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Some who have offered to do so, but we are not looking for that at this moment, anyway. A former vice chief warns air strikes wont be enough while a former cia chief predicts that reality will result in special forces on the ground by years end. The only way we can think about destroys isis in this particular strategy is that the forces on the ground will have to do the destroying. I actually think were going to end up with small American Special Operations Forces, active in this broad theater, both iraq and syria. I do think we get to about 5,000 by the end of the year. What if thats what it ...

Some who have offered to do so, but we are not looking for that at this moment, anyway. A former vice chief warns air strikes wont be enough while a former cia chief predicts that reality will result in special forces on the ground by years end. The only way we can think about destroys isis in this particular strategy is that the forces on the ground will have to do the destroying. I actually think were going to end up with small American Special Operations Forces, active in this broad theater, both iraq and syria. I do think we get to about 5,000 by the end of the year. What if thats what it ...

russell, who recorded the call, was also fined $10,000, in addition to the penalties against henson. >> a judgment for $1 million. what do you make of that? >> wow. basically, that is unprecedented in this country. >> reporter: henson maintains the law he is charged with violates free speech. and says the judge's ruling in his civil case is unfair. >> no trial, no evidence, nothing. and you come with this sa -- salacious amount of money? a million dollars for a phone call? on the face of it, it's ridiculous. >> if a political consultant gets hit with a $1 million charge for insidious...