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The Lead With Jake Tapper

them some space to distance themselves now, but instead they're just falling behind him, and it's not good looking at the polls, and they say, okay, well, that's the right now. the candidates are the republic or the republican voters are supporting him. but polls are snapshots. those numbers are not gonna change unless you go out and make a daily sustained attack on donald trump or give the voters a reason to start moving towards you away from him . absolutely all republicans unified against donald trump, it actually would skew in the in their favor and cleared the field of him to potentially become, uh, has been of the republican party and take a look at this. this is trump just posted this video. of him traveling in his motorcade on his, uh as as it was remarked on twitter, rich man's perp walk, writing quote. if you are doing poorly as so many of you are, do not send anything if you're doing well, send your contribution to donald j. trump dot com. trump you know claims to be a billionaire. he's now

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The Context with Christian Fraser

courthouse. we haven't seen anything like the large protests that donald trump is hoping for, but if you people expressing their support for the former president having signs that say trump 202a. 0n the flip side of the queen, we have also seen people very vocal saying that trump had this coming, that he deserves to be held accountable, that no one else is above the law. we have seen both sides come up pit clearly, tomorrow, it will be something else altogether when the actual arrest and arraignment take place. we already know when congresswoman, marjorie taylor green is planning to come here and protest, but as a second new york is bracing itself and says it's ready for any eventuality.— and says it's ready for any eventuality. and says it's ready for any eventuali ,,, ., ., eventuality. quickly on that point, all the preparations _ eventuality. quickly on that point, all the preparations around - eventuality. quickly on that point, i all the preparations around tomorrow whether there will be a perp walk, whether there will be a perp walk, whether there will be a mug shot, all of that has been hammered out today between the district attorney's office and the secret service who are forever protecting donald trump. do we know anything about the detail? it

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and then appealed even ultimately had to handle the over michael, you have been reporting on the logistics o trump's appearance next week including the possibility of a perp walk. let me play for you and ou viewers what his lawyer had to say about that yesterday watch this >> i'm sure they will try to get every ounce of publicity that they can from the saying as far as i'm concerned perp walk, as i, said i am sur they will try to make sure tha they get some, you know, joy out of this by parading him. >> and the truth is we still don't know if that perp walk will actually happen but that kind of procedure w have to note is not out of the ordinary for someone who i accused of a white colla crime. correct? there is some reporting to suggest that trump might actually might want to be perp walk because he relishes the publicity and can use it to hi advantage? >> sure, i mean, he is playing this to his political benefits to the max i, mean we just had a new poll

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out today that shows he is jumping way ahead of ron desantis for the republica primary contests at the moment as a result of these charges look, the standard for it, as understand it in new york city criminal courts, when it is white-collar defendant indicte on felony charges. they brought, in their surrender, their briefly put i jail, handcuffed, mud shot taken, fingerprinted and then taken up by elevato to a higher floor where th courtroom is and then walked usually in cuffs to inside the courtroom. that is the perp walk. now, whether that is going t happen with donald trump's situation is far from clear. i mean, for one thing th stated official reason for having a defendant i handcuffs's until a judg weighs in on pretria conditions you know, there is the

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State of the Union With Jake Tapper and Dana Bash

like hundreds of other arrangements have done that building over the course of my career, which is you walk in. you see a judge. um you plead not guilty. you set a schedule. um and you leave. ah obviously, this is different. this has never happened before. never had secret service involved in an arraignment before 100 center street. so um, the answer that question then is i honestly don't know how this is going to go, hopefully smoothly as possible. and then we begin the battle to right this wrong because it's a it's a really it's a day that in my opinion, the rule of law in the united states has died. we're gonna get to that in a second, but just on the on the logistics do you know what time it starts? you know nothing's been nailed down yet. i think that's going to happen tomorrow. but i think sometime in the afternoon will there be a perp walk? you said you've done many of these before. most of them do have perp walks. not really not in a case like this, um, but, you know, look, i anticipate them trying to get

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but it is always been civil an this criminal. and you saw even when the trum organization went to trial las year in a criminal setting there was some twists and turn to that. but it got to trial. with just over a year. criminal cases do tend to just move, you know, more quickly and i don't think we are going to see a settlement. you can never say for sure i this but i just think it will move bit more quickly but you are going to see i every turn he is going to try every legal move in the book to delay this >> yeah, i remember even how long it took just trying to ge his irs tax statements and how he fought that all the way o up to the supreme court and ho many terms he was shot down an then appealed event ultimately had to handle them over. michael, you have been reporting on the logistics o trump's appearance next week including the possibility of a perp walk. let me play for you and ou viewers what his lawyer had to say about that yesterday watch this >> i'm sure they will try to get every ounce of publicity

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>> he's never seen a camera he has not loved. >> absolutely. >> and paid attention to jennifer, staying on a topic for a second, the new york times reports that trump watched in horror as his forme chief financial officer alle weisselberg surrendered to authorities in 2021. he told aides that he couldn't believe what they are doing to that old man and we should, note weisselber is only slightly younger tha trump, not much actually we have heard reports that the -- looking forward to that perp walk do you think this is all bravado? do you think deep down insid this man is scared of what i going to happen to him o tuesday? >> well on this i will defer t maggie haberman who has been covering him for decades now and her view is that on the on hand he is feeling full of bravado product -- he is deeply afraid. and who wouldn't be? look, there is the potential that you could go to jail. if this is in fact a felony he

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on felony charges. they brought, in their surrender, their briefly put i jail, handcuffed, mud shot taken, fingerprinted and then taken up by elevato to a higher floor where th courtroom is and then walked usually in cuffs to inside the courtroom. that is the perp walk. now, whether that is going t happen with donald trump's situation is far from clear. i mean, for one thing th stated official reason for having a defendant in handcuff 's until a judge weighs in o pretrial conditions. you know, there is the possibility of flight. and when the defendant i surrounded by a team of secret service agents, that is no likely to happen so there may be no reason to handcuff him for that perp walk but i think that donald trum will of course relish the idea to walk down that hallway in front of the cameras

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felony arrest processing which includes fingerprinting, but some rituals might actuall deviate from the norm. since the defendant after al is a former president. at the moment there are no plans for trump to have a perp walk in handcuffs. despite some reports that he actually wants that. my panel is back with me t discuss this and more. michael, you have reported o alvin bragg's office debatin whether or not standar procedures in trump and raymon would be endorsed. tell us a little bit about those conversations from you reporting, and the delicat balance both sides are tryin to strike here >> right, the secret service i obviously playing a huge rol here they had to do a site survey o the new york city courthouse and the question is, one big question is public assets to that hallway where he is brought from the elevator into the courtroom. normally that is unrestricte public access, the media has full access there.

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