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FOXNEWS MediaBuzz June 4, 2024 16:47:00

In his impeachment trial, he wasn t convicted. justice department hasn t brought that charge, so who decides whether he has committed insurrection in me? you? if a single justice official in? michigan said otherwise. governor newsom said we re not doing that here in california. so what s being created is this untenable patchwork of rules as we approach this 2024 election, and that s why the supreme court has to get involved. and how they choose to go about it is going to be very interesting. howard: well, it s not me or you, but we do talk. [laughter] have the new york times or washington post editorial boards taken the stand against barring colorado and maine voters for voting for the are republican front-runner? i hadn t seen that, the washington post mantra democracy dies in darkness, yet i think everyone whether they want to say it out loud or not knows we are barreling towards the chaos. if what has happened remains the way it is. because when we remove the right ....

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MSNBC Deadline White House June 4, 2024 22:37:00

It s the one that says that the 14th amendment is not self-executing, because the disqualification in section 3 of the 14th amendment is not as black and white as other qualifications for the presidency in other places of the constitution. it s not like being 35 years of age or being a natural-born citizen. it involves some judgment and certainly evaluation of factual circumstances. in that way, the very fact, if the 14th amendment were self-executing in the way that the colorado plaintiffs argue that it is, you can see how from that you could have a patchwork of different results all across our 50 states. one could argue i think fairly persuasively that that would be a logistical and electricity ral and political mess that the framers never intended. they must have intended that congress would have had to enact something or, for example, someone would have had to be ....

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MSNBC Jose Diaz-Balart Reports June 4, 2024 16:38:00

Their presidents are. and if congress makes laws, they need to be clear and not the interpretation of state judges or state election officials for that matter. more specifically they make two technical arguments, donald trump was neither charged with nor convicted of insurrection, which is what the 14th amendment, the basis for his exclusion from the colorado ballot is all about. and as president, he wasn t an officer of the united states, a very fine linguistic point that is much under debate because there are other positions that are named specifically within the 14th amendment that would be disqualified for insurrection had there been an insurrection to claim here. so, what is going to happen now is we will see if the supreme court takes this case up. a lot of legal experts think they will. in part because what we re seeing now is a patchwork of decisions around a very thorny constitutional issue being made in real time as ballots are being decided and printed and soon there after v ....

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MSNBC Morning Joe June 4, 2024 11:03:00

That s from the trump campaign. the supreme court hasn t announced whether it ll accept the case. joining us now, conservative attorney george conway, and andrew weissmann, host of prosecuting donald trump. good morning to you both. andrew, let me start with you. this appeal up to the supreme court, where does this go from here? do you suspect the supreme court will hear any of this? i do think that they will take this. i think it is one where the government is not going to oppose and is going to think it is appropriate. as we know, there s another case in maine that will bubble up, as well. this is one where if you re not going to have a patchwork of decisions within the states with no supreme court guidance, i see the supreme court taking it. you know, this is one where donald trump actually has a fairly good chance, i think, of prevailing, but you wouldn t know it from the brief that he ....

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MSNBC Deadline White House June 4, 2024 21:05:00

They will take it. but it s possible they lay out what the procedures are that states must follow if they are going to find somebody cannot be on the ballot. or they could disagree with the procedures that colorado filed. then we re back to square one, where we could have renewed applications. so they could also find in ways that that possibility is not open to what they could say it needs to be in congress that asks. there needs to be enacting legislation. but there are a whole range of possibilities here that could lead to additional state litigation about trump and whether he s qualified. let s talk about that range of possibilities. because last night our colleague asked if it we could end up with a patchwork of decisions. trump on the ballot in some states and not in others. here s what she said. that could happen. every state has different laws. ....

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