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They are human beings like we all are. they are going to know that these other matters are pending. i don't know right now if any of these trials happen in 2024. if they do, it's going to be a very delicate dance to make sure that they don't interfere, that this legal process doesn't interfere with his constitutional rights, you know, not only free speech but also the fact that he is candidate for president. >> ainsley: matt, what did he do that was more severe than his vice president, who also had classified documents and that was turned back over to the government. or joe biden, who was foun...

These materials. >> one other quick question. we're all reading tea leaves at this moment. mike pence was quietly cleared by the justice department for the possession of classified documents. he announced he's filed to run for president. is that significant that they have cleared that case out of the way? does that mean anything? >> i think it is in a separate course, but i think one thing it's going do is it's certainly going to help with this comparison that trump's trying to do, conflating the pence case, the biden case, hillary clinton, anything he can where the word classified documents i...

They both came forward voluntarily. and trump was obstruct difference. and still no evidence that they knew. and no evidence of any to the contrary . but the special counsel on the bipartis biden case is quiet but it looks like it is headed the same direction as the pence case. >> all right, have a great weekend. and a look at the new monthly job numbers on the 2024 campaign trail. that is next. and plus dozens of bags tossed into ravines full of human body parts.

We draw any can be between the former if you want getting cleared -- which, by the way in volume, and he answers they questions night and day, but they cleared that, you've cleared the department of justice for a long time. could that indicate they're moving forward? >> i think they're unconnected, partly baas we're talking about a volume -- just a very different volume, right? we're talking about a dozen documents in the pence case. they were discovered in january. this was still being handled by the justice department, not a special counsel, and they were looking at the calendar. a lot of ti...

Allowed by a federal magistrate judge. that is all the difference in the world. this is not a pence case. this is not a biden case, where they both mishandled classified records. that is normal. what is not normal is how trump and his supporters and allies have handled the case. >> charlie, i am struck by the fact that as of last week, president trump was still in thickness defense, i can declassified things just by saying the declassified and thanking their declassified, knowing that his legal team had received this subpoena and we're fighting it in court, effectively fighting to make sure th...