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Wholesome lives. But it had to do with the common good and whether we as individuals put the good of the country ahead of our own interests. It was very, to me its fascinating that this is a point that was made particularly by james madison. Because madison was a great legal realist. He was really the architect of our constitution. He understood that everybody had interests, groups had interests. We have to balance interests to have a country that would function, but he also said that no matter how well structured our government is, our political system is, the country is not going to succeed....

Inspired the. Host its not very usual as we both kn host its not very usual as we both know for secular elite liberal east coast journalists to talk about their faith. You talk about it the way george bush and jimmy carter did and its kind of offputting to a lot of people that are atheist or agnostic and who are how have you found the reaction to talking so openly . Guest i wouldnt accept the liberal label that you gave me. I am talking about the journalist crowd. Guest i havent gotten that reaction at all. There might be people that are not used to it. I am not walking down the halls with it ...

May be a different balance. At number it is far enough but there is a shift of for the College Graduates are going. Host we talked about my frustrations. But the governments job is to provide the foundation for something and its been really hard lately as im sure you appreciate to get bipartisan support for sensible programs and there is a lot that could be done to help the productivity gains in the last few years and the wages had grown as much as we would like so theres a lot of things that could be done to make our economy more vibrant the shore. The two or three things we could do one of t...

So how hard was it to do this book, how long did it take . Guest it took three years of fulltime research and writing, obviously thats not counting my two decades plus as a reporter on military and National Security issues prior to that, you know, gaining a lot of that information of previous articles, previous books and its also not counting the time spent in the editing process after those three years were up. It was very difficult but, you know, obviously not impossible to find the people and, you know, in some cases the other publish works or unpublished works that could power the story of...

But just thoughts generally on everything from id like to hear your assessment of what were doing right and wrong, everything from earned income tax credit to estate tax to Corporate Tax to the personal income tax guest you mentioned two areas. I mean, i think earned income tax credit and other credits that reward work, reward education, that those are constructive, and they avoid some of the tradeoffs that you wore toly about if you that you worry about if you, you know, essentially create a tax on benefits by taking away benefits if you go to work, for example. Corporate taxes, seems like th...