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possibility of flight. and when the defendant i surrounded by a team of secret service agents, that is no likely to happen so there may be no reason to handcuff him for that perp walk but i think that donald trum will of course relish the idea to walk down that hallway in front of the cameras >> he's never seen a camera he has not loved. >> absolutely. >> and paid attention to jennifer, staying on a topic for a second, the new york times reports that trump watched in horror as his forme chief financial officer alle weisselberg to get branded t authorities in 2021. he trolled aides that he couldn't believe what they are doing to that old man. and we should, note weisselber is only slightly younger tha trump, not much actually we have heard reports that the -- looking forward to that perp walk do you think this is all bravado? do you think deep down insid
for playboy in the lead up to 202016 election. trump's lawyer said manhattan district attorney alan bragg is stretching the law and for political purposes. arguing the charges are parent list because the payment is personal and never filed with the irs or sec. >> is a something made irrespective of the campaign. there was no is it a business record ... record his own personal files. but still the exact charges trump phases are unknown. so are the details about me in handcuffs, his attorney says it is possible he could have a perp walk and get a mug shot. that mug shot could affect his presidential 2024 presidential run. if you could actually why? his campaign raised $4 million a day after he became the first u.s. president to ever be fully
that they can from the saying as far as i'm concerned perp walk, as i, said i am sur they will try to make sure tha they get some, you know, joy out of this by parading him. >> and the truth is we still don't know if that perp walk will actually happen but that kind of procedure w have to note is not out of the ordinary for someone who i accused of a white colla crime. correct? there is some reporting to suggest that trump might actually might want to be perp walk because he relishes the publicity and can use it to hi advantage? >> sure, i mean, he is playing this to his political benefits to the max i, mean we just had a new poll out today that shows he is jumping way ahead of ron desantis for the republica primary contests at the moment as a result of these charges look, the standard for it, as understand it in new york city criminal courts, when it is white-collar defendant indicte
like hundreds of other arrangements have done that building over the course of my career, which is you walk in. you see a judge. um you plead not guilty. you set a schedule. um and you leave. ah obviously, this is different. this has never happened before. never had secret service involved in an arraignment before 100 center street. so um, the answer that question then is i honestly don't know how this is going to go, hopefully as smoothly as possible. and then we begin the battle to right this wrong because it's a it's a really it's a day that in my opinion, the rule of law in the united states has died. we're going to get to that in a second, but just on the on the logistics do you know what time it starts? you know, nothing has been nailed down yet. i think that's going to happen tomorrow. but i think sometime in the afternoon will there be a perp walk? you said you've done many of these before. most of them do have perp walks. not really not in a case like this, um, but, you know, look, i anticipate them
responding to alleged crimes. i love that. he doesn't care apparently, um what? the political ramifications. maybe, in fact, i think he levied these indictments in spite of politics , because if you were really going after a political hit job, you wouldn't start with this when you start with something better, bigger, so i like that. alvin bragg has decided. i don't care that people want to see the perp walk, not giving it to him, and i don't care that republicans are going to be all outraged and offended and call this a political witch witch hunt. you know what sounds political when you call this indictment a political witch hunt when you haven't seen the charges that what that's political now you're just being a political hack. would you like to respond to that, joe? look i don't call it a witch hunt. but i do think that you know my study. buddy has left me right, but there are plenty of individuals with law degrees who are not republicans who are not conservative leaning who believe that based on the information
going to see even from the outset. i don't i don't mean to minimize and say that it's a week because i don't know what the evidence is. i don't know what the d a s office has. i'm just saying the nature of the charges strike me that way. remember that the initial charge we heard about was a misdemeanor and the only if you connected it to a federal case of election whether there was some effort to have money on a federal election campaign report that that was going to be that made it a felony that bothers me when you have to tie knot up to make it a felony, and that's why i say from a magnitude to sort of looking at it that way. i think it's i think it's it may have its issues. but these cases are not the crime. it's the cover up. right sometimes. i mean, that's exactly exactly right, and we'll see. we'll see where it goes. and i think that that we're going to be in court forever, so people need to kind of take a breath and step back because this is just the start. and if you think there's going to be a quick outcome, thank you fixed to see a perp walk. by trump across the courthouse lawn. you know, it's just not gonna happen right away. this is
to be perp walk?s? are is he going to be in handcuffs?n are they going to try and say, he can't have bail? that i >> i don't think anything dramatic like that's going to happen becaus e even if they try to , that would further solidify the notion that he is being so selectively targeted and treated differently to anyonselective in the world. i mean, you could go smack a police officer in times square, right now, knock himout out. you'll be out on bail.hu you get bail. no problem.l ben are they going to bail on a misdemeanor based on his name? >> they don't have the last name out, of course, o thaty knw they last name.s but here's the thing. happen tu we don't really know what's going to happen tuesday. esda s pabecause logistically, this r never happened before. we have the secret service involved in anvice arraignment. ha >> when have you seen that before? never. and yo?ver. u have not worked out all these details yet as of this point. >> we they are not worked out yet. no >> we have some ideas, butthing, nothing's worked out yet. >> all right. t joe tacopina, thank you. w we'll be checking in with you next week.
arraignment will be handled, i am sure he will get to special treatment. nonetheless, this is humiliating for anyone who has to go through it and donal trump is about to go through a public humiliation i do not know what the lon term consequences of this are. i think until we see the indictment, and get a fuller and more fulsome sense of what artillery alvin bragg and th grand jury, who heard this evidence have lined up, we wil not know the full force of it. but it is obviously a momentou moment for him in his family and his legal travails are not over there are three other majo suits at play, or you know investigations and lawsuits of foot that are very threatening >> a quick correction, i misspoke tissue james, new york attorne general. tim, you just said that donald trump does not want to do that humiliating perp walk. do you not by this line that w have been hearing from his camp, that he wants to do this publicly, he wants the america
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year. indictments lead to trials and then they're really the office of the special. council county, georgia. manhattan d are gonna have to coordinate because the defendant and the defendants . defense team. um can't be in all those places at once, so they're going to have to. they're going to have to stack these as these charges. if these charges because this was indicted first. does that mean it will go to trial first or not? necessarily and you know, there are arguments that the january 6th investigation involves more serious crimes. or that the fulton county is a stronger case. uh so i mean, they're going to have to negotiate this. not just between the prosecutor's offices. but will it be the same team of lawyers for each case, or will they have different defense teams? because the violations are different, so this is going to get this is going to get complicated. what the question i keep getting is are we going to see a donald trump perp walk? think of the implications of that for former president of the united states on tuesday. and i