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they just have to put sufficient evidence for what you are telling us. i'd love for you to reflect on that, as i remind our viewers here joining us from the east coast, we are not following at least the beginning initiation of grand jury voting and that trump election case in georgia. >> yeah, so, ari, you raised some very important points. so, number one, you do not have to have a unanimous, quote, verdict reached by grand jurors. as i said, in the state of georgia, you need to have at least 12 of the 23 grand jurors that have sat through the presentment of the evidence to be able to put a charge through. number two, another critical point, the burden of proof in a criminal case when you go to a trial is beyond and to the exclusion of every reasonable doubt. but the burden on the prosecution in this instance instanin the presentment of evidence and the grand jury, is just probable cause. as we know, probable cause is a much lower standard. and so, to your point, not only could not all of the charges be agreed upon, to the reckless number of 12, ari, but you're
sydney powell, and donald trump himself, to speak to the fact that donald trump in 2020 knew that in fact the election fraud claims that he was propagating, but also true detail the on here in front of a senate subcommittee, and then an official proceeding was propagating. they knew that they were false. rudy giuliani just last month was part of a lawsuit by the to fulton county elections workers who he had claimed were stuffing ballots into voting machines here in fulton county, acknowledged that he had made false statements about those two workers in fulton county. we also know that donald trump on election night, before it devotes even finished being counted in fulton county, quote, it's ultimately clear that we have won georgia. there are no never going to catch us. and to this day, they continue to -- he continues to propagate that he actually won georgia. so what we are looking at here is ultimately a republican party apparatus in the state that has aided donald trump. and now the question is whether
office, makes your stomach flip. >> as you say, cnn had reporting of that piece of information becoming evidence. i do want to get a response, we reserve the right to interject for breaking news -- one hillyard is in front of the courthouse with some of the new reporting. he's gathered. what can you tell us? >> right, from some of the blues of what i'm understanding right now, the investigation, the fact that this expanse beyond even 2020. that as far as, you know, september 2021, trump in september of 2021, long after he left the white house, in a letter to brad raffensperger, he quite explicitly said, quote, people do not understand why you, brad, governor kemp refused to acknowledge despite proven facts, and fight so hard that the election truth not be told. this speaks to the extent to which trump knowingly lost the election here. and they are very, frankly, quick to come out with this indictment, evidence that the public has not yet seen, about communications between the likes of clark, giuliani,
the courthouse this afternoon, posting quote, change of plans, they are moving faster than they thought. chidi was subpoenaed to testify about, quote, barging into a semi clandestine meeting of republicans pretending to be georgia's official electors in december 2020. also appearing sooner than planned was the former lieutenant governor of georgia, jeff duncan. he's a republican and former trump supporter who broke with the ex president in 2020. earlier today, donald trump attacked duncan on social media, saying that he, quote, should not testify before the grand jury. trump also called him, quote, a nasty disaster for those looking into the election fraud that took place in georgia. when duncan we left the courthouse a little over an hour ago, he told nbc news that he thinks this moment was a pivot point for his pardon. >> i think it's important to tell the truth. i have to respond to my constitutional duty, and answer to the grand jury -- it's important for us as a
to battles this weekend. the first, his fight for another shot at the white house. and the second of course, as you mentioned, his legal fight. hoping to avoid criminal charges in several investigations. most pressing, the manhattan district attorney's investigation into hush money payments. and indictment can come as early as monday and trump lashed out this week on social media, posting quote, potential death and destruction could be catastrophic for a country. amid all of, that he is moments away from taking off to the first rally, mega rally of the 2024 presidential campaign. here is some of those rally in teddies, here's what they said about all of it. >> everybody knows that he is not falling for this. he is saying that it could happen. if we look at what happened on
steve. going to start with this disturbing report. a hacker is stealing the identities from those who were killed in the condo clasp in surfside, florida. the criminal getting named. asked to check loved ones. authorities have not released which victims have been targeted. gunman opening fire on a truck in a bought of road rage. suspect shot several fliewndz that truck. the driver barreled through several lawns. police say the truck and a home hit with bullets but no injuries were reported thankfully. the suspect was arrested and charged with attempted murder. and appears to respond to britney calling her out for performing her song, posting quote, may the peace of the lord be with you and your spirit. overnight britney shared a new video dancing to billie llweleyn ledge's song bad guy. with the caption may the lord wrap your mean [bleep] in joy
process of whatever they are talking about. >> president trump's reaction to speaker paul ryan who said in an interview that the president obviously cannot end birth right citizenship by executive order. so why does he keep saying it? the president earlier hit back on twitter posting quote, paul ryan should be focusing on holding the majority rather than giving his opinions on birth right citizenship, something he knows nothing about. our new republican majority will work on this closing the immigration loopholes and securing our border. meanwhile attorney george conway who is married to kellyanne conway continued his public take downs of his wife's boss and even her own comments. in response to a "new york times" article detailing one of president trump's unfounded claims on immigration, conway tweeted quote, to say that