and we know how that turned out. god, you may want to intervene here. i want to just pray for arnold, if we can, for those ratings. i m not worried about arnold s ratings. i m worried about what are we going to do about iran. i m in favor of additional sanctions against iran. nothing is off the table. reporter: officials in the u.s. military raising major concerns over president trump s hastily approved ground strike in yemen. he doesn t make executions like that glibly. he did make the call at dinner, right? i can t reveal where he made the call. president trump s enemies within the administration continue an unprecedented level of leaking for a presidency that is not yet two weeks old. there are new leaks tonight about the president s role in launching a mission in yemen in which u.s. navy s.e.a.l. william owens became the first american killed in yemen. counsel of different people. there were other people around the table including his secretaries and generals. so he did make the call at dinner, right? i can t reveal where he made the call. as commander in chief he takes the job very seriously and executes on that as appropriate. all of this leaking comes the day after the administration leaked excerpts of donald trump s combative phone calls with the prime minister of australia and the president of mexico, two of our closest allies. dold trump decided is morning that the national prayer breakfast was the perfect place to say something about that. when you hear about the tough phone calls i m having, don t worry about it. just don t worry about it. they re tough. we have to be tough. it s time we re going to be a little tough, folks. we re taken advantage of by every nation in the world, virtually. it s not going to happen anymore. it s not going to happen anymore. today john mccain released this statement in response to the president s phone call with the australian prime minister. i called australia s ambassador to the united states to express my unwavering support for the u.s.-australia alliance. i asked ambassador hockey to convey to the people of australia that their american brothers and sisters our historic alliance, honor the sacrifice of the australians who have served and are serving by our side. this afternoon a white house official confirmed to nbc news that australia s ambassador to the u.s. met with steve bannon and reince priebus at the white house. politico reports that the stream of leaks from the white house and federal agencies stems from the fact that, quote, a feeling of distrust has taken hold in the west wing of donald trump s white house and beyond as his aides view each other and officials across the federal government and on capitol hill with suspicion. joining us know, john heilemann, co-author of game change and the ecutive producer of the documentar trumped, premiering tomorrow night. and eli stokols. eli, we ve seen, of course, white house leaking before. we ve never seen it this fast. i can t think of a significant leak that came out of a white house in its first two weeks. this is nothing like anything we ve seen before. no, and i mean, it s downright nixonian. the competing power centers in the campaign is something that he s always been sort of a part of his managerial style. we re seeing it now in the white house. the problem now of course is that the consequences are far greater than just, you know, what matters to his political campaign. the entire country is invested in this. behind that you have this broader sort of intrinsic disregard for experts and for institutional knowledge. you see that with trump putting his loyalist political appointees on the national security council. you see it when they sort of reject the input of a person at the state department who has studied the holocaust, they don t want their input when they re putting out a statement for holocaust remembrance day. it s big things and little things. this is an administration that controls things very tightly. the executive order on vetting on friday, even in the west wing there were a lot of people that didn t know it was coming. they held that close to the vest because they were trying to prevent the leaks. the problem there is that people in the federal government, whether they were lawyers who needed to make sure that the thing held muster legally or whether they were people at the agencies who were going to be implementing this thing, they hadn t seen it. widespread dysfunction we ve seen from the west wing in the what you are a master of. so john, the master, what s going on here? i think one of the key things to understanding what the psychology is of the leakers, part of problem that trump is suffering from is there are a variety of people with different kinds of motivations to want to leak. one set of people, and i think there s a large group of these, especially people like kellyanne conway, i m not accusing her of leaking, but the way to temper trump s behavior, the way to get him to understand a point, is if he sees it on television. she has essentially said that publicly. yes, she has. again, not accusing her of leaking. but saying others around him know that if you want to get through to him, you don t write him a memo, you don t try to talk to him about it. you try to get people on television to try to talk about him. so there are those leaking who are trying to get his behavior to be better. others, people who are more institutionally aligned, people who are part of the washington establishment who are now in the administration, people who are maybe part of the permanent government who are alarmed by trump s behavior, they re not speaking to trump. they re speaking to the outside world and trying to make it clear to everyone in america and democrats and other republicans and all of us, just how alarming some of the behavior that they see is, at least in their eyes. and when you are caught in that crossfire, you have people leaking who think they re trying to help you and people leaking to hurt you, that is a bad place be. and you know the one thing that s going on right now, it is making donald trump mental right now. mental. yes. because he s the control freak, obviously. all presidents want this control. and his is out of control. i want to go to one of the issues that has been leaked about, which is this phone call to the prime minister of australia. and let s listen to what donald trump said about that today. i have a lot of respect for australia. i love australia as a country. but we had a problem where for whatever reason, president obama said that they were going to take probably well over a thousand illegal immigrants who were in prisons. and they were going to bring them and take them into this country. i just said, why? a previous administration does something, you have to respect that. but you can also say, why are we doing this? that s why we re in the jams we re in. eli, a stunning statement. for one thing, he s finally gotten the number down to what it really is, which is down around 1200, he has been saying over 2,000, so someone got him to say the right thing. but then it s outright lies, the notion that refugees are illegal immigrants, the notion that they re in prisons. australia is holding them on these islands, trying to figure out what to do with them. australia would like a little help from other countries like the united states, which is a reasonable thing to ask for. and that s why this deal was done. and also, the executive order on immigration includes a provision for this exact deal. and here s donald trump, who signed that order, pretending he didn t know anything about it. he signed an executive order that incorporated it. well, the contradictions come pretty quick with this administration. so you have to be ready for those. and i think, you know, nobody is shocked at this point after some of the other threats he s made to other foreign leaders in the first two weeks. i mean, it s shocking that he would pick a fight seemingly with australia, one of the country s closest allies, going back decades. but this is donald trump. he s unpredictable. this melodrama is sort of reminiscent of what he staged throughout the campaign. instead of megyn kelly, you have australia, one of our closest allies. you have the feud, then the makeup session, today the australian ambassador is at the white house, people are sort of hysterical. steve bannon believes these sort of media freakouts, the constant hysteria, has the effect of numbing the public to what they re doing and sort of people get uncalibrated, where they can t tell anymore whether it s a scandal that really matters or whether it s just the sort of melodrama of the day. and i think even if this looks crazy to a lot of us who observe this and have never seen anything like this before, some of the dysfunction and the chaos coming from the white house may in fact be by design. and john, there s a fascinating thing that s helped in white house damage control that you now see senator mccain, elliott engel, the house of representatives, leading democrat on the foreign relations committee, they are doing damage control for america. yes. with foreign countries. yes. the president says something crazy about australia or about mexico, and there s john mccain calling the ambassador, elliott engel did the same thing, called the ambassador of australia saying, please don t hold this against us. and no doubt making some private comments about, we ve got a crazy man in the white house, don t listen to him. more than that, not just trying to apologize on america s behalf. mccain is speaking for america. he s saying, please tell australians that american and americans are still on their side. he s basically acting like a proxy president. there s really supposed to be one person in our system of government who speaks for the american people to foreign entities, and that is the president of the united states, not a senior senatorrom the republican party. i have toause on this australia and the mexican president s leak, the australian prime minister s leak. i ve never seen anything like that in more than 25 years covering national politics. the number of people with access to those calls and access to transcripts of those calls is very small. so when kellyanne conway says no one inside the white house, no one in the west wing is doing this, that s just wrong. she may not know who the person is who s doing it but there are not a lot of people outside the west wing with cessiaccess to t phone calls, who sees transcripts of them. those people fall into that first category, people who are genuinely saying the only way to get trump to tone this down is if we embarrass him to the press. and man, we re not two weeks in, and that s where we are. john heilemann, who knows a thing or two about trafficking in leaks. eli stokols, thanks for joining us tonight. coming up, new questions about the military raid 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i don t even know if you re a democrat or a republican. but i m appointing you for another year, the hell with it. his handlers forgot to tell him, don t say the hell with it. a minimally polite atheist would not have stood up there and said the hell with it. mark burnett is the owner/operator of the tv show that donald trump starred in. he is therefore the custodian of all the video recorded for that show tt was never seen on that show, video rumored to contain some prett horrible things said by donald trump. and thanks to mark burnett, none of that video has ever been seen. and so of course the president of the united states is very, very grateful to mark burnett. we had tremendous success on the apprentice. and when i ran for president, i had to leave the show. that s when i knew for sure i was doing it. and they hired a big, big movie star, arnold schwarzenegger, to take my place. and we know how that turned out. the ratings went right down the tubes. it s been a total disaster. and mark will never, ever bet against trump again. and i want to just pray for arnold, if we can, for those ratings, okay? of course the president of the united states is still an executive producer of that tv show. and he knows that any time he mentions that tv show, positively or negatively, it s brand awareness for that show. he s very good at making senator lindsey graham uncomfortable. and his ridiculous comments about praying for ratings today did it again. the bottom line is, he s new at the job. that made me feel uncomfortable. i m not worried about arnold s ratings. i m not thinking about his old show. i m worried about what are we going to do about iran. the president would of course prefer us to talk about his silliness at the prayer breakfast or arnold schwarzenegger s ratings. but senator graham is right. we should be talking about iran. tonight, two u.s. officials confirmed to nbc news that the u.s. could impose new sanctions on iran as early as tomorrow in response to iran s recent ballistic missile tests. when asked if military action is off the table in iran, the president said this. honestly, nothing is off the table. i haven t eased anything. phyllis benes, the author of understanding the u.s.-iran crisis, will join us next. what powers the digital world? 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they might just do something by executive order. we re hearing some very reckless threats coming out particularly from the white house. we re hearing not only the possibility of sanctions but very overtly saying that the possibility of military force is not off the table, everything is on the table, being emphasized again. and this is certainly not helpful. there has been no claim by either the white house or anyone in congress that the missile tests violated the iran nuclear deal. and the notion that somehow any move by iran that the u.s. can respond with these kind of ratcheting up pressures is making the situation in the region as a whole far worse. it s even more dangerous because we re hearing these threats of military force. and this is not something to take lightly. when you have the president tweeting at 3:00 in the morning or whatever it was that iran is on notice in big capital letters, and with an unspecified threat, it raises the stakes very high. and this president is not 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going to be interventionist all around the world? is it going to be isolationist in some arenas and interventionist in others? the iranians more than most are in a position to know how this administration is acting towards them. and it s a very threatening mode. whatever someone in the white house may be telling the president, that this is a violation of the nuclear agreement, it isn t. there is nothing in the nuclear agreement about conventional weapons testing, which is what this was. so that notion simply isn going to fly. and this agreement, we have to remember, is not simply between the u.s. and iran. it s between six different countries. five of the other countries that are allies of the u.s. negotiated with the u.s. with iran. and in that context, it s not something that the u.s. can simply say, well, our definition is we think this is included, when every other country agrees that it s not. the danger again, i think, goes directly to using the possibility of using yemen as a 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harley is that they finally figured out how to make a motorcycle. when i was buying british bikes, brand-new harley-davidsons couldn t stop leaking oil. you had to be a mechanic to own a harley-davidson, to even get one started. the temporary tariff that ronald reagan imposed on japanese motorcycles gave harley-davidson the breathing room to figure out how to make a better motorcycle, which they did by going to japan and visiting japanese motorcycle factories, studying how the japanese did it. the competition from international competitors to harley-davidson made harley-davidson motorcycles better, much better. my first harley spent the winters as the most beautiful ornament in my living room, parked right beside my sofa in my manhattan apartment without ever dripping a drop of oil. i convinced friends of mine who had only ridden japanese bikes to buy harleys. harley-davidson requested that the protective five-year tariff be removed a year early because harley didn t need it anymore. after the tariff was removed, harley s ceo actually said, for years we tried to figure out why the japanese were beating us so badly. first we thought it was their culture. then we thought it was automation. then we thought it was dumping. finally we relialized the probl was us, not them. they had been making a terrible product and doing it in an inefficient way. in addition to designing and building a better motorcycle, harley-davidson also cut jobs, laid off workers, streamlined the assembly line. so harley-davidson doesn t fit the simplistic story donald trump wants to tell you about international trade. harley-davidson became a fat and lazy american company making a terrible product because it didn t have enough competition. and so, yes. one american company was saved by oneemporary tariff. and it worked because of the unique circumstances. the tariff was designed to protect only one small company. not an entire industry. that same strategy would never work for an entire industry 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proposes giving individuals and groups wide discretion in denying services, employment, and benefits on the basis of their religious beliefs. joining us now is stewart milk, president of the harvey milk foundation and an lgbt activist. stewart, thank you for joining us. stewart, you ve seen this breast memo. it has been scaring people, it s been out a few days now. and then there s the president today at the prayer breakfast, telling an element that s in that memo and saying he definitely wants to get this done, and at the same time the white house seems to be giving signals saying, oh, no, no, don t take that memo too seriously. yeah, i mean, you know, we ve been on what seems like a whirlwind. it seems like we ve been at this now for months, and it s only been a few days. but we had the president say or the white house say that they were keeping president obama s executive order that bans discrimination on employment in the federal government and with contractors for the lgbt community. that s great. but at the same time, we see these executive orders, draft executive orders being circulated that basically take the hull out of that boat of protection. so the executive order that president obama put into place is really a boat of protection for the lgbt from discrimination and these executive orders would actually gut that. you would be left with a boat with sides and nothing to prevent you from drowng. don t forget, donald trump also said that ted cruz s discriminatory amendment that would allow people to called the fada, that he would sign that, that s also something that would gut protections for lgbt people and give people license to discriminate. and the ability to allow religious organizations to participate in the political system with their tax exempt status, you know, if you listened at the prayer breakfast, he didn t even get that big round of applause from that, because most of the religious community i don t think really want to go back to those days. they don t want to be involved where they may be clearinghouses for people, for billionaires and companies to avoid the checks and balances that we have in political contributions. so, you know, in many ways we re exhausted from what seems to be a ping-pong ball. and unfortunately we re not the only community, the lgbt community is not the only community that s part of that ping-pong ball. i do have to point out, lawrence, when the president says that he is going to protect the lgbt community as he did at the convention, well, let me make it perfectly clear that if you attack refugees, then you are attacking the lgbt community. if you re attacking the muslim community, you re attacking lgbt people. if you re taking away rights of women, you are attacking lgbt people. if you re attacking people of color, you are attacking lgbt people. this divide and conquer, this whirlwind that we re on, has just got to stop. and people have to be able to rise up and say enough. i think we re all exhausted from this carousel that we ve been on. and, you know, if these things like draft executive orders don t have any weight, then someone s got to come out there and stop it. someone s got to close the door on these type of things that are coming from the white house. and we ve got to be able to shut down things like fada, the ted cruz amendment. hopefully there will be enough republicans who will realize this is legalized state sanctioned discrimination. let s listen to what sean spicer said about this today. people should be able to practice their religion, express their religion, express areas of their faith without reprisal. i think that pendulum sometimes swings the other way in the name of political correctness. there s clearly a lot of evidence in the last couple of years of the government coming in with regulations and policies that have frankly denied people the ability to live according to their faith. stuart, what did you hear in that answer? you know, again, this is the ringer. i mean, what he s basically saying is that we re going to support some form of discrimination and call it religious liberty. and it s actually antithetical to liberty, to be you know, it s double talk and, you know, it s an attack on the on what our country is built on, which is our liberty and our individual pursuit of happiness.
north korean actions just re-enforced for both leaders why this is the number one threat to both prime minister abe and to president trump. i think the north korean actions were deliberately timed after what was a pretty good week in terms of u.s. policy in asia, with regard to president trump s call with xi jinping and secretary mattis s trip to the region, i think the trump administration said look, we re here and we re not going to be an easy issue to deal with. right now the national security advisor is said to have broke on the law and critics call for him to be fired, for him to step down. how much does that impact the advice that this group can give the president at this time? i think the precedent is going to get advise from a wide range of people, including the folks in the state department, particularly those commitments to china that would affect the finances that north korea has for building these missiles, there may be a statement that comes out of the u.n. security council as well. i don t expect a full-fledged resolution, though. we keep hearing that china is like the lynch pin in all of this. why isn t china tougher on north korea. turning the korean peninsula into a u.s. military ally, a democratic military ally right on china s border. but there s a lot more that china could do, they promised to do so in the last security council resolution, particularly as i said on coal, but in the last order of 2016, north korean coal imports were at a record high, so they re clearly not doing what they re supposed to were referring to. but this is the ninth time they have tried to test this missile. the last two times before the election were unsuccessful, and this was a successful missile launch, and this could mean that they re perfecting their missiles, that they may want to send to iran or others. both japan and the u.s. and it s allies need to focus on and it s the number one security issue. you just brought upp iran an its nuclear missiles. which do you think is the biggest threat. i think the real threat is north korea. iran has a developing nuclear program, north korea has one. they re trying to create a missile that can reach the united states. so i think while the stakes are high in both cases, and there has been a lot of attention paid to the iran case, the north korean case, as president obama told president trump reportedly in their white house meeting is really going to be the number one issue in this administration. thanks for offering your expertise for us. still to come, people in president trump s inner circle are still focused on the numbers from election day. a senior white house official staying on the claim that millions of people voted illegally. so what s their strategy here? plus the fight for the president s travel ban, could a new executive order come as early as tomorrow? and later, sean spicer s tough week from fighting with the press to late-night parodies, does the white house press secretary have a pr problem? that s all ahead, you re live in the cnn newsroom. not back. it s looking up not down. it s feeling up thinking up living up. it s being in motion. in body in spirit in the now. boost. it s not just nutrition. it s intelligent nutrition. with 26 vitamins and minerals and 10 grams of protein. all in 3 delicious flavors. it s choosing to go in one direction. up. boost. be up for it. how to brush his teeth. 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yes. not the majority, but it s a few. in what way? in the way we all have this suspicion that, you know, that he s not, he lies a lot. he says things that aren t true, that s the same as lying, i guess. he, you know, 3 million to 5 million people voted illegally, there s a new one about people going into massachusetts. thousands and thousands in a bus, yeah. and, you know, that is not the norm for a president of the united states or actually for a human being. we should note, cnn cannot confirm franken s assertion that a few of his colleagues have expressed thds concerns. former political commentator and communications districtor for ted cruz and the president obviously doesn t want a headline like this out there, even if he thinks it s absolutely ridiculous, how does he combat it? you combat it just by taking it head on. look, it is unequivocal facts matter, and that goes for whether they re spoken by the president, the administration or those in the media. and it s important that everyone be factual. while on occasion, the typical story line may have changed for the president. but for members of the senate, or members of congress to question his mental health, that s uncalled for, that s p p reprehensible and there should not be any of that. to continue, it s just disrespectful and uncalled for in the presidential arena. what do you make of it? i don t know donald trump, i don t think alice knows him, i don t think al franken does, but you know who s been friends with him for years and attended his wedding? howard stern, he said donald trump has a very fragile ego, he wants to be liked, he wants to be loved, he wants people to cheer for him. last time i checked, donald trump was pro abortion. he might be delusional because i love this, i don t know why people don t pick this up. the day after he was inaugurated, he goes to the cia. he said the rain stopped when i came out and spoke, and then the sun came out and then when i stopped speaking, it started raining again. that s ee s either not true, o he s those illegals who allegedly voted for clinton right before they did the bowling green massacre, should have us all concern econcerned. we did hear stephen miller doubling down on the unsubstantiated voter fraud claims earlier this week. voter fraud is a serious problem in this country, you have millions of people who are registered in two states, who are dead and registered to vote, and you have 14% of noncitizens, according to academic research, at a minimum are registered to vote, which is an astonishing statistic. hold on a second, you just claimed again that that was illegal voting in new hampshire from people bussed into massachusetts. do you have any evidence of that? george, go to new hampshire, talk to anybody who s worked in politics there for a long time. everybody s aware of the problems in new hampshire. for the president right now, we re looking at lye pictures as he walks off the plane, air force one back in washington, d.c. when you hear stephen miller come out and continuing to fuel the narrative of voter fraud in the u.s., not just voter fraud, but widespread voter fraud, what s your response? lies, shameless lies, it s pathetic, and voter fraud which doesn t exist is really threatening to republicans because they want to engage in voter suppression and voter id laws against people like african-americans. he can simply say i was mistaken, there weren t illegal votes, look, i won, but i m so set on proving the biggest of everything, that i will now lie and have sean spicer lie and even have stephen miller lie, and he identified voter fraud as being registered in two different states, and you know who else is registered in other states? steve bannon and jared kushner. just because you re registered in two states, doesn t mean you re voting in both states, but there are instances where that has happened and there are cases of that voter fraud, not widespread, however. i think it s important to remember where this began, when there first became questions about voter regularities and russian hacking in the elections, president trump was frustrated, understandably so, because he felt that that was a way to delegitimize his victorv, that s what started conversations about voter fraud. and it s morphed into what we have now about repeated claims about millions of people who voted illegally and voter fraud. i myself don t believe there s evidence of that, i have worked as deputy secretary of state, and these elections are run state by state and it s virtually impossible to have such widespread voter fraud as they re claiming, but that being said, if they feel that, girlfriegive us some sort of evidence so we can have can confidence in your investigation that you re carrying out. if they were to do that they would get a lot more run way. i think it s important to focus on what we saw in the split screen, it was a successful weekend with the japanese prime minister where he worked on building a relationship with them and the ballistic missile test from north korea and showing a united front, those are the things that are positive that he should be focusing on instead of things that not a lot of people have put much faith in. snl had a sketch last night featuring the president having his day in court over that blocked travel ban. let s talk about that issue after we take a look at that sketch. president trump, look, i have read the ban, it seemed rushed even to me, and i decide three court cases in an hour. i see no evidence that it will help. i would like to settle. what? i would like to settle out of court. they always settle pocahontas. i want one day without a cnn alert that scares the hell out of me. so she says, you re doing too much, snl poking fun at how much we have been covering in just the past three weeks. alice, what s your response? i think on one hand it s good that they are following through on campaign promises, they are promise keepers, as the vice president continues to say, a lot of what he told trump supporters, he is following through on that and that s a positive sign and also the measures he made, the executive orders with regard to law and order and safety and protecting our law enforcement officers, those are things that are sorely needed in this country, but at the same time, with regard to the travel ban executive order, they could have taken a little bit more time to make sure that the legalities of that were sound on the front end and make sure all the is were cross and ts were dotted. all of that unfortunately before the courts, we would be in a much different situation. but i do strongly believe the law is on their side with the travel ban, and i think if they rework the executive order they ll be successful and won t face legal challenges if they were to rewrite it and go about it another time. do you agree? no, instead of issuing these executive orders it would be nice if he actually wrote them and didn t rely on steve bannon and stephen miller. and advocate for the purchase of ivanka s clothes and going into nordstrom and all that. but he doesn t know what he s doing, this shows rank incompetence of his administration. i agree with alice, that had they reworked it, that he would have a better chance. but it is an unconstitutional muslim ban, and it was good to see donald trump who s used to election, gets trumped, anonymously, legal ruling 3-0 unanimous ruling. also reminding president trump that there s a judiciary checks and balances and separation of powers and he s not the everyoner. got to get in a break here, appreciate you both in offering your thoughts to us tonight. coming up from political fire works to late night parodies, take a look at sean spicer s rough week as white house press secretary. this is silly, next. okay, thank you, you have asked your question. s. and you can count all the ingredients in flavored almond milk on ten fingers and five toes. it has long been called storm of tiny bubbles, the champagne of beers. if you ve got the time welcome to the high life. we ve got the beer miller beer you may know what it s like to deal with high. and low blood sugar. januvia (sitagliptin) is a once-daily pill that, along with diet and exercise, helps lower blood sugar. januvia works when your blood sugar is high and works less when your blood sugar is low, because it works by enhancing your body s own ability to lower blood sugar. plus januvia, by itself, is not likely to cause weight gain or low blood sugar (hypoglycemia). januvia should not be used in patients with type 1 diabetes or diabetic ketoacidosis. tell your doctor if you have a history of pancreatitis. serious side effects can happen, including pancreatitis which may be severe and lead to death. stop taking januvia and call your doctor right away if you have severe pain in your stomach area which may be pancreatitis. tell your doctor right away and stop taking januvia if you have an allergic reaction that causes swelling of the face, lips, tongue, or throat, or affects your breathing or causes rash or hives. kidney problems sometimes requiring dialysis have been reported. some people may develop severe joint pain. call your doctor if this happens. using januvia with a sulfonylurea or insulin may cause low blood sugar. to reduce the risk, your doctor may prescribe a lower dose of the sulfonylurea or insulin. your doctor may do blood tests before and during treatment to check your kidneys. if you have kidney problems a lower dose may be prescribed. side effects may include upper respiratory tract infection, stuffy or runny nose, sore throat, and headache. for help lowering your blood sugar talk to your doctor about januvia. ltry align probiotic.n your digestive system? 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you re equating me addressing the nation here in a tweet? i mean that s the silliest thing i have ever heard. that s silly, next. after that happened here were the headlines, from politico, sean spicer loses his cool with the press. from gq, donald trump can t help but make sean spicer s life miserable. and from the washington post, sean spicer went full melissa mccarthy today. i want to bring in hemedia correspondent. i guess the plus side for sean is that he s the best known press secretary in memory, but the bad side is he s kind of a laughing stock and i don t know how he gets out from under the characterization now, other than actually embracing it. i think being combative is only making it worse. people are saying, wow, he s doing melissa mccarthy now. because this is the trump administration, are people being maybe hyper critical? i think the trump administration is being scrutinized for everything they do, because as you showed in the clip, it seems like every hour there s a new alert, that something is happening, that people are like, just, it makes their head spin. it s a critical eye being turned on it. i don t think you can deny that, and if you re talking about saturday night live, you re talking about the premier satirical entertainment in the country right now that s come into itself again in the biggest way it s been in years, the ratings are spectacular, they had the highest ratings last night than they have had in since years, so it s very successful for them. vanity fair went so far as to call president trump our very own baghdad bob. the press has stated that they don t believe a lot of what he says, because a lot of what he says has proven to be wrong, about fraudulent voting, et cetera. he s having trouble talking, which she may reference, melissa mccarthy, trying to pronounce names and then messing them up. being portrayed as baghdad bob is the worst thing you can say about a press secretary because nothing he says is credible. i can t help but feel bad for them knowing that he is on tv and knowing the kind of scrutiny that is sometimes thrown at you. how has melissa mccarthy s skit been in shaping the public opinion of sean spicer? people don t really know the press secretary, people watched him a little bit, because he made sort of noise attacking the press. she comes out and it was a big surprise, now she comes out and repeats it. it s like pounding him over the head with a sledgehammer. i think he is under duress. i do think it s interesting that he asked about using a water gun with the press, and that would have been a good idea, i would think, because at least they would have said he s playi inin along. playing along with the only way you can fight it. an administrator in the dominican republic got blasted for using a photo of alec baldwin playing president trump instead of an actual photo. i think it s an obvious mistake, but it gets to the place where people are crossing over, the alec baldwin impression is being seen by an enormous number of people. and so some foolish person in the dominican republic made that mistake, but it underscores that there s just not a lot of serious thoughtful stuff going on in terms of the way people are reacting to this president. they re reacting in visceral ways, they either love him or they hate him, it s one of the two extremes. quick break, we ll be right back. baa baa black sheep, have you any wool? 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saw fairly recently at the white house when president trump announced judge neil gorsuch would be his pick to replace justice scalia. several people people will be in attendance whose family were killed from undocumented immigrants. at president trump s campaign rallies he d bring people on stage to talk about this with regard to immigration. this will be a discussion of potentially economic security, national security, and possibly immigration as we look ahead later in the week, ali, to the president revealing his revised travel ban. on friday remember, it will be a month that original ban has been tied up in court essentially since the stay was put on it. the president might talk about his budget, too, something a lot of members of congress are particularly interested in hearing. here s what he had to say when it came to what he would do with entitlement reform with cuts to medicaid and social security. listen. you have an omb director finally. he says you have to take an axe to entitlements. u.s. treasury says we re not touching it. who is right? who is right if the economy sails i m right, i m not touching social security. your omb is wrong? i m not saying anybody is wrong. i think this is what s going to happen, brian, i think our country is going to sail. reporter: parse that. that is the president doing what he s done for months now, to continue to reiterate he is not going to be touching these entitlements. paul ryan is somebody who has worked for years to try to make the point that that overhaul needs to happen in order to make real dramatic changes to government spending, the house speaker saying this morning on nbc news with matt lauer that health care reform would be entitlement reform. it was interesting to hear him at his press conference earlier this morning ali talk about that given that did not seem to be one of his big pushes prior to president trump taking office. yes but you don t have to be an expert to look the at the budget and say if you are increasing defense spending to the degree they want to, you forward on it. i do think there is kind of, they re looking for some direction here. paul ryan the house speaker was pressed on all of these issues earlier today. take a look at what he had to say. two, entitlements are reformed with repealing and replacingby ma cair right now. that s two entitlements we re reforming just this spring so we are well on our way to reforming entitlements by repealing and replacing obamacare so i think that s a pretty darned good start. reporter: but the reality here, ali, is that you know, president trump, his rhetoric is much different than paul ryan, when it comes to entitlements like medicare and social security. paul ryan has essentially built almost his entire political kind of reputation and career as the guy who is willing to te on the hardest questions in government, and trying to control the costs associated with entitlements. it s both a necessary thing for the long-term fiscal health of the country, republicans would expect a reset or like what he said to fox&friends this morning where everything is fine. a lot of people watching to see how he decides to pivot. last year his famous line in his convention nomination speech was i alone can fix this. well we ve seen now few weeks in office that you can t do everything by yourself as president. he s tried signing a lot of executive orders, some of them have gone forward, some of them have been stopped by the courts. there s a limit to how much you can do without congress and so far he actually hasn t proposed much of a legislative agenda. they re talking about it but haven t come up with the specifics. if he s going to begin engaging congress-to-tonight s the night to do it. what are we asking congress to dos? his republican party in charge of both houses. what does he want to do on health care, on tax reform and a loof other issues. hallie, there are som protests taking place tonight that will take place inside the capitol, some because people won t show, some because of what people are wearing, some because of the way that they are breaking with tradition. tell us about this. reporter: ali, we know this. let me start with who won t be attending, the name we ve heard so far is congressman maxine waters. according to sources who are familiar with this house democratic caucus meeting this morning she stood up and said hey and i m paraphrasing i m not going to be here and urged other members not to attend if they felt they couldn t contain themselves when they watched the president speaking. about a half other democrats said it s important to attend to listen to be respectful, fight the fight after but at least go and listen to what the president has to say. that is what congressman elliot engel says he ll listen. what won t he do, ali? we found out in the last hour or two the congressman will not for the if, time in nearly 30 years stand on the aisle and shake the president s hand as he walks by. you might remember from past joint addresses to congress, whether they be state of the union addresses or addresses like this time of year, there s been a little bit of jockeying position who can shake the president s hand and have that moment as the president was walking into the chamber. congressman engel is not going to try for it this year because he has so many concerns about the trump presidency and administration so far. peter, let me ask you something about this discussion of thinning down the state department, and what some people are criticizing as eliminating some of the u.s. s soft power. i want to read to you what 121 retired generals said about president trump s plan to slash the state department s budget. elevating and strengthening diplomacy and development alongside defense are critical to keeping america safe. this was signed by people like david petraeus, anthony zinny, james stavrides and echoed by a number of people on our air today saying soft power is much more important than this president seems to think it is. that s right. lot of times people come into office we re going to cut foreign aid and spend it at home, america first. what they don t understand when they say that is the foreign aid is a tiny, tiny percentage of our budget. polls have shown that americans think it s something like 20%, 25% but it s really like a percent and a lot of that goes to our friends like israel, egypt, and others that we would find important recipients for a lot of reasons that you just mentioned. so that s why bob gates, who was the defense secretary under george w. bush and stayed under barack obama he made one of his primary missions when he was at the pentagon to bolster the state department because he felt that was anmportant complement to the kind of military power that he exercised that without it, the pentagon would be in worse shape so you do hear this from a lot of people on the military side of the equation, not just the diplomats. kasie, hallie, peter, stand by. i want to bring in my other guests here, harold ford jr., former congressman and msnbc political analyst, michael waldman, president of the brandon center for justice. gentlemen, i want to play what you lindsey graham said about president trump s budget proposals. let s just play that. it s dead on arrival. it s not going to happen. it would be a disaster, if you take soft power off the table then you re never going to win the war. what s most disturbing about the cut in the state department s budget, it shows a lack of understanding what it takes to win the war. now, congressman ford, it is you get in-party fighting. in the republican fighting it s unusual with john mccain and lindsey graham when it comes to military matters. when lindsey graham says this is off the table, pulling soft power off the table and john mccain said yesterday the amount of money he s putting into the defense is not enough. this is a problem. there s no doubt. i think you said it best in the outset your introductory remarks, probably more interesting than to see how many democrats don t attend or don t stand to see how paul ryan and i would argue mitch mcconnell and lindsey graham and john mccain how they perceive and receive the speech. trump thinks he can make the economic message about growth. we ll spend some and grow the deficit. you re going to see if the freedom caucus stands up to trump. you get a sense trump will say we rg to spend until we grow this economy and put people back to work. he won t be able to get around john mccain on the issues. stavrides and pea tray was were considered for two high jobs in the administration. for them to make that point it is clear there s an alliance growing within the republican party and within the military intelligencia saying mr. president you can t cut the state department funding and argue that you re increasing the defense spending and make america safer. the two go hand in hand. i ll be as curious about republican reaction as anything else. it s a shift. i don t know how you describe it, michael, the shift that says all right, there are a lot of people you can agree or disagree whether you want more military. experienced people say they do need to upgrade the military and a lot who don t but the concept of reducing our soft power and our influence which we have seen in the president s behavior in the first 40 days but now being backed up by an actual thinning down of the state department and our diplomatic efforts around the world, i don t know if there s a school of thought for that other than isolationism. you re right, the military spending was frozen for so many years in some ways by the sequester. right. putting that aside, this has more of the wreak of the kind of pretend budgeting where you pretend that you can get it all by closing down the washington monument and cutting out of the discretionary spending. we heard somef that in the sequester, federal government chefs earn too much money and these people earn too much money. you can t add up to the amount of money you need. and presidents often will find themselves late in their term almost become a lame duck setting up a budget that, as it is said, dead on arrival. president his first month in office maybe needing a reset. the most unpopular new president since they invented polling, and a budget that seems like if it couldn t go more inkept and more into detail than we ve heard up until now, congress will roll its eyes and do its own thing. that is not a recipe for the kind of i alone with fix it strongman leadership trump wanted people think he was going to offer. if you eliminated discretionary spending for the next ten years you still can t get to. but this is an achilles heel for republicans because we ve had a really bad ten years when it comes to budgeting. we haven t even met the basic rules of budgeting. in the constitution, congress only as you know has one written out responsibility in its appropriation. the 13 appropriations. they ve got to do this. we ve been bad at it, it s become so partisan, can they do something whereby the president and the executive branch puts forward a budget and there s really robust discussion about it, and there s a vote and by october we actually have a budget? so to your point i served there. i don t think there was a time i was in congress, in my ten years that we passed the budget by seember 30 for the beginning of the fiscalear october 1. trump is saying he s going to do it, and he s going to have a big test on his hand, if he s able to convince this congress to run some deficits, if he s able to convince his own omb chief who comes from the freedom caucus this is okay to do. the white house budget director came out at the beginning of the press conference and speak the language of we re getting a budget out there and going to go through the process, going to get passed and we ll get back to the business congress is supposed to do. nevermind naming post offices and things like that. they need a budget. this is like the famous parable of the dog that caught the car and what is it going to do with the car? there s been ten years of republican oppositional taunts like we re going to repeal obamacare on the first day. everybody in the country should understand the president and the congress are controled by one party. i think there was a lot of confusion before because of the star power of somebody like barack obama or whoever is the president. so not only will the republicans in congress have to grapple with these numbers, whatever the tone we hear from the speech tonight, they will own that, too. after the most divisive and dark inaugural address ever and the most angry and self-absorbed presidential press conference ever, what kind of tone will we hear from this president? i m not necessarily betting it will be unifying and forward-looking. i m a bit of a geek about these things but important for people to remember the budget is the writing down of the priorities of that government. it s where they put their money where their mouth is. so they can say anything they want to do, but until it shows up in that document, it doesn t make any sense. and he will have an opportunity look, i hear michael and i hear a lot of my democratic friends. i don t remember a state of the union that was terrible. i remember state of the unions i didn t agree with. sure. he s starting out with a good title, american renewal and he is going to have to navigate tough trends around health care, the main governors opposing his health care plan because they don t want to see medicaid reform are republican governors. i m nervous. i want to see some of the details about how we get these things done. where the unrubber meets the road and legislators and governors and mayors have to legislate at home. donald trump surprises us all sometimes so if he does go down that road of an optimistic speech about revival we ll be all ears. that brings us to microsoft s pulse question. here is what president trump said about health care. nobody knew that health care could be so complicated. actually lots of people say they knew that health care was complicated but we re asking you, many say health care is broken is it too complicated to ific? le us know at us.msnbc.cpulse.m. i grew up in canada so i ll recuse myself from this conversation. the white house denying they re calling for mass deportations of illegal immigrants but some aren t so sure that s actually true. we ll talk to congressman joaquin castro about his recent conversation with the head of immigration and custom enforcement and the white house s immigration plans. and activists across the country getting ready to fight back as republicans vow to crack down on illegal immigration. jacob ras cope in austin, texas w what s happening there. reporter: hundreds marched on the capitol and held a rally and headed inside to talk to their lawmakers. what they are protesting and 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reporter: we ve talked to people from el paso and houston and dallas and the rio grande valley. they ve come in, probably several hundred of them, after a march and a rally, what you re seeing now is them going into the capitol building, they want to talk to lawmakers and also want to chant and make some noise and what they hope, what they are demanding is sb4 doesn t make it through the house and into the governor s office, where he would sign it into law. the truth is that it may do just that. it passed the senate with flying colors. what it does as you pointed out bans sanctuary cities and will gut the money from the state to local or county or any other governments that refuse to comply. we ll talk with one of the people who came from out of on, roscio from houston. why did you choose to come? i choose to come because i know what it feels like to have a parent be deported back to their home country and it s just not a pretty feeling. reporter: it was a couple of weeks ago your father was deported, and you found out because he called you from mexico. what do you stye those who will say look, the law is the law. if you re here illegally and you commit a crime that s just what happens. what is the argument? well, sometimes back in their home country there s just a lot of vionce going on that it s way too dangerous and you can be risking your life there and coming to the u.s. it s a much safer place and you have a brighter future here and you re safe. reporter: thank you so much forever your time, rocio. lot of them say they want a better process and of course they want sanctuary cities to be okay. back to you. all right, jacob rascon thank you very much. let s stay in texas, joining me is congressman joaquin castro, democrat from texas. good to see you. thank you for being with us. thanks for having me. you met with immigration and customs enforcement i.c.e. and after that meeting you said it was not hard to conclude that president trump has started his mass deportation plan. here s what attorney general jeff sessions said this morning about immigration reform. listen. i believe there s nothing wrong legally morally or intellectually with a lawful system of immigration. it serves the national interest. what s wrong with that? all right, let s take him at his word. what s wrong with a lawful system of immigration? absolutely nothing, and in 2014 i believe the senate passed a comprehensive immigration reform bill and that bill had enough votes in the house of representatives to pass both democrats and republicans at the time, but the speaker refused to put it up for a vote. and what we re seeing from now stem from congress s failure to pass an immigration reform bill that clearly outlines who gets to stay and who has to go. nobody is standing up and saying that somebody who is a murderer or a rapist should be allowed to stay in the country but there are millions and millions more people who are nothing like that, who are peaceful people, many of whom have lived here for decades, who are raising their kids and their families, who have paid their taxes, and most americans and most texans agree those peoplehould have a path to legalization. let me ask you this, congressman. parse this with me. yesterday i was speaking to governor mcauliffe of virginia, who said that he had spoken with homeland secretary kelly, who said to him that no one who hasn t had a mixup with the law who is here illegally should fear being deported. then governor mcauliffe said he relaid that, he asked secretary kelly if he could speak about this and secretary kelly said okay. governor mac awe live relayed that to the president and the president also said he could speak of that and that was likely true. do you believe that, that if you haven t had a brush-up with the law and you are an undocumented immigrant in the united states that you are safe from deportation? that s absolutely untrue. if you look at what s going on, we see that it s untrue and i.c.e. basically said that s not the case. let me tell you why. they specifically said that if they have for example a warrant to pick somebody up at a particular location, an undocumented immigrant, that they have the right and the ability and they will go and ask the other people who are living in that household basically for their citizenship documents to prove whether they have the right to be here or not. those could be kids, those could be other adults who have committed no crimes whatsoever, so what you re telling me points to a bigger problem we ve had with this administration that has not to do with immigration but just about every issue which is on controversial issues you re getting three or four or five different answers from the white house, and the president on these things, and honestly, americans don t know whose word to trust. right, this is the governor of virginia, the secretary of homeland secuty, and the president, and then you talking to the head of i.c.e. that s a lot of different information coming from a whole lot of people who should know. let s get down to the business about having a brush with the law. there was a deportation recently in arizona and the government was saying this is somebody who had been convicted of an offense, the offense was working with a social security number because she was illegal. in the case of many undocumented workers in the united states, there are two things that they do, if they require, if they have to drive and they are not able to get a driver s license, they sometimes drive without a license, and in other cases they work with someone else s social security number. that puts them into the system so if the government does stick to the idea that if you ve had a brush with the law, they will deport you, those people do fall into that basket. that s right. you raise a great point. when we think of deporting people who are criminals, we re thinking of people who have, you know, committed a kidnapping, a murder, a rape, burglary, something that we really consider a fundamental crime. now defined as a crime are also those things that you describe, people who come here who are desperate to support their families, that do come up with the social security numbers, who by the way are paying taxes, but they re also being hired by american businesses for cheap labor, and that s been going on for a long time, so there s incredible hypocrisy in the entire immigration system, but also as part of the listf offenses that i.c.e. listed to us was something as simple as traffic tickets. so not even forging a social security number or other documents, but literally getting a traffic ticket, and so that s why i made the comment that they basically declared open season on all immigrants except for maybe some daca recipients. there was a young boy, 19-year-old boy arrested for having less than two ounces of marijuana and looked like he was going to be deported. apparently that didn t happen but he got into the process. that s right my office intervened, congressman lloyd dogett intervened. this kid had a joint or some possession of marijuana which you know, obviously in most states marijuana possession is still illegal, but the young man is also not a murderer. he s not a rapist. and marijuana is legal in many states so it s not as black and white as it seems. we haur you ve been mulling a run against ted cruz for the senate. you come from a very political family. you are a texas politician. what s your timetable to make that decision? you know, i said that within the next few months, i expect to make that decision, as you can imagine i m trying to balance that with the incredible responsibilities of being on the house intelligence committee, and we literally in the eye of the storm with the russia investigation and so i m hoping to make decisn in the next few months. it s clear to me going around the state and talking to texans from all walks of life that they want a different senator, they want somebody who will serve the people of texas and they re hungry for change. congressman joaquin castro thank you for being with us. thank you. republicans are growing increasingly concerned over plans to repeal and replace obamacare. who is responsible for coming up with an alternative and can they pull it off? before fibromyalgia, i was active. i was energetic. then the chronic, widespread pain drained my energy. my doctor said moving more helps ease fibromyalgia pain. he also prescribed lyrica. fibromyalgia is thought to be the result of overactive nerves. lyrica is believed to calm these nerves. for some, lyrica can significantly relieve fibromyalgia pain and improve function, so i feel better. lyrica may cause serious allergic reactions or suicidal thoughts or actions. tell your doctor right away if you have these, new or worsening depression, or unusual changes in mood or behavior. or swelling, trouble breathing, rash, hives, blisters, muscle pain with fever, tired feeling, or blurry vision. common side effects are dizziness, sleepiness, weight gain and swelling of hands, legs and feet. don t drink alcohol while taking lyrica. don t drive or use machinery until you know how lyrica affects you. those who have had a drug or alcohol problem may be more likely to misuse lyrica. with less pain, i can be more active. ask your doctor about lyrica. the president is expected to discuss the repeal and replacement of obamacare in his prime time address tonight. nbc s tom costello joins me now from washington with a preview. tom, good to see you. i don t know if it s a fair question to ask you but what are you expecting to hear from the president about the reform of the affordable care act? i think there are so many unanswered questions right now and so many parties with conflicting ideas about what s going to happen. there appears to be growing consensus among republicans in congress and republican governors that they need to have a replacement plan in effect. they can t just throw out the affordable care act and not have something to take its place. is congress considering replacing obamacare or in the end revising it? today the speaker of the house suggested a popular element of obamacare which requires insurers to cover preexisting conditions that will likely stay. our whole purpose is to improve access to affordable health care coverage, regardless of whether you have a preexisting condition or not. that is what we ran on last year, that s what we re working on this year, and that is our objective. critical piece of information there. so what could stay or what could go from obamacare? we heard about preexisting conditions, if the speaker is to be believed that will likely stay. what about children covered until they re 26 years old? that s a popular portion of obamacare? what about preventative care? the law requires insurers to offer preventative care medicine to everybody, not just obamacare patients. we re talking colonoscopies and blood pressure and cholesterol screening and mental health care, addiction care. what about the individual mandate, very unpopular with republicans that requires everybody to have insurance, therefore paying into a system to provide coverage for everybody. if that goes away, will fewer americans be covered? the problems with the law are very well documented ali. insurers are pulling out of the marketplaces in many states because they re not making enough money to make it viable for them. premiums on average up 20% this year, in some cases like arizona much more, deductibles up. that said, 20 million more people have insurance than before the law was enacted and the percentage of americans without health insurance has dropped from 16% down to 11%. so tom, let s just talk mano e mano. we re business guys, there s math and it s basic. regardless of politics and where you think obamacare should go and whether you like it or not, to have people with preexisting conditions remain on these policies and to have kids remain on their parents policies, you haveo have that individual mandate. no one s come up with different way of doing this yet. prident obama didn t like the idea initially and he had to succumb because the actuaries told him that s the only way you can do it. this is an insurance concept. you re absolutely right and that s not a political discussion. if you keep certain elements everybody seems to like how do you pay for it if you re not requiring people to pay in, how are you going to do this? the republican side has talked about certain types of penalties if you will, that s not the correct phraseology. credits and tax credits, but again, there are other republicans saying that s not republican orthodoxy, just a wolf in sheep s clothing. certain elements of obamacare which were not part of the law eight years ago are prebaked into this conversation. there doesn t appear to be any appetite for losing the law which requires people to, which allows people to have insurance even if they have a preexisting condition, that 26-year coverage for 26 years old and under is popular, there s certain portions of this which now may become simply part of the fabric of the country, much as social security when fdr proposed that, that was unpopular. tom great to talk to you as always. i want to bring in congresswoman barbara lee of california, staunch advocate of the ofordable care act and opposes any efforts to repeal or replace it. congresswoman thank you for beingith us. some said earlier it s like the dog that caught the car. they ve got it now and they are struggling with the very things this my colleague tom costello says they re struggling with. there are parts of obamacare that are remarkably popular. what are you going to do if you re a republican? i would say the majority of the affordable care act is very, very popular. when you look at what people have said throughout the country, at town meetings, it s don t take away my health care, don t make america sick again. i don t know how the republicans are going to get out of this. they can t repeal this. 30 million people will lose health care coverage and we re not going to go there, and so i thank the people of the country for organizing, mobilizing, raising their voices and making sure that the affordable care act is not repealed. let me give you the hits i m getting from this, a sound bite from house speaker ryan s conference or he made some comments this morning about why he thinks they re going to get away with repeal and reform. listen. the democrats admitted very clear with us they don t have any interest in repealing owe pa ma cai obamacare. they want to go down with a sinking ship, they want to go down with a collapsing law. yesterday they said it will collapse under its own weight. surely as a democrat you can see there are some problems around the edges or maybe even closer to the middle with obamacare that some form of reform could be useful. first with regard to tinkering around the edges, fixing what the problems are, correcting some of the problems, fine. but we re talking about allowing a full repeal of the affordable care act. to the republicans don t take away my health care. it s really unfortunate that the president didn t really realize how difficult this is. that s pretty ignorant. my grandchildren knew how difficult it was to put together a health care plan that would cover all americans regardless of their income level, background or where they lived. even in west virginia, black lung disease is covered now, people suffering from that have coverage. people aren t going to let this administration take away their health care and we ll fight to the end. the president and the administration often talk about arizona, they often talk about premiums, having spiked 20% in some areas. how do you address those things, insurers who are leaving certain areas? look, i like to correct people that the increase in insurance rates is slower over the last five years than it was in the previous five years but insurers have left in some areas, so should the democrats come up with their own replacement? the first thing we have to do is make sure that the 30 million people who are covered do not lose their health care. once we do that, if there are fixes that we have to engage in, then okay. but right now we re not going to allow this administration to take away health care from people who desperately need it. this is a matter of life and death. preventative health care, all of the coverages that people receive now, their premiums would go up if in fact the republican ideas are put into place and we re not going to let that happen. so we re going to continue to work with our constituents and to help organize around the country, so people, the republicans excuse me and speaker ryan and the president, so they understand that people do not want to lose their health care coverage. congresswoman, you said your grandchildren would understand it was complicated. i suspect you have unnaturally smart grandchildren. thanks for spending time with me. they are very smart. to that issue of health care let s get a quick check on today s microsoft pulse question. many say health care is broken. is it too complicated to fix? 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the tsa has 20 layers of aviation security. it s from canines to protection. there s two layers that come to mind when i review that cctv or surveillance footage. he was on a death march, really. and what we have to look at, there s two layers that come to mind when i think about this. there s the intelligence layer, what did we know before he came to the airport? and the no-fly list, much more in depth where you would prevent him from flying. intelligence has a ceiling on what they can do in terms of stopping individuals like that from flying. and i m sure as the days roll out, we ll hear more about what was known before he embarked on an airport. earlier, i spoke with the broward county sheriff, this is how he sees precautions to be tragedy often times to promulgate change. hopefully we see hard-core change here. something to change. thank you, gentlemen. appreciate it. we re also learning more about esteban santiago s past. assault charges involving a girlfriend, hearing voices in his head. and asking for help. dan simon traveled to santiagoss town in anchorage to learn more about his past. reporter: his troubles began after serving time in iraq, relatives say. esteban santiago spent ten months in the war-torn country. his brother said the changes in him were apparent. translator: they had him hospitalized for four days. and then, they let him go. how are you going to let someone leave a psychological center after four days when he s saying he s hearing voices. that the cia is telling him to to shoot someone. reporter: despite the interaction with santiago, he was not placed on a no-fly list. there had been concerns raised why he was not placed on a no-fly list. i want to be clear, during our initial investigation, we found no ties to terrorism. he broke no laws when he came into our office, making disjointed comments about mind control. reporter: why would someone who is disturbed get his gun back? the u.s. attorney in alaska says there s no legal basis to prevent him from having it. a judge would have needed to declare him mentally defective to deny him his second amendment rights. we re learning new details about the victims in the ft. lauderdale airport. most were on vacation. michael oehme of council bluffs, iowa, was about to go on a cruise with his wife. e was killed when the shots rang out in the area. his wife was shot in the shoulder and is expected to recover. he leaves behind one adulter. olga woltering, was also about to go on the cruise with her husband, ralph. according to wxia. the couple is from marietta, georgia, and had planned the trip to celebrate her husband s 90th birthday. he was not injured in the shooting. the wolterings were married for 64 years. and terry andres was a shipyard employ, in ft. lauderdale on vacation with his wife. the couple was celebrating andres upcoming 63rd birthday, a friend tells cnn. an trace and his wife had been married for 40 years. he leaves behind two daughters. three other people injured in the shooting are in critical condition. we ll be right back. this is your daughter. and she just got this. ooh boy. but, you ve got hum. so you can set this. and if she drives like this, you can tell her to drive more like this. because you ll get this. you can even set boundaries for so if she should be here, but instead goes here, here, or here. you ll know. so don t worry, mom. because you put this, in here. hum by verizon. the technology designed to make your car smarter, safer and more connected. put some smarts in your car. sign up for free today. isjust wanna see ifa again? 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in addition to i should say, police have made nine arrests, as part of the investigation. five are family members of the attacker, as you said, was shot and killed at the scene. i ll walk you back through what happened. about 1:30 p.m. local time. right along the walkway a particular walkway, not only for security forces and soldiers, but for pedestrians and tourists because it as a beautiful view of old city of jerusalem. a number of soldiers had gotten off of the bus as a tour, and that s when the attack happened. the truck driver drove straight for a group of soldiers getting off of the bus. and then, it seems he reverses his truck and drives back over some of the soldiers there. the horrible outcome is that four were killed. three women and one man. and a number of others were injured, all in their 20s. benjamin netanyahu who visited the scene and said, what they know fromty a tacker, us was from a nearby neighborhood, that the attacker was a supporter of isis. we hear from the police spokes pen pern saying there was no isis cells in jerusalem. but it points to a lone wolf attack. and that is what security forces are trying to pinpoint and figure out how to prevent from now on. how do you stop this attack from happening again? it s a struggle for forces here and in yurm, in particular. that s the focus as they try to figure out, was there advance notice? could they have prevented this one to better prevent the next one? are authorities revealing anything more about why they believe he was a supporter of isis? what s the impetus for that statement? reporter: little information about that. it was a statement from netanyahu when he said he was a supporter of isis. it surprised us because you don t hear about isis in israel, jerusalem or the west bank. as police pointed out, isis doesn t have a foothold here. it s not something you hear about. israel has quietly cracked down on isis supporters. people spreading propaganda or trying to fight for isis in syria. but it s not a major terrorist organization here. they don t have a foothold. and it s not something you hear about very often. and that s why we need to keep in mind the police spokesperson, when he said this is not new rye sis terrorist cell. there are none of those. and it s critical as they try to prevent the next from happening. turning a truck into a weapon is something we saw in berlin and niece, as well. devastating effect in all three incidents. coming up, the gop vows to repeal obamacare. president barack obama says if they have a better alternative, he would support it. can republicans come up with a cheaper and more effective plan? 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obamacare sends money to insurers and states. and this trickles down to hospitals and other providers. that trickles down to hospital workers and vendors and other people. there was a recent study that said, if key provisions of obamacare were repealed, 3 million could lose jobs. state and local governments can lose billions in taxes. health care is an important engine in our country. what you re underscoring, it s not just the people on the plan. but a lot of people who would who are either directly or indirectly involved in the plan? yeah. a lot of people think that obama care is only for people on the exchanges or people who are getting coverage through medicate expansion. a lot of people don t realize it has many tentacles. it made some revisions to medicare. used to have the doughnut hole, where seniors had to pay for prescriptions. seniors will pay less for prescriptions. now, everyone can get prescription everyone can get contraceptives for free and mammograms on the employer plan. people on the job have benefits, if they have cancer or hit by a car, insurance is not going to set a limit as much it will pay for the care. it s quite wide ranging. tami, thank you very much. next, a top aide for donald trump speaks out about russia s hacking of the u.s. election and its impact on the vote. plus, the red carpet is rolled out and ready for the golden globe awards. a live report from hollywood coming up. your insurance company [vo] quickbooks introduces he teaches lessons to stanley. and that s kind of it right now. but rodney knew just what to do.he got quickbooks. it organizes all his accounts, so he knows where he stands in an instant. ahhh.that s a profit. which gave him the idea to spend a little cash on some brilliant marketing! ha, clever. wow, look at all these new students! way to grow, rodney! know where you stand instantly. visit quickbooks.com. election. she spoke to jake tapper this morning and would not criticize vladimir putin. even after president-elect trump received a briefing from top intelligence officials, outlining the case for russian hacking. as he been persuaded that they carried out cyber campaign against hillary clinton and what is he prepared to do about it? 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not that i know of. in 2009, when president obama took office, i believe i think i m correct on this, on the same day he was sworn in, the day of his inauguration, seven of his cabinet members were sworn in. mcconnell and everyone else didn t like that. there was some moving around. the process is swift and you know, went pretty well. president-elect trump has, i believe, eight that are up for confirmation process. part of the challenge with trump s picks are that they are outside of the washington, you know, sort of set. right? so, they re outsiders. they have more complicated finances. and you know, they have more complicated entanglements, financial entanglements. but i suspect at the end of the day, this is all of these nominees are probably going to go through. mainly because they have the votes. potentially nominees have potential conflicts. that s why some on the hill have concerns. we understand that, you know, there are some nominees who are in question in terms of whether all of the paperwork has been filed. there s conflicting reports about this, by the way. john kelly, for dhs, betsy roth for the information of the ethics office to move forward on the confirmation hearings? it s a process. it s not just filling out a piece of paper and disclosing it to the senate. the idea is to have a process where people learn things about their own finances, their own conflicts of interest that they might not have known before. famously, there are nominees that discovered they had a quote/unquote nanny problem. and it was only through the vetting process they realized that somebody they had been paying to work in their home had supplied them with a fake social security number. that s what happened to bernie carrick when he was nominated for homeland security. you have a process that s supposed to, according to mitch mcconnell himself, by the way, in the past. he said, you should not schedule the hearing until the information has been given to the office of government ethics, has been delivered to the senate and that the senators have had a chance to look through it. that s what the process is supposed to be about. not simply, you know, voting for them just because it s inauguration day. if that s true, according to the senate democratic source that some of the people have not filed the proper paperwork, then, salena, you know, how unusual would it be if the democrats were to do this or there were some movement to say, let s delay some of the hearings or confirmation for some of the candidates until after inauguration? right. well, you know, the republicans hair would catch on fire if that would happen. and it was a democratic cabinet nominee. the ethics office is saying one thing. the transition team is saying another the we ll find out on inauguration day. i do know they are really preparing a lot of these cabinet nominees for some intense, you know, grueling questions, on the hill. these are people that have never, ever had their lives peeled back in the way that they do in these senate confirmation hearings. i know they are getting prepared. but you know, we are dealing with a different kind of cabinet. and it s going to be, probably, a different kind of process. meantime, errol, there s been many delays. there was a mid-december late. and the latest date is wednesday. and it happens to be the second day of the confirmation hearings. will there be a conflict here? we ll see. you know, we re talking about five months now. this is almost clintonesque if you go back to the last real press conference. i hope it would be a true press conference or not a gaggle or swift questions followed by departure. we have to hope it is not intended as a distraction, a bait and switch, where something is thrown out to grab headlines, while the real action is on capitol hill, where the cabinet nominees are being questioned. the transition team, you know, to their credit, they ve acknowledged they re doing more work faster than they planned to because they didn t think they were going to win on november 8th. now that they are sort of the team that has to kind of put together a government, they have a backlog of questions. and every day they refuse to answer questions or to hold a press conference, i think the backlog got bigger and bigger. i hope that the reporters get a chance to throw out questions during this press conference. do a good and efficient job of getting to the heart of many, many of the conflict of interest questions and others that have been brewing for five months. and questions about conflicts within his own family. having family members working for him with the business dealings, et cetera. and then, the tax returns. donald trump promising that after elected he would reveal those. so, i m sure he will be pepper ld with a lot of questions along those lines from reporters. salena, errol, thank you very much. coming up, one of trump s national security picks facing questions over plagiarism. kay file broke this story. we have details, next. family road trip! fun! check engine. not fun! but, you ve got hum. that s like driving with this guy. all you do is press this, and in plain english, coolant , you ll know what s wrong. if you do need a mechanic, just press this. thank you for calling hum. and if you really need help, help can find you, automatically, 24/7. because you put this, in here. hum by verizon. the technology designed to make your car smarter, safer and more connected. put some smarts in your car. so we know how to cover almost alanything.ything, even mer-mutts. (1940s aqua music) (burke) and we covered it, february third, twenty-sixteen. . . seen a thing or two. we are farmers. bum-pa-dum, bum-bum-bum-bum president-elect s cab me picks, monica crowley has been picked for the detector of national communications. in her book what the bleep just happened found dozens of examples of plagiarism. that is almost identical senior editor of cnn s k-file andrew kaczynski. how many of incidents are we talking about of plagiarism? this is 60 incidents of plagiarism. it includes wikipedia, a lot of times we saw monica crowley taking, basically wholesale this work of other columnists, changes words, changing the tenses from have to has. and even throwing on some of the same conclusions of these people in their columns just in slightly different words. how did you find this when her publishers did not? a lot of the cases that she said existed in the stimulus were very obviously copied. something interesting we found was this big listing of things that were very outrageous that existed in the stimulus package were not listed in the stimulus package at all. when we went look for where these came from, a podiatrist, of all people dating back to 2004. basically the first example about tattoo removal was an example of the stimulus and the other 20 were from this podiatrist s website. so some. so some of the inaccuracies were red flags, have you heard from the trump team about this? the trump transition standing by crowley, they have basically said our article is a politically motivated attack. they actually cited this body of work as part of the reason for why she was hired saying, you know, this was her manifesto for taking back america. the publisher has oddly not issued any statement or responded to any of our e mail ors phone calls requesting comment and crowley herself has not responded either. and then we have several instances of plagiarism, including melania trump s convention speech. basically we have melania, e were a lot of people that have written a lot of words, for all we know, there could be a lot of examples like reporters and people like us are going to be looking into. andrew kaczynski, thank you very much. for more on andrew s article about crowley s credibility you ll find on cnn.com. we re back in a moment. with lubriderm. absorbs in seconds. moisturizes for hours. lubriderm. every body care. a nutritious formula with no artificial flavors. made specifically for indoor cats. purina cat chow. nutrition to build better lives. why are you checking i want to see if it changed. credit scores don t change that much do they? 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but, david, she moved on to say she s convinced a trade deal between the u.s. and the ucla is in both kun and the u.k. is in both country s interest but we didn t get a lot of detail. president trump believes in one-on-one trade deals specifically to the exclusion of multi lateral trade deals and would like to get a trade deal done with the united kingdom, particularly after brexit. i think he sees this as a big achievement and binding of president u.k. and united states that have moved at least in his view in a more nationalist direction. that s what he would like to do. i thought the prime minister s comments about nato were so fascinating, really, because there are so many people around the world, u.s. allies, republicans here at home, that are so concerned that trump could diminish the importance of nato as a part of our foreign policy. and they re all trying to tell news the media rest assured trump desiren t believe what respective countries. sandra: and this, david, is coming ahead of the phone call that we believe is happening tomorrow. he was asked about that, he said he believes that has been set up. that conversation would be happening tomorrow. what did you think of his comments leading up to that? well, you know, the interesting thing about russia and vladimir putin, the president never hesitates to say in his words, good, bad or indifferent, about other u.s. adversaries. but he carved out russia for special status. makes you wonder if he s going tossian reset. i don t think the question is whether or not we should have good relations with other countries. that s clearly always preferred. the question is, on whose condition. are we going to have good relationships with russia, china and other adversaries based on what s good for the united nations and the west or what s for the u.s. and the west or what s good for them. sandra: the president was also, i want to get to this sound as well, torture and terror came up in the press conference. here s what the president said on torture specifically. and what decisions he will be making on that, listen. president trump: general james mattis, and he has stated, publicly, that he does not necessarily believe in torture. i don t necessarily agree. but i would tell you that he will override because i m giving him that power. i happen to feel that it does work. i ve been open with that b. that for a long period of time. but i am going with our leaders. sandra: not necessarily what he believes in but he s relying on mattis, he says. lord taylor? well, in relation to this, the president would always put america first, remember that, he won t be the poodle of any other country, i m sure of that n relation to torture, it is imlegal, internationally. off was expressing his opinion. but president trump said he will listen to his advisors. i don t see a problem there. sandra: all right. i think the media looking for problems. be more positive, please. i believe in america. sandra: there are a lot of problems out there. i m going to have to leave it there. you have a great president. thank you. sandra: thank you, david, lord taylor. mr. trump rolls out a flurry of executive orders aimed at cracking down on illegal immigration. one border state governor is making tough moves of his own. we are in a legislative session, we are working on laws that will, one, ban sanctuary cities, we move from office any office holder who promotes sanctuary cities, impose criminal penalties as well as financial penalties. these birds once affected by oil i just want to find a used car start at the new carfax.com show me used trucks with one owner. pretty cool. [laughs] ah. ahem. show me the carfax. start your used car search at the all-new carfax.com. from my sweet dreams? thanks to tena, not tonight! only tena overnight underwear .with its secure barrier system gives you.. .triple protection from leaks, odor and moisture. tena lets you be you hard line on u.s. immigration, signing an order to build a wall along the u.s. border. that decision will have a huge impact on texas which shares more than 1200 miles of common border with mexico. almost all of that land privately owned. and some in the lone star state seem to be split on the president s plan. we can build a wall but it will be a waste of taxpayer dollars and its not going to stop people from coming across the border. we spend billions of dollars on this, we ll take a lot of local people s land for what? to slow people from crossing by two minutes? whether it s brick and mortar wall, some type of fencing, virtual fencing, technology, sensors, aerial surveillance, something needs to be put in place to help the agents. sandra: joining me is texas lt. governor dan patrick. thanks for being here this afternoon, sir. great to be with you. sandra: what do you make of the criticism you re hearing? we ve heard from the same people for a long time. they re just wrong about this issue, san drachl the president is right. we need the wall. as i mentioned yesterday when i was on fox as well, one of the reasons we need the wall, the president has said we re going to deport the criminals in this country illegally. we know, sandra, from looking at case after case after case that we deport them, they come right back. sometimes within days, to commit more crime. you want to keep out the criminals, the drug and the contraband. then you find legal immigration reform so people can cross who want to come into the country for the right reasons and the ones we say we want in the country. right now, it s still a wide open zone in many areas. sandra: i want to share with you what texas g.o.p. representative will herd is saying about the cost. he s saying building a wall is the most expensive and least effective way to secure the border. big bend national park and many areas in my district are perfect examples of where a wall is unnecessary. and would negatively impact the environment. private property rights and the economy. these are not light opinions, and they re really warning people of the state that this will damage the economy? this will damage their ability to do business? it will be costly. well, sandra, congressman heard is a terrific congressman and i was i support him. but i disagree with him in this instance. look, we have, i ve been down on the border many times. folks who have never been down there don t realize in some places it s sonar re you can throw a baseball across it. some of our crossings, can you wade across them. they re just 10 or 15 yards. can you throw a football, short pass across them. other areas are larger. where we need the wall is mainly in our big cities, our big krogings. that s where people cross illegally and disappear into the city. we need a lot of protection around our big cities. then we need walls out in specific areas along the border, where we know a lot of crossings happen, with drugs and criminals. i do agree with the concept, and i don t know what the president s full plan is, but there will be places that we can do it with technology, with air cover, with cameras. we have 4,000 cameras on the border. when you fly over as i have before in helicopters on the border, you can look down at the various paths coming over from mexico in the more remote areas. it will be a combination f i were doing it, of wall particularly in our cities. where you have major city crossings, populations 1600,000 or more, you need to extend the walls to wish people down to those remote areas. easy to spot from the air. easy to signal to the border patrol or our state troopers on the ground, to intercept those people crossing. we can do this. and the private property owners, i ve talked to many of them, i have yet to talk, i m sure there are a few concerned, but i ve yet to talk to anyone who doesn t want a secure border. and that includes their land if they have fencing or technology or a wall, i think most will want to be involved. because up until just recently, until texas put forth a big effort, they were being overrun. they were losing their property. they off would have to carry a gun to go out on their own property. it s dangerous. sandra: i want to move on to another big concern in your state energy the city of austin, texas, and the sanctuary city status. and the words that we heard from austin, texas sheriff sally hernandez, staying i m following all state and federal laws and upholding constitutional rights to due process for all in our criminal justice system. our community is safer when people can report crimes without fear of deportation. and of course that is the goal of many that achieve the sanctuary city status, so the people still come forward. your thoughts and what you would tell how would you respond to her on that? well, first of all, she is very liberal in her thinking on this issue. very clear. and my partner and governor abbott has made it very clear we re going to take money away from her if she does not follow the law. under her guidance, for example, sandra, some one could rob a bank multiple times and she would not consider that a crime to hold some one for. you don t get to select who you want to hold, you follow the federal law as well as state laws or you lose federal funding from trump and state funding from us. and we re going to be very strong about this, sandra. sandra: so be specific when you say you re going to be strong. we re going to fast track within two to three weeks pass the sanctuary city law and it will have teeth in it. sandra: how specifically will you hand that will? that s a cher any of the city of austin. they get state funding and we will hold state funding. i know the governor and our office, we re looking at all funds that go into that city. and in some of our cities in the state it s significant amount of money they need. we will hold their funds if they do not follow the law. and then, i believe president trump will hold federal funds. at some point if you don t follow the law you may find yourself in trouble with the law. all we re asking is for these sheriffs to hold the criminals that are terrorizing our cities, and any cher that i have doesn t want to do that is putting our citizens any sheriff that doesn t at one time do it is putting our citizens in danger. they will be held responsible. sandra: thanks for being here. a live look at the march for life with a, d.c. where vice president mike pence spoke not that long ago. we ll tell you where they re heading. republicans move closer to an obamacare replacement. what did they come up during their retreat? 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[ applause ] sandra: we re live from the national mall in d.c. doug, what was the reaction like to the vice president s speech? i think tremendous enthusiasm here. i think there is a pal possible sense among the marchers, that the epoc has changed. for 44 years marchers have been coming to washington in an effect to try and change row v. wade, overturn or put dents in it in one worm or another. that law has remained in effect for all of those 44 years. there is now a very palpable sense that is going to change. they have a friend in the white house. the president tweeted out this morning as they were assembling, the march for life is so important to all of you marching, you have my full support n addition, heavy hitters in the administration, kellyanne conway and vice president mike pence, who is the was high-ranking public official over to speak at this gathering, spoke here today. here s pence and some of what he had to say. it is this administration, we ll work with the congress to end taxpayer funding of abortion and abortion providers. and we will devote those resources to healthcare services for women across america. as you heard, he also said in that earlier sound bite, life is winning again. this crowd definitely senses that. you see it in the crowd. sandra: how does this play into the upcoming battle over the supreme court nominee? that s really the linchpin upon which change hinges. people are excited about president trump s pick for a nominee. we know that that s going to be announced next thursday. we also senate democrats are very much interested in trying to block that nominee, if as in the words of senate minority leader chuck schumer, that nominee is out of the mainstream. i spoke to james langford from oklahoma a while ago at the march, he said there s no way democrats can block the nominee. there are a lot of other ways to address. this we ll look at all openings on the table. at the end of the day we will have our nominee for the supreme court. and of course the president trump has said that he is no in favor of a full nuclear option. in other words, a simple majority vote to push it through. should it come to that. sandra: doug, thank you. congressional republicans wrapping up their retreat in philadelphia this morning, before heading back to washington. and a big topic of discussion, sorting through the various plans to replace obamacare. chief congressional correspondent mike emmanuel is live in washington. what are some of the ongs throughout? a range of ideas. one expert said it would be wise to offer some proposals that would get at least some democrat support. kentucky senator rand paul, a medical doctor, has a replacement plan when focuses on tax credits and health savings accounts. it would abollish many of the central components of obamacare and would encourage allowing inexpensive insurance to give people the freedom to buy the coverage they want. there is a more moderate plan from louisiana senator dr. bill cassidy and maine senator susan collins. their plan would give states the options to keep obamacare, choose a new state alternative, or design a solution without federal assistants. it would scrap the individual and employer mandates. the president s point man on healthcare was asked this week about what s next. when i commit to, senator, working with you and every single member of congress to make sure we have the highest quality healthcare and every single american has access to affordable coverage. lawmakers are facing time pressure as con congressional leadership has set a goal of repealing and replacing obamacare and doing tax reform by august. san . sandra: how is this going to work? . the leadership aids i talk to say it s not going to be 2,000 page bill. they know some changes will come in the repeal process which requires just a simple majority in terms of support. sources say the trump administration will likely scrap thousands of pages of regulations imposed by the obama team. then there will be votes on bills which would require 60 votes in the senate and at least some democrat support. a republican senator tells us the priority is getting it right. i think the president is open to whatever we can pass that solves this problem. this is not the republican s problem. this problem was caused by the democrats. we feel an obligation to fix it and we re committed to fix it. ultimately it will likely require the president and his team to identify much what they want and then fight for it. sandra: mike emmanuel, thank you. president trump heading to the pentagon within the hour for a meeting with his new defense secretary as he targets america s enemies and openly says he disagrees with him on torture. plus, president trump welcomes britain s prime minister to the white house. but british reporters not so much. what do you say to the viewers at home who are worried about some of your views and worried about you becoming the leader of the free world? president trump: this is your choice of a question? 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we know the president has given the pentagon 30 days to come up with a plan to defeat isis. some of his chiefs have already said there is no military solution to isis. trump will meet with the joint chiefs in the secure conference room at the pentagon known as the tank where he will issue a directive to the army, navy, air force and marines to accelerate efforts to defeat isis. none of the options have been signed off by the white house as of yet. but we have indication of what the pentagon will be suggesting. the plans include spend sending more special operations to syria, there are 500 troops on the ground there. deploying artillery, possibly. and apache helicopter gun ships, rocket launchers, staging them we re told on ships perhaps in the mediterranean. sandra: jennifer griffin live from the pentagon where the president will be very shortly. before heading to the pentagon, president trump held his first white house meeting with a foreign head of state, the u.c. prime minister theresa may, followed by a joint news? evens where mr. trump was asked about america s relationship with mexico. president trump: well, i think the prime minister has things she s more worried about than mexico and the united states relationship. but i will say that we had a very good call. i m not as brash as you might think. and can i tell you that, i think we re going to get along very well. sandra: marjorie is former assistant to the obama campaign and consulting. beverly hallberg the president of district media group. marjorie, you first, that was really a response that, you heard laughter from the press there. that was a response to president trump basically answering the question for theresa may, say sheeg has better things on do than worry about the relationship between the u.s. and mexico. he answered for her. then when it did come to her responding to that question, she said that s about right, we ll leave it to the u.s. and mexico. your thoughts? there was a lot more at stake for theresa may than donald trump. right now, given brexit and her need to execute on that exit from the e.u., she needs the u.s. she needs good relationships with donald trump there. s a lot of eyes on how this was going to play out. they re very, very different personality types. him being the quintessential salesman and she being more reserved and sort of a process in gray. how that was going to work out. he knew that she niedz him. that s a good position to be in. he had a lot to make up for, given the president of mexico cancelling his trip. he needed this to go well. sandra: beverly, how did you see this news conference, it was short and sweet, the answers were very to the point. some weren t even answered. your thoughts? well, i think as president so far he s kind of done the opposite what we saw on the campaign trail, which is he would speak for a long time at his rallies. when you take a look at his inaugural speech, which was very brief, then you come to this short press conference, i wonder if he s going to be a little more short and sweet. another aspect that was really interesting about this, is not only is this his first press conference, but you have two leaders that we would have never expected to be on the stage about a year ago. that is because of the working class in both countries rising up. i think the element of brexit, which they did in end the press conference on, is something you can unite on both sides of the pond. sandra: theresa may addressed the very thing that they both have in common. she said, we want to put interests of order working people first. well, it s a great talking point. it was funny, the gift she brought donald trump was a drinking cup from scotland. he celebrates his scottish heritage. he actually is a tee-totler. i wondered how that would go. finding any common ground is key. sandra: seemed like a good meeting, she said she was hon honored to meet with him and he said they had significant conversation. i want to talk about vice president pence. he spoke about trump s support at the march for life today. listen to this. that is evident in the election of pro-life majorities, in the congress of the united states of america. [ applause ] but it is no more evident in any way than in the historic election of a president who stands for a stronger america, a more prosperous america, and a president who i proudly say stands for the right to life, president donald trump. [ applause ] sandra: beverly that, headline is just about everywhere. that you look right now. what did you think of that historic moment? i was out there earlier, and i think where the energy the crowd came from, the highest elected owe firm that s ever attended the march for life. i think there was added energy, this is coming less than a week after the women s march. the thing i think is interesting, you did see these individuals coming up on one issue. especially after you had a women s march that said pro-life organizations were not allowed. this was more energetic than normal, not only balls the v.p. was there but also because women are standing up and saying, i care about the issue of life whether or not the media want to report on it or not. sandra: marjorie? the media is reporting on it. and i think what is interesting and is important about this pro-life march, as a catholic can i speak to this, pro-life is not just abortion. there it isn t a single issue, it s death penalty, how we treat refugee women and children, it s schools. when you think about life, and this administration talks about being pro-life they need to be thoughtful about how that encompasses all of the issues that are pro-life and making adoption accessible, supporting women when they re pregnant. before we have that conversation we can t move on to issues of abortion. sandra: it has been a big day and there is still a lot going on. the president is about to arrive at the pentagon. thanks to both of you ladies for being here. thank you. sandra: tens of thousands are taking to the streets for the annual march for life rally, president trump is closing in on his choice to fim the vacancy on the supreme court. with major implications for the roe vs. wade decision. mr. trump charting a new course after pulling out of the trance pacific trade deal, why america s farmers are anxiously watching the president s every move. 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yeah, that s right, as you know this trade issue is so intertwined and such a state of flux. mexico central to the nafta deal, was also one of the 12 countries involved in the tpp. with that trade deal now dead, exporters throughout the u.s. are worried about future growth. washington state run as big trade surplus with major companies like boeing, microsoft. farmers are also important players. one-third of the state s apples are exported, 60% of all potatoes shipped abroad. the big concern is china which is the biggest producer of potatoes and always focused on more exports. if we lose market share we lose the ability to produce our product. if we lose that capacity, then we ll see a reduction in our acres. which impacts rural washington state dramatically. in 2013, washington state had exports total in value of $82 billion. that was one-eighth of the u.s. total that year. sandra? sandra: and farmers are hopeful trump can get the job done? yeah, it s interesting, they were both hopeful and also worried. most of those people we talked to are trump supporters. they believe he can work very quickly in replacing the tpp. but the big question is, would these bilateral trade dpreements that follow address the concerns of many who oppose t.p.p. all of those touched by trade will be watching closely. we continue to believe that we can find the best pieces of that agreement and maybe they ll carry forward into a new vehicle down the road. and trade experts say that the value of the u.s. dollar is also critical. that s something president trump is also addressing, saying it might be overvalued right now. sandra: dan, good to see you live from seattle. as we follow the march for life rally in our nation s capital, there s also activity at the supreme court. as we look ahead, to president trump s imminent nomination for the vacancy created by the death of justice an to nin scalia. karl cameron is live outside the high court in washington. hey, karl, a lot of anticipation over the scotus nomination. what can you tell us. the president says he s already made up his mind. we can tell you that the festivities on the mall ended about a an hour ago, the marchs are moring on the supreme court. they ve been arriving for the last 45ments or so. the supreme court block is literally ringed with demonstrators. the street in front of the capitol, between the supreme court, is absolutely jammed with demonstrators. 99.99% of the folks here today are pro-life. here at the court, there are pro-choice demonstrateors but they re outnumbered by huge amounts. the parade has been going, as i say, likely to go for another couple of hours. organizers say this is the biggest crowd they have had for the march for life. and clearly, they re very enthusiastic about what donald trump is likely to pick. they know that the president said he s almost made up his mind. mr. trump has not left the possibility of changing his mind at the last minute but told shawn hannity that in his mind he s made up that mind, we re going to have to wait until thursday. sandra: made up his mind and expected to make that announcement thursdays you mention, karl, for his pick for the supreme court. what can you tell us, what more do you know about that? well, the president has said that he started with a list of 21 potential supreme court picks. it was a list that he had help from the heritage foundation and the federal society picking. all 21 of them are pro-life. the president has said those he does not pick for the supreme court will be used to pick for appellate and district courts around the country. this is the vacant seat left by the demise of antonin scalia, one of the more conservative jr.ists to sit on the high court. republicans believe they can and should be able to replace and fill that seat with very, very conservative a very, very conservative nominee. mr. trump has said he s narrowed it down. aids say it s probably down to three and perhaps as few as two. neil gorsuch from denver is an originalist, a constitutionalist, very much in the mold of scalia. tom hardiman has a sister on the court in pittsburgh, he s high on the list. and then william pryor, who was considered to be a frontrunner but seems to have fallen into disfavor for a trans hive gender decision. sandra: we will be back. ir e. i just snapped a photo and got an estimate in 24 hours. decision. sandra: we will be back. definitely doesn t have that. you can leave worry behind when liberty stands with you™ liberty mutual insurance [phone buzzing] some things are simply impossible to ignore. the strikingly designed lexus nx turbo and hybrid. the suv that dares to go beyond utility. this is the pursuit of perfection. 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