures even when that control may fr...

The border to the other. >> it's sunday, january 13th, and bill barr is not the only one haunted by our tapes this weekend. >> if there's a concrete wall in front of you, go through it. >> up with us this morning, jill, a new america fellow and regular contributor to the new york times opinion section. two potentially game changing headlines back to back could put the spotlight back on the president's relationship with vladimir putin. on this, the 23 rd day of the government shutdown. the longest in history. . the post reporting that president trump concealed details of his meeting with putin ...