Almost certainly the chief of staff. people like peter navaro, when he's claiming executive privilege, it was a tougher sell. >> and meadows engaged with the committee. >> exactly. so that made it tougher for the justice department. but you're right, not just democrats, but the republicans on the january 6th committee very much disagree with that decision. they said it made it harder for them to get information. so we'll see what the impact is going forward and what kind of impact that has on the committee. >> yeah. you're hearing frustration from the january 6th committee and rank and file de...