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Being physical meaning me he said i am going to insight this whole place. i cannot incite a riot in order to save you. he joins me now from baltimore. you re surrounded by angry protesters. the cop says he can t protect you. for you nervous? yeah. i think you d be stupid not to be nervous. the part of that that was so interesting to me is that the police were terrify ofd doing their jobs and as we reported over the past week, it seems like the reason they were terrified is because the mayor held them back. you know the idea that the police were outnumbered and outflanked and outgunned is lunacy. we saw their weapons. we saw how much nonlethal force they 245d. it seems has though they had been told time and time again to just stand down to let it happen that unless they absolutely had to respond, to not respond. i think it s one of the reasons you saw this go on for so long ....
We went to the mondawmin corridor. they just outnumbered us and outflanked us. bill: that was yesterday. there is an entirely possible newer the city of baltimore today and they are hopefully as best they can learning from the mistakes of the past 18 hours or so not to be repeated today. will that happen? bill gavin is the former assistant director of the f.b.i. how is it if you are running a city or even a state for that matter that you can find yourself in a situation where you are outnumbered and outflanked? can you explain that? where civil disobedience is permitted. civil disobedience will prevail. the actions of the police, the ....
It will all be over. let me set the scene. we are on northwest avenue. you can look up the street and see state police out in riot gear. armored cars on the streets. all of the debris from the violence that happened yesterday. yesterday, this was a city under siege. the police commissioner saying at one point they were out numbered and outflanked. groups of rioters looted a cvs. they went to a check cashing store and liquor store. they threw bottles at police for hours. breaking off in smaller groups. fire crews were challenged as they were trying to put out fires after rioters came out and cut their hoses. the baltimore mayor stephanie ....
Overnight in the midst of the chaos she she tried to clarify her comments. i never said nor would i ever say we are giving people space to destroy our city. my words should not be twisted. reporter: under fire the police department. tear gas. reporter: how did the situation get so out of control? stepping into the firing line a group of religious leaders, christian and muslim, who joined hands to drive the crowd back. reporter: did you step in because you felt like the police were losing control? i felt like not losing it they never had it. reporter: did the police give the street thug too much space? commissioner should they have given protesters that much room and latte today over the last few days? i don t think we gave them much room or latitude. they outnumbered us and outflanked us. we needed more resources there. back out live here in baltimore at city hall there s also concern and criticism, why is it that the curfew was announced yesterday and yet it doesn t ....
Of mr. gray s funeral day, each group was intending to kill and take out a police officer. commissioner, should you have given the protesters that much room that much latitude over the last two days and did that in any way kind of i don t think we gave them much room or latitude. on saturday the protests were peaceful for the vast majority of time until at 6:00 you had a group splinter and make its way south. they didn t get reckless until the northeast corner of the baseball stadium. then started to act up. we moved resources to take care of the larger crowd, to address them. we did and took them to jail. we prepared for mon dommon corridor. i was there. i saw our reaction and i gave them direction to advance on them. they just outnumbered us and outflanked us. we needed more resources there. ....