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promises about extremism, he intends to follow through on that. i think that will affect the electorate a great deal. >> facts, data, and messaging. steve bannon and reena shaw, thank you so much. coming up, you will never believe what is now being targeted in rhonda sentences florida. hint, hundreds of years old, vital to the english language, and has terrorized seventh graders for generations. that will be right after the break on velshi. i'm charles coleman junior sitting in for ali velshi. stay tuned, we'll be right back. be right back repairs hair. as well as the leading luxury bonding treatment. for softness and resilience, without the price tag. if you know... you know it's pantene. pano ai chooses t-mobile for business for 5g solutions... ...because t-mobile helps pano ai innovate, so they can stop the spread of wildfires. now's the time to see what america's

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talked about in his gettysburg address. and here we have a party that is embracing someone as despicable as donald trump who was antithetical to anything that republicans claim to believe. everything they claim to despise, they have become. and they continue to if -- it is not trump, then it is desantis who is a fascist wannabe. so this seems to be this idea of wokeism culture wars because they don't have anything else to run on. they have to have a villain. they have to create this cruelty and extremism and otherize people because the economic message and the message of democracy, freedom, and pluralistic society that doesn't apply to the rabid base of republicans anymore. and that's what concerns me. that's why we have to continue to fight to explain why democracy matters and why freedoms and rights for everyone in this country, that's what we're here for. >> reena, taking those points that tara has laid out there, the social issues that have animated the sort of

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a republican strategist and advisor for the new democracy initiative. and tara setmayer, senior adviser to the lincoln project, and former gop communications director. she now identifies as an independent and a publicly left the gop in november 2020 after trump refused to concede the election to joe biden. welcome, ladies. good to have you both. tara, i'm gonna start with you because many of these candidates that are competing for the republican nomination in this cycle seem to actually be pushing out harder this culture war language. just last week a top advisor for that desantis campaign said this to axios. quote, the fight for the soul of the republican party is not about tax cuts or trade deals. it is this cultural combat that we have as a country. these people know that desantis is a culture warrior for this

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leave more than a seed of reasonable doubt able to be planted, as to whether i actually can make my case. >> laura brought up, reena, interesting point. i was talking to tim parlatore about this to. obviously, according to the washington post, trump rebuffed efforts by his lawyers to accommodate doj early in this process. but as a candidate, i mean, is it really in his best interest to get to an actual trial here? >> you know, if i read that report directly, they also suggested he settle. for trump, settling would be seen as losing. i don't know if former president trump was a frank sinatra fan, i think he's always living up to the words of i did it my way. that's just trump for you. >> another and argue ration song. >> that's a distant memory for me. he will put his spin on everything. he understands that that is going to win him the hearts and minds of republicans. they can rally around him. >> does that say anything to you? >> you, know i'm hesitant to look at those polls right now.

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at issue here, how to show this sensitive material to a jury, and to the public. the former president's lawyers have already started this process of obtaining security clearances, so they can get started in this case. this latest indictment is already having an impact on voter sentiment. a new cnn poll shows that 47% of republican voters say that trump remains their first choice for the party's nomination. but that is actually down from the 53% that it was in may. also of note, the share of gop voters who say they would not support trump under any circumstances has jumped from 16% now to 23% in just the last month. back with me, laura coates, bradley moss and reena shaw. bradley, i want to talk to you about the complications with the documents at issue here. normally, the doj in the government, they don't like to take these cases to court. they are very, very sensitive. so, do you think that they

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past, the decision about whether or not to charge a sitting or former president of the united states is not a little deal. there are only two people in the united states who are subject to election by all the people. the president and the vice president. and he's a candidate now for office. again that raises some substantial questions. >> yeah. we could be, as a country, on the cusp of a very significant series of decisions being made by this justice department as it relates to former president donald trump. sara, maggie, robert and reena, thank you very much for all of that. coming up next for us, debt deadlock. just nine days until a possible default and still no deal to raise the nation's debt ceiling. progressives like congress woman alexandria ocasio-cortez are warning the president not to budge. and she joins me live next. ♪ helping them achieve financial freedom.m. we're investiting for our cliens in the projects that power our economy.

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appearing in a live conversation on twitter with elon musk. we're already getting word that donald trump and his allies are making plans to upend that announcement and maggie haberman will join us in a moment. and just a reminder of how wide open and unpredictable these races are, just take a look at the republican primary polls from this month back in 2015. marco rubio and jeb bush both led the pack. donald trump, he started just 3% tied with george pataki and speaking of polls, fast forward to right now. new cnn numbers show that republicans, they smell blood. president biden's approval rating just hit 40%, the lowest number since last summer. it is also lower than trump's approval rating at the same point in his term. and joining me tonight is senior media reporter for axios sara fisher, "new york times" senior political correspondent maggie haberman, reena shaw and

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and media analyst for npr, cnn 's elena trini, jamal simmons, former communications director tobias president harris, and reena shaw, a republican strategist. i'll start with you, jamal. there is, can we just call out the hypocrisy here. when you saw, that what did you see but the two of them? you can all watch it, it's not something that happened in the dark, you can see what's going on there. >> listen, it wasn't the most sophisticated debate on capitol hill. you can't articulate that, but what's concerning. congresswoman taylor greene, she felt threatened by somebody, who as you said, was laughing, gesturing, in the middle of a crowd of people. she also said that he's not smart. jamal bowman has a doctorate in education, founded a school. he led a school for ten years. as he said, it all goes back to

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sector. you are representing people here. and the other part of this that i will be interested in, as we go on -- because, we know we have a high life expectancy here, is how we look at women. in politics. because look at nancy pelosi looking all good over there. and look at diane feinstein. when she doesn't look well, my gosh, we come right out with the knives. and four main, we don't do that. we don't remark on them looking as and while, and we talk about nancy -- we'll, we forget her age. it's not far behind biden. in fact a year older than biden if i'm not mistaken. so this is a situation that has he's a tough one. but, my gosh, it's got to go. it's not wrong to call for her to say hey. it's time. it's time. >> thank you to all of you, eric, rana jamal, reena, i am so happy that you're here with me today no one wants to hear me talk all this time. all right. >> thank you. >> coming up next, rapper fat joe is here on the set demanding laws be enforced and he is demanding laws be enforced after an order from the trump administration, we will explain, plus is new york

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