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They know the arbitrator who is assigned is going to do something. >> the arbitration conversation is really about disagreement whereas i think her lawyer is making this a much bigger conversation. it's not just this question of did -- was it signed about it president, it is also the question of has michael koen by making the statements said things that have nulified the agreement? it's really a lot broader. >> i think he's right to and i think anderson knows this, but my guess is that there is documentary evidence that they don't want out. otherwise, they would not be fighting this. >> that's...

The way and keep minds and heads level about what's really going on here. the point is every time you pursue the truth with donald trump, every time you try to set up the facts to establish what is actually going on, you are attacked in this way. i think that's what he's standing up to. i don't like that's the way things have gotten to in this country, but it's where we are. >> that's what bothers me about it. you can never criticize someone for speaking their mind and telling the truth. it's kind of fascinating to see what brennan actually believes. but i can't skip the sense of this is anoth...

So it just wasn't talked about. i think the president is now facing the reality that there is really no good way out at this moment. this investigation is moving like burning wood toward the white house, and as gloria mentioned before, there's a subpoena to the trump organization. there's the questions that mueller wants to ask. he now knows that mccabe had written memos, and his legal team, in addition to giving him false promises, have probably also told him -- i mean they probably made it clear that he could get into trouble with this interview, that he can't talk his way out of it the way ...

Look, these guys were out to get me with the dodgy dossier and everything else, that by tweeting this, and, you know, i don't deny brennan's right to say whatever he wants to say. but in a way, it does kind of give donald trump more ammunition. >> well, and this is the classic trump double standard. we're talking about people using forceful words against donald trump. it is donald trump who is insulting these guys. he's been doing it for months, even at this point years. so the idea that it's not fair for people to use strong language to criticize him is absurd. >> i think you have to buckle u...

General in new jersey. did you question whether your investigator's personal political beliefs would color their investigative abilities or their judgment because that's what -- >> that's what he's saying, right. i agree. i think that is the allegation here. i've been a local prosecutor in new york. i was a federal prosecutor at the department of justice. i was a state attorney general, and i ran a police department in camden, new jersey, and i can tell you that i never knew the political affiliation of a single officer or agent that i worked with. you know, it wasn't an issue, and i'm sure i ...