Iraq i would leave now if i was an american any part in southwest asia i would leave immediately thank you for that moment mom abroad is joining us there from tehran appreciate your analysis today mark kimmitt is the former assistant secretary of state for Political Military Affairs under president george w. Bush she was also diffuse director of plans and strategy at centcom and he joins us now from washington d. C. Good to have you with us so youre the perfect position to try to analyze where this may go with the strategic a military and security implications of this it seems to be very finely balanced at the moment iran is threatening to tell the i. C. Of the United States has carried out this strike and says it reserves the right for further action as will we in a rapidly escalating phases some have suggested today an open dick the russian of war whats your assessment. Well i think we are at a point of escalation right now and i would hope that both sides take a deep breath i dont t
Want to know the real numbers we want to know whos supporting in the pens and who smoke and theres no way the kingdom of spain can agree on such a referendum like the u. K. Did it for scotland or the so we dont think were better than any other nation but were not less than any other nation but the e. U. Know that the problem with referenda and i think the bracks and station shows that the independents moment its called supports that as well is that people may change their mind the circumstances may change. Are you sure that if you have internationally recognised referendum and if the majority of catalan say no to independence is that going to put the issue to rest once and for all. Not for me or people like me but we will have a result and we will accept it obviously. The same thing if there is a yes we expect the spanish authorities and the International Community especially the Spanish Government to do what they didnt do on october the 1st 2017 when such a vote was held and they did
Understand neither the current cut on authorities nor the spain authorities consider it illegal or free and fair for you it wasnt free and fair because of the Police Presence for them it was illegal as far as the results of concerned anything over 90 percent of people who came to the polls they supported the independence cost as far as the results are concerned do you consider them legitimate or it is it more like a legacy or every torkel issue for you it was an enormous wonderful feat bringing millions of people to the polls enabling them to vote despite police disruption and brutality and its something the people of the loony achieved and the government which was in place than helped the people to do to vote freely for the future thats the way we think things should be done perhaps we didnt have the strength to fulfill the mandate of the people and thats why we. Need International Complicity and support to convince the government of spain the this is the sensible reasonable way of do
Anything over 90 percent of people who came to the polls they supported the independence cost as far as the result the country do you consider them illegitimate there or it is it more like a legacy or every torkel issue for you it was an enormous wonderful feat bringing millions of people to the polls enabling them to vote despite police disruption and brutality and its something the people of catalonia achieved and the government which was in place then helped the people to do to vote freely for the future now thats the way we think things should be done perhaps we didnt have the strength to fulfill the mandate of the people and thats why we need International Complicity and support to convince the government of spain the this is the sensible reasonable way of doing things the democratic way because. The use of force is not helping people in catalonia we believe that the majority of people but its not the majority lets test it and lets find out the people in catalonia want to vote and
Translated like that in english so that you understand that im part of a government the Catalan Government is still the independent government belonging to recognise state but still we do have a minister like lenders and germany or other governments also have. Yes we been seeing how the Spanish Government especially the ministry of Foreign Affairs. Brady has been trying to stop us from making any foreign action we think were entitled to that because. In 21st century you go to be competitive and have a place in the world otherwise you wont prosper im sure would agree that the lonnies know its like any other city in spain this dispute has been plaguing this country for 3 centuries and if you look at the recent polls its not evident that the majority of couple one support independence i wonder how do you frame this issue right there is it still about full of flood. Independence or do you stop way out selfdetermination and the right to vote the regardless of which way the boat goes from a