tonight. this is one of the backward and nasty executive orders the president has issued. also today thousands of anti-abortion protesters gathered in washington for the annual march for life. mike pence told the crowd the president would announce a supreme court nominee soon and trump hinted strongly at the person he s choosing. the person i pick will be a big, big i think people are going to love it. i think evangelicals, christians will love my pick. and we ll be represented very fairly. jeff zeleny begins our coverage tonight out front at the white house. trump signing a flurry of executive orders this week, up to 14, but these on immigration, do they really have teeth? reporter: indeed they do. the ones that he signed late today, they do sort of play out exactly what he talked about in the campaign, extreme vetting. it should come as no surprise, but they are going at the heart of refugees coming here to the country, particularly syrian refugees. the white house just moments ago actually released some of these orders. we are looking through them right now. but they do specifically focus muslim majority countries. this is all coming on a day when here at the white house he opened his doors for the first time to a foreign leader. i m not as fresh as you might think. reporter: president trump welcomed british prime minister theresa may to the white house pledging to uphold the special relationship with the you can you can you c united kingdom. great days lie ahead for our two peoples and our two countries. reporter: the world was watching for the first meeting with the foreign leader. yet it was the more challenging diplomatic test he s facing with mexico and russia that took center stage, the president taking steps to cool an escalating standoff with mexico. he spoke on the phone for nearly an hour today with mexican president enrique pena nieto, who cancelled a trip to the u.s. over trump s demand that mexico could do it without congress. something congress is likely to take issue with. it s something i have the right to do, something i can impose if i want. we are getting along actually very well with the mexican government. we ll see what happens. reporter: a week into his presidency, he said it s too early to say whether he will lift sanctions imposed by president obama against russian president vladimir putin. he s set to talk with putin by phone on saturday. after being criticized for his praise of the russian leader, mr. trump took a more measured approach today. how the relationship works out i won t be able to tell you that later. i ve had many times where i d thought i d get along with people and i don t like them at al all. and i ve had some i didn t think i would have much of a relationship and it turned out to be much of a relationship. reporter: the president said he believes waterboarding and other forms of torture work but would follow the lead of james research that the there are far more christians than muslims. this year the number of muslims ticked up because you had so many leaving syria and the vast majority of refugees leaving syria are muslim. specifically syria, the percentage of religions coming out of there and into the u.s. 99% muslim, less than 1% christian. to be clear, the population of syria sl almost not exclusively but the vast majority of people are muslim. latest numbers we have, 93% of the population is muslim, 5% christian. i should note that in recent years many of the christians have fled that country because of the dangers that donald trump is talking about. and most of them are concentrated around the damascus area. so donald trump is implying actually more than implying, saying in a statement the u.s. made it more difficult for christians to come in than muslims. the fact is the u.s. does not look at religion, does not give christian or muslim a benefit. it looks at the status of the refugee. the reason you have more muslim refugees coming from syria is there are more muslim refugees trying to flee syria, not because the u.s. has imposed some sort of advantage on muslim versus christian. jim sciutto, thank you very much. laying out those facts there. democratic senator jeff merkley sits in the senate foreign relations committee among others. you heard president trump say he will give priority to christian refugees. what do you think of that? i think it goes against the fundamental nature of freedom of religion in our country. it s a foundation we don t discriminate on the basis of religion. when it comes to refugee, chiselled into the foundation of the base of the statue of liberty, it says give us your tired, your poor, your huddled masses yearning to breathe free, the oppressed and afflicted of the world, not those of one religion or another. i m particularly concerned about the second half of his order addressing basically being a muslim registration operation. so i want to ask you about that. you re talking about a muslim registry. we have the order now so it would be a temporary ban on visas from a group of muslim majority countries. when he signed this executive order earlier tonight he spoke about what he wanted to accomplish. i m establishing new vetting measures to keep radical islamic terrorists out of the united states of america. we don t want them here. we know the san bernardino attacks were carried out by a woman who had come to the united states from pakistan. better vetting may have stopped her. she and her husband killed 14 innocent people. isn t trump right to establish new vetting procedures? we had this model in place and it didn t produce a single prosecution because those who would do us harm are going to circumvent that basic process. but what this does do is it feeds right into the isis message to recruit terrorists, which is that america is conducting a war on islam. so we ve had this before. it didn t work, and in fact it caused a lot of hatred towards the united states, feeds into isis rhetoric, and that makes us less safe rather than more safe. when you look just at that case as an example, they didn t check social media, didn t do certain things. i think we could all look and say we wish they had. maybe you re saying extreme vetting wouldn t accomplish that, but is he wrong to say that those processes need to be looked at? listen, the we had this exact model in place. it didn t catch the situation that occurred in california. it didn t catch anyone, not one, but it did feed a lot of the hatred of folks who felt the united states was treating muslims as second-class citizens both inside of our country and treating muslims poorly around the world. and so if you want to add to the risk to the united states, this is a good strategy. if you want the united states to be safe, absolutely, vet our folks coming into this country. we do it. but don t do it on a religious basis. so today the president, in addition to those orders he signed today, haeld press conference with the british prime minister. he talked about the weight of the office and how it has turned him towards god. this was in an interview with the christian broadcasting network. i ve always felt the need to pray, and you know that, so i would say that the office is so powerful that you need god even more because your decisions are no longer, gee, i m going to build a building in new york or i m going to do these are questions of massive life and death. there s almost not a decision that you make when you re sitting in this position that isn t a really life-altering position. so god comes into it even more so. when you hear him talk about god, does that make you more comfortable he s assuming the weight of his office or make you less comfortable? i ve been hoping as he assumes the mantel of leadership he d step back from a lot of the conspiracy and hatred of groups and start to represent all of our nation and understand how important these decisions are. i was very concerned about his comments about nuclear weapons, nuclear arms race, because if you take someone who has a massive ego and isn t taking a decision seriously, we could make mistakes that could harm the entire planet. so that s a very thoughtful statement and seeking spiritual guidance. that is a good thing. i must say, however, though, i hope he ll bring much more of that concern as he nominates people for his administration because what we have seen as a man who campaigned, he campaigned against wit wall street, he campaigned for worker, and he campaigned for draining the swamp, but we re getting the swamp cabinet of big oil, big banks, and billionaires who are very poor fit for running the departments that he s assigned them to. senator merkley sh, apprecia your time. you re welcome. next, president trump says one man has proof of massive voter fraud. who is he? 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drew griffin is out front. reporter: where does donald trump get his information of massive voter fraud? not from study after study, report after report, analysis after analysis that has found no evidence but from a nonprofit group that has released no evidence. its leading voice is the former executive director of the mississippi republican party. he s now ceo of a health data company based in texas and a conspiracy theorist, and this morning on cnn s new day greg phillips wouldn t say what his proof actually is. you said we know 3 million illegally voted. we didn t name a soul, a person. will you? yes. do you have the proof? yes. will you provide it? yes. can i have it? no. why? we re going to release everything to the public. when? as soon as we get done with the checks. president trump apparently can t wait either. after greg phillips appearance, the president tweeted, look forward to seeing final results of vote stand. greg phillips and crew say at least 3 million votes were illegal. we must do better. votestand is greg phillips mostly empty app site with no proof of anything. it s affiliated with true the vote, a nonprofit that raised a million dollars in 2014 according to its latest tax filing. paid half of that amount in salaries including $120,000 to its director, who raises money by hiring private fund-raisers and posting frightening but vague youtube posts like this. is election fraud a real problem? yes. how bad is it? well, we have over 800 convictions listed in our online convictions database, but that number does not scratch the surface because for every case of fraud that s actually run through the multiyear gauntlet of litigation that s generally necessary to get a conviction, another hundred cases are never prosecuted at all. how does she know that? good question. here are the facts. there is no proof of widespread voter fraud in the united states. in study after study, republican-led, democratic-led, independent-led, academic led, going back years and years, no one has been able to prove there is systemic vote fraud in u.s. elections. and we ve been down this road before. in 2002, republican president george bush with his republican attorney general john ashcroft launched the ballot access and voting integrity initiative to crack down on election crimes including vote fraud. after six years, the total number of people convicted for voter fraud, less than 150. a rutgers professor who analyzed data from the initiative concluded the percentage of illegal votes was statistically zero. and as for the elected secretaries of state who actually run elections in their states, not one, republican or democrat, has voiced any concern about massive voter fraud in the november 8 election prompting the national association of secretaries of state to say we are not aware of any evidence that supports the voter fraud claims made by president trump. apparently not enough evidence for the president. drew griffin joins me now. also with me our washington bureau chief from the daily beat, david chalian. drew, you ve gone through the facts. we re hearing these assertions they say they ll come forward and have names. is it possible there s any way, that there s some evidence the secretaries of state have missed and everyone else has missed and there are millions of illegal votes? no. i don t know how else we can go over this but no. the people in charge of the elections are secretaries of state. that was a powerful statement. house speaker paul ryan has said i ve found no evidence. in a december 1st file big trump s own attorneys, all available evidence suggests the 2016 general election was not tainted by fraud. some people, erin, are going to watch this and think we re all involved in a conspiracy, a media conspiracy, to hide the fact that 3 million to 5 million people voted illegally in this election, but that s a pretty big and growing conspiracy of conspirators now involving 32 republican secretaries of state i guess. pretty stunning because you have to realize that there would have had to have been coordination. this wouldn t have randomly happened sporadically all over the place. david, president trump is citing greg phillips and drew just showed us who he is. he has shown no evidence of voter fraud. you heard him there. he ll put it out when he s going to put it out, has no credibility on this issue. how dangerous is this that the president of the united states put out a tweet citing this guy by name? well, i mean, it could be dangerous. it s certainly not a wise move for the president of the united states, the leader of the free world, to be highlighting and spotlighting conspiracy theorists with no proof of what they re claiming. that s not a good thing. but i think there are two ways to think about this. if this is just donald trump smarting over the fact that he did not win the popular vote, that s one thing. and then this could be sort of a personal mission for him. but if this is donald trump as i think some of his critics fear laying the groundwork to put more strict voting regulations and rules into place to try to limit people s access to the vote, then that could become a much more serious problem. jackie, to push his unproven voter fraud allegation, trump told a story this week. he had this cocktail party at the white house and told a story about a german golfer. he said this golfer went to vote, i don t know why, but he went to vote in florida and he was turned away. latin-americans, hispanic who is he says were not citizens voted. turns out the story is not true. but trump apparently was told the story, running with it, telling people, using it to bolster his claim. what does this mean about how he s going to govern? this is governing by anecdote. i hope this isn t how. it s like an episode of gossip girl. it s not usually what comes out of the oval office. a guy told a guy who may have been that guy s cousin that there was voter fraud. it doesn t make sense. it doesn t inspire confidence. one would hope that, you know, perhaps he would get his sourcing a little better before he makes these kind of wild very serious allegations having to do with the electoral process. but, yeah, once you started digging into this, the daughter of that german golfer said trump and this golfer aren t even friends. so the whole story was sort of blown up with a couple phone calls. drew, this happened before president george w. bush ordered an investigation into voter fraud. it took six years. you report fewer than 150 people were criminally convicted. that was after six years of investigating. a lot of money spent on an investigation. trump is looking for 3 million to 5 million convictions. i just don t know where he s going with this, how he would possibly get the money to do this. obviously the republicans in his own party are just, you know, holding their nose and hoping this all goals away. but to jackie s point, you know, i heard the same thing out in the street. i was in fayetteville, north carolina. you hear these stories. a guy comes up and says a bus driver told me he drove around black church members to voting place to voting place. they believe this stuff. you start asking questions like oh, really? do you know the bus driver? no. do you know the bus company? no. do you remember the cloud cover of the bus? no. but they believe it and this is the kind of conspiracy theorys that keep driving these issues. one other point. if there are 3 million to 5 million illegal votes, why is it only donald trump who is complaining? there are other people on the ballot. and even if the white house recently pointed to california and new york, don t you think that if you were somebody on the ballot in california and new york and you lost that you would be raising nobody else is raising this concern. if those votes came in certain states it would have flipped the election so if hillary clinton thought there was anything in this, she would be yelling loud and clear. thanks to all three and drew for that amazing reporting. next, president trump s threatening a massive tax on mexico. my guest is the founder of patrone tequila. he says americans will pay that price. and our special series takes you to the u.s./mexican border. footage from inside tunnels used by smugglers and immigrants. the imagination of people trying to illicitly trying to come north is something i don t second guess. they re incredible. 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oh, i m sure it probably did. but we re also still talking there s a lot of stuff they have to move. reporter: homeland security officials say in the last ten years nearly 30 tunnels have been discovered just in the san diego area alone. they will continue to go on between the u.s. and mexican border, yes, it will continue. there s a way that these drug trafficking organizations can stay undetected and it s by tunneling, they will. reporter: this is usually a wbr-id= wbr20280 /> high-dollar, high, you know, risk/reward enterprise. it s a lot of stuff that they ve got to move in a relatively short amount of time. reporter: he says the tunnels are used to move large packs of marijuana and cocaine and often lined with electrical power and ventilation. this one had a rail system in it. reporter: how long does it take to build something like this? depend ong the resiliency of the digging crew, they can go really fast really far. is it by hand, by shovel? basically almost exclusively by hand with power tools. reporter: when these things started popping up, what was your reaction to that? the imagination of people trying to illicitly come north is something i don t try to second-guess. i mean, it is they re incredible, some of the methods they use. reporter: fighting this ingenuity below ground has fundamentally changed life on the border above ground. alycia and chris martin spend their lives straddling both sides of the border. they own organic farms in mexico and a produce distribution business and one of the most unique restaurants in mexico. the restaurant is called the rock. yes, it is. yeah. la roca. reporter: because your uncle built this into the side of this mountain. that s me. reporter: as a child she remembers freely crossing the border into mexico. this is our farm. we d come down in our bathing suits as kids, get the popsicle, get the ice cream and go back. reporter: with immigration controls tightening on the u.s. side and the fear of cartel violence, the restaurant has struggled to keep its doors open. it was all of a sudden somebody came in and hit the light switch and there was nobody. there was nobody in town. there was nobody on the street. they re difficult problems to solve, throwing up trade barriers, putting up a wall. there s such harsh approaches to the problems. once again you re treating a symptom and you re not going after the root cause of the problem. reporter: perhaps no place symbolizes the impact of tightened border security quite like this place. this is one of the smallest legal border checkpoints you re going to find. this is the crossing in big ben national park. literally two little boats and a guy who rows you across. it s a small town of 200 people. its lifeline is the tourists that venture across the rio grand for the tama lays at jose falcon s restaurant. it s very nice to live here. reporter: lilia runs the restaurant her father opened in 1973, but after 9/11, the united states closed the border crossing and the town slowly started dying. falcons had to close. the entry point reopened almost four years ago and falcon s is back. but lilia falcon worries about donald trump s crackdown on immigration and border security. if that border crossing goes then the town again will be dead again. it would be hard, very hard again. we wouldn t like to go through it again. reporter: it s the chance of taking this rowboat to tore side that just might be the best $5 you ll ever spend. ed, you ve travelled the length of the entire southern border, almost 2,000 miles. you ve seen the wall that exists, seen where it stop, seen the mountains, seen the rivers, the tunnels. what has stood out the most? reporter: there s little moments like that in south texas where we saw a stack of ladders that had been abandoned next to one of the border walls, clearly left by migrants who had used these ladders to scale over that wall. full of moments like that. but overall what has really struck me this week reporting this series is the sense that you get from people that the changes they expect to see here at the dawn of the donald trump administration is very similar to the changes that were sparked in the years after 9/11. and there s that sense from these border communities that the changes will be that dramatic here in the years ahead. all right. ed lavandera, thank you for that incredible series that i think has opened the eyes for so many watching. out front now, i want to go to the former arizona sheriff. thank you, sheriff. i appreciate you taking the time. of course. ed lavandera has spent the past month on this special series traveling across the american/mexican border. tonight you saw the massive tunnels. i know you re familiar with those. yes. one where we see ed right now 70 feet underground. right. underneath the existing fence that exists. so do you still think a wall is the right answer? i mean, you can t put a wall 70 feet below the ground. if you do, they go down 80, right? they ve got ventilation, electricity. they ve got it wired for rail. right. well, i could tell you that largely what we re looking at, there s the illegal immigration issue, there s the drug smuggli smuggling issue, which are largely these tunnels are used almost exclusively for, and then there s the larger issue which i think wasn t eve an part of this conversation, is the national security threat posed by an unsecured border. look, if we had over a half a million just basic illegals, people who wanted to come here to the united states for a better life, for a job, for health care, whatever purpose, far more never were apprehended. so it stands to reason that if basic illegals can come in here in that volume, that people that have terrorist intentions with military training and deliberate plans could sneak through as well. i understand your point. this has been raised by middle eastern leaders and others. fair point. i m getting at would the wall stop them or anyone else that wants to come in? yes, it would. why? and the reason i say that, i served as an army officer commanding up to 1,100 soldiers in yuma. there not only when you had 14-foot-tall corrugated steel, no-climb fence, far more important than the fence is enforcing the law. when there s real consequences behind it, and that s what we haven t had, under both democrats and republicans. there s a lot of blame to go around. donald trump is going to enforce the laws currently on the books. that s one thing but isn t that different than the wall? we went through the tunnel issue, 70 feet underground. a wall doesn t help with that. he found the stacks of ladders. the wall in many places ed went, it s 10 to 20 feet high, easy to scale or use a ladder. eld was able to go under the wall, slither underneath it in a couple places. i see your point about consequences and all your points there s a proof of concept it does. in yuma that i point out 94% reduction in illegal entries. that s a secure border. that s what it looks like. and it s because you have physical barrier but you also need the enforcement. there s nine sectors of the border patrol along the southwest border an very few were actually enforcing what was called streamline. an actual consequence if you breached that barrier, that wall, you were deported and there were consequences behind it. most of the border there was disparate enforcement. full catch and release was happening and so when there s no consequence and no enforcement, of course, my deputies have arrested people 16, 22 times. they keep returning. and hay whooi wouldn t they? because there s no consequence or punishment. that s what s really been the issue here, far more than a wall, far more than any other issue that people think is going to solve it. it s going to be enforcement of u.s. laws. all right, sheriff. thank you very much. i appreciate your time. thank you, erin. anytime. next, my next guest is the founder of patron, the tequila. he ll tell you exactly how much more it will cost you to buy a bottle of patron if trump enforces his tax. and donald trump echoing steve bannon, calling the media the opposition. untains, and racetra. and now much of that same advanced technology is found in the audi a4. with one notable difference. the highly advanced audi a4, with available traffic jam assist. 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if it comes into effect, unfortunately with all due respect, the mexican government doesn t pay for it, the u.s. consumer does. if the tax comes across, we have to raise our prices. we can t make the tequila in the united states. our quality tequila has to be made in mexico by law, can t make it here, so it s passed on to our distributor, onto the retailer, which will pass on o e the consumer. when that happens, will people stop buying patron? probably not because people want to treat themselves to the quality, but will it affect the mexican government? i think it will affect the united states citizen more than the u.s. government, i really do or if the mexican government. in your individual case, a few dollars more with that tax? it will be a few dollars more a bottle with the tax but the consumer in the united states will be paying for it, not the mexican government. i think we have to take a different look at that. when you talk about that, this tax, that s what it means for patron. we buy auto parts, car, truck, a lot of oil. it s the fourth biggest supplier of oil to the united states. trump was asked about the point you re making, he said the tax, whether it would be passed along to consumers here in america. and i want to play for you his answer and get your reaction. sure. well, i think some of it may get passed along but it also creates jobs. so i m not against something like that but with respect to mexico something else could happen which would be much more positive for both mexico and the united states. he says i think some may get passed along but it also creates jobs. fair? well, you have to not quite. we have to really think this one out a little bit because oil, for example, and food is a commodity. if you raise the price by 20% because of whatever taxation there is, the consumer at the other end is going to pay for it. they re going to pay for it across the line. so i think they may want to think that one out a little bit. you ll be paying more for vegetables, more for gas that comes from mexico, and if such a large percentage that we use comes from mexico, it only makes sense that the only gas companies have to charge more money. so the u.s. consumer s going to pay for it. mr. trump is a smart fellow and i think mr. trump wants to do what s right, but i do think they have to think this out a little bit more. now, when it comes to renegotiating maybe a trade pact, that s different. i know when i ship into mexico for paul mitchell hair care products, we have a duty of 16%, so we have to charge a little more money to the mexican people. they pay it because the quality of the product. so going both ways it definitely affects one another. but i know that going down there, we get charged 16% going down. which i think is actually an important point because people may conflate the wall with nafta itself. and off lot of issues with that. but you re saying as part of ngata, when they sell here, they there s no tariff, right? that s why he s talking about putting one on. when you go down there, you re paying right now 16% tariff. that is correct. that is correct. that s correct. there s no question about it. but going back to mexico paying for the wall, the way it s stated right now, i m sure they ll review it and change it a little bit, the u.s. consumer pays for it, not mexico. i think they ll look at it maybe a little more seriously and figure out what may work and won t work. i think across the line a 20% tax i don t think will be advantageous to our people or jobs. it won t affect our jobs as far as i know one bit. unless he only charged people that were u.s. manufacturers that ship it right back to the united states, maybe that s different. i don t know. maybe it will equalize what money they re saving so they ll hire more people in this nation. i don t know. but when it comes to things like products made in mexico that can t be made anywhere else or commodities like food, it s the american citizens that pay for it. they may want to rethink that. john paul, thank you very much. for all of that information. appreciate it. pleasure. and next, we re going to go inside the white house to find out who is closest literally because we have a seat map, people, to the ultimate seat of power. who s d closest to trump? sara murray is out front. reporter: donald trump s west wing is packed with a team of advisers with often sharp elbows. in the midst of a tumultuous first week in the west wing, it appears trump is adopting the management style that suited him in business and helped him win the white house. and trying to apply it to washington s bureaucracy. put me into the boardroom as your representative and i will deliver for you like no politician has ever delivered, believe me. believe me. reporter: previous presidents have churned to their chief of staff to ensure order in the white house. trump has lavished praise on him. reince is fantastic. reince has been an unbelievable leader. reporter: but he s given reince priebus equal authority to steve bannon, trump s chief strategist and senior counselor. they re joined in the white house by counselor to the president, kellyanne conway, someone trump holds in high esteem. there is no den she will not go into. when my men are petrified to go on a certain network, i say kellyanne, will you absolutely, no problem. and she gets on and just destroys them. reporter: rounding out is jared kushner. i sort of stole her husband. he is so great. reporter: his influence grew throughout the campaign and trump trusts him completely. when it comes to the prime white house real estate, priebus claims the office traditionally reserved for the chief of staff, complete with a fireplace and conference table. kushner snapped up the spot closest to the oval office and bannon is sandwiched between them. conway is settling into a space on the second floor previously inhabited by obama senior adviser valerie jarrett. money, money, money trump has a penchant for competing power centers and a variety of viewpoints. in his view, that means the strongest proposal wins but it can breed turf wars and internal rivalries. david axelrod, who worked in the obama administration, served up even stronger warnings, noting a model chain of command and staff spats can lead to severe kwepss. there is a big difference between running the trump organization or even a campaign and running the white house because the decisions and statements and actions a white house takes can have grave implications, mortal implications, for people here and around the world. reporter: sara murray, cnn, washington. thanks to sarah. with the xfinity tv app,
the end seven years ago we were left with something that is unsustainable, we were left with something hurting americans back home, that s hurting health care coverage and it s a binary choice, a choice of continuing down a path of affordable care act that s not working or repealing it and repairing it and moving forward in the process. i ran on that in 2009 that i was going to repeal and replace obamacare i m going to vote yes so we can repeal an start the process of of repeal and replacing obamacare. do you have a sense of other februaries of the freedom caucus if they are moving forward? i don t. the wednesday group, the friday group, i got a lot of friends on both sides of the aisle, what i m hearing is everybody has their opinion. the real problem is there are two choices either move forward and repeal this bill that everybody wants us to repeal back home and what we all ran on or you re going to allow it just to continue. because you heard the president and i ve got to give the president a lot of credit. he has worked with everyone. i spent an hour and a half in the white house with him. he has listened changed things and actually helped the process and i think at the end people have to realize this is part of moving forward and he wants to get this done to move on to tax reform and i m hoping others will come on board an vote as well. if it does not come to a vote or does not pass, what then? what happens? i think like the president said and i m a businessman as well, you can t just keep going back and forth and back and forth. he wants to move on to other things. i would like to see tax reform being done, i hope we can move on to that, but at this point it s a binary choice, you re either voting for the repeal and replace process to begin or allowing obamacare to continue and move on to something else. the critics say what s the rush? why do you have to do this so quickly? why not go back fix it, make it better, you said yourself you hate the way the process was dealt with, the chances of passing in the senate are very minimal, a much smaller republican vote, why not go back and improve it so you love it and your colleagues love it. i hope it does go to the senate, that is the process, let the senators do what they think, send it back, let s keep it moving but the american people want to see things getting done, we have immigration reform, tax reform, all things on the plate. we can t just continue to say well let s go back to the drawing board. it s time to move this process forward. time to move on to the next agenda item. again, i might not like everything in the bill but i know it s the opportunity for us to repeal and replace and repair and move this forward and get on to the rest of the agenda. thanks very much for joining us. thank you. david chalian, political director. the big picture here? i keep thinking back to on election night when the results were clear and we saw that donald trump had taken the oval office and republicans had the house and the senate, the first thing that people discovered or started analyzing and talking about well obamacare is gone, that s clear they have the house, the senate, oval office. and have been talking about it for seven years. of course. and i can t believe we re sitting here watching this potentially fall apart. again, they still have to cast these votes so we don t know exactly where this will land but if this is going to go the way sean spicer s briefing seems to suggest that it is, paul ryan and donald trump are going to be the ones that saved obamacare and kept it in place is a bizarre outcome. and what s more bizarre is republicans will be blaming each other no doubt if it loses the president will blame the democrats an whatever else, but you not only have republicans blaming each other but you have house republicans saying the reason we can t do this is because we don t trust the senate republicans and it s just this incredible mess that i don t think donald trump had any idea what he was walking into when he became president. someone who was sitting in the white house tonight of the election, we fully thought obamacare would be dead long before now, so the fact that it is still alive is not something i think the obama team, most democrats expected in any way. the interesting dynamic which gloria touched on that s happening now there s no doubt the man plaqcconnell is workinge sweetener no way he s keeping the cuts and especiasentials, at of them are going to walk the plank. can you explain for our viewers what is happening now? are they still making calls trying to wrangle votes? what s happening now is they are going one by one and no longer talking about gee, what do you want in and what do you want out? that s been done, this will be the bill that will be voted on. it s set what they are saying to them are the political arguments and making process arguments. you have got to start this process, if you don t start it here it won t start anywhere, taxes have to start in the house of representatives constitutionally, so will you move to process forward? and that s the major argument they re make k, frankly not unlike 1986 when the house took up a tax reform bill had almost no reform as president reagan, bradley or dep hahart wanted it. some defeated that rule, and i remember ronald reagan came up to the hill and spoke to house republicans and said i pledge to you if this doesn t come out right in the senate, i will veto it but i have got to have this process move forward. the problem i had with jack was whether he would rule for the process to go forward and he said no, couldn t, hated everything in the bill and he turned around on the stair above me and said shut-up i don t want to hear you talk about it again, i m voting for it we have got to keep the process going. that s what is happening right now. we have all seen the house of cards. how tough, how bare knuckles, you re saying one-on-one, talking about somebody saying shut-up. well that was a member to a staff person, so it s easy. working for jack as a staff person he had the right to say anything he wanted to me. having said that member to member let me walk you through what i think is going to happen, this will happen next, this will happen next and that s what members are balancing right here a bill they don t like everything and, they like some things not everything, is it more of a risk to send to the senate or more of a risk to stop it in the house and see what happens after that and that s a balancing act but these conversations aren t vicious kfr conversations they are here is what i think what do you think? we have seen concessions for memb members of the freedom caucus, work requirements for those w who sooner into medicaid rather than later and that s brought some of the freedom caucus firmly believes this doesn t do enough to bring down premiums and expand choices for the american people, problem is when they made concessions for some to have more moderate republicans fell off the vote so today we had vice president pence working hard on the hill as you indicated one-on-one with some of these people. that s why it s so complex, it s like whack a mole. what i m hearing more than anything donald trump wants people to go to the floor, have a record, but those that are no aren t concerned about what donald trump thinks, more concerned about their constituents back home and that s more motivating. david gurgen what do you think? i understand the instinct on the part of the white house to stand up and be counted who was loyal and who didn t for later purposes. but the fact is he s in a position right now where he needs to unify the party and everybody on the line is paying a potential price back home and from the point of view of trying to unify a party this is not what you due, hug each other and saying let s be positive we re moving on. but donald trump is used to walking out of negotiation. if he didn t like a deal, we walked off the deal an moved on and this is what i think he is saying now, we have to get this other with and move on. in the end david, you know the speaker well, you used to work for him. it s his decision not the president s decision, it s paul ryan s decision. it is a decision that paul ryan and mccarthy and the leadership will ultimately make, but this is one you want to have as much team support for making this decision and at least i presume that the stories i saw about the speaker going down to the white house were correct. that was one place you could get everybody with an opinion in the white house same place same time as opposed to calling the president up on the phone and address the decision head on. the president has done everything he can do, with one exception, time. uh-huh. and you can take more time if you so desire and move. is something going to have to happen on health care in the next two years? yes, and everybody working with the president knew this, secretary clinton wanted to do raise taxes. every republican some form or another wanted the market to shift over to the market and that s what we re going to have to have it because aca does not have a long life expectancy here because the costs are going to drive people away. president trump is fooling himself if he thinks he can lose today and just move on like tax reform is going to be a slam dunk, the last time was a very difficult task that involved president reagan s leadership. we re not through with health care. republicans said they would do something about it they campaigned the past seven and a half years through four elections and then have one house vote and then say too bad? there are issues the affordable care act may not be in a death spiral as much as republicans argue, but the congress and white house probably need to address if they refuse to do that who takes the blame for a system that continues to get worse. let s listen to sean spicer explain from his perspective and the speak eaer s perspective wh repeal and replace obamacare comes first. wouldn t it have been wiser to work with the freedom caucus first to work on infrastructure? we talked about this since 2010 and every republican with the exception of probably a handful that they would do everything they could to repeal and replace obamacare and to get in and say hey, you should have done something else wouldn t be fair for the american people who said okay i ll vote for you but i want you to fulfill this pledge. do you feel, david chalian, that the president was really enthusiastic over these past few months since he took office in making sure this was the first issue on the legislative agenda? yeah, i think we ve seen what donald trump looks like when he puts everything on the field, i think we saw that during the campaign in stocome of the dark moments, i know sean said he was doing everything he possibly could. i think there will be a lookback and i don t know that the republican leadership ton the hill feels donald trump did everything he could, so that may be revised and again if indeed the vote goes down this relationship between ryan and trump will be forever changed because of this moment and how they move forward together i think is going to be a really determinative thing for the rest of the agenda. i think when you look at next steps, if this goes down, the question is whether you now need to do things incrementally as oppo opposed to these massive bills a where you do play whack a mole as anderson was saying, and go back to health care and say this needs to be fixed and that needs to be fixed i don t know whether republicans would play on that and dave, you may know more on that than i do, but the question is these massive things given the polarization and the congress will be done anymore this way. it seems almost an impossible task. the roll call of the house of representatives a little more than an hour away, another fight up on capitol hill, this one involving the investigation over the trump campaign s possible ties to russia. you re going to hear what the republican leader of the house intelligence committee did that is now infuriated several members of his committee. this is cnn s special live coverage. snoo another major story unfolding on capitol hill. one is close to donald trump now volunteering to be interviewed by the house intelligence community with ties to russia. stone saying it isn t his bag of tricks, manafort s ukraine, carter page who allegedly advised the trump campaign on foreign policy saying he s also willing to talk. want to bring in manu raju. we are hearing tuesday s hearing has been cancelled? reporter: that s right. that s prompting a lot of concern of people on the committee who believe they should have moved former. former national intelligence committee officials to talk about russian meddling and contacts and any alleged coordination that may have occurred during trump campaign and russian officials, devin nunes said he would not move forward on this because they would have a private classified meeting with james comey, and mike rogers to get briefed going forward but democrats are furious. they believe it s going to prevent the public from getting a clear understanding of what s happening in russia, and adam schiff is joining calls criticizing devin nunes and i asked him if he does not agree with others who believe devin nunes is not fit to sit as chairman. as i said we re we are not going to get in a era because they were mentioned a press story and i am highly concerned about that. to take evidence that may or may not be related to the investigation to the white house was wholly inappropriate and of course cast grave doubts into the ability to run a credible investigation and the integrity of that investigation. do you believe that he can still run this committee or should he step aside? ultimately that s the decision that the speaker needs to make. and i think the speaker has to decide just as well as our own chairman whether they want a credible investigation being done, whether they want an investigation that the public can have confidence in. reporter: now anderson, it is significant that these three former trump advisors have agreed to come forward. nunes said he did not want to bring them forward because he wanted them to voluntarily come forward. and carter says he wants to clear his name and does not believe he s been treated fair by the democrats on this committee, just before coming on air he told me his presence is that he would like to testify in public not in a private setting a because he does not believe that the committee democrats would treat him fairly and says he s tired of these innuendos, page willing to go public, the question is will they agree to have public testimony that may not look so favorably from the trump campaign trying to distance themselves from russia. would this classified briefing be on tuesday and any word on when the next public briefing would be? reporter: we don t know, devin nunes suggested he s still open to a public hearing, did not commit to a day, but a new focus going forward to demand a public hearing, because much of what this committee does is in secret. thank you very much. back now with the panel. i mean, i don t even know where to begin. let me ask you, anderson because you had that amazing interview with carter page. you got to talk to him and he was described as an important policy advisor for the trump campaign. which is why i said allegedly, because the timeline is very strange. then candidate trump was under pressure to kind of name significant people who were his national security team and finally after some delays he came out with five names one he said carter page phd, that seemed to indicate they had met. i talked to carter page who claimed repeatedly in russia and elsewhere that he attended meetings with candidate trump. upon further questioning what carter page meant by meeting he says he was using meeting in the russian term of the word which means he attended rallies that donald trump gave like in bismark, north dakota with 25,000 other meetings and i said does that mean anybody who has been to a rally with donald trump means they have been in a meeting with donald trump? apparently he likes to stick with the russian meaning. you spoke with another former advisor? who feels the same way that you do about the closeness of carter page to donald trump. and we should point out that the campaign itself within a short amount of time started to distance themselves from carter page. and paul manafort, but i spoke with roger stone today who wanted to point out don t forget paul manafort announced this morning he was willing to testify before the committee without a subpoena and very short order also heard from roger stone and carter page and speaking to carter page he made it clear he says he has nothing to hide an wants to clear his name and this letter from his attorney his lawyer says mr. sohn is eager to because of the way he has been portrayed. so now they are ready to testify, some publicly and we will see whether the committee wants to do this. but it is interesting how they are characterizing the relationship with now seems like paul manafort was a bystander. a summer intern. a staffer and certainly carter page as well. one thing i think is interesting, nunes and schiff used to do two different conferences and i think there s clearly some rift there and may need to call for special counsel to come look at this because there s clearly some internal strife there and i think to get to the bottom of this, we have to remember this is all about russian interference and the rest is collateral damage. virtually every democrat on that committee right now is saying just that but you don t really hear that from republicans. and it s interesting because the democrats were playing pretty nice from the beginning they wanted this to be bipartisan, more so on the nat side burr and warner still have a pretty good rapport and it was a matter of time before the dam was going to break on the house side. a lot of people are calling for an independent investigation, but now with these individuals of willing to testify publicly may have a different definition. what s also irritating to the ranking democrat adam schiff is that the is chairman now cancelled an open hearing i think scheduled monday with james clapper either monday or tuesday next week with former director of national intelligence, cia director john brennan, former acting attorney general sally yates and it was going to be an open meeting and now for some reason devin nunes is canceling that. they had a right to object, it s been planned for some days, i think what some draemocrats wanted was to hear from clapper and yates on patterns of how the russians interfered, to set up the narrative of how this unfolds an then to show what the various individuals who have been implicated in all this what they did and how it fit sboos t fits into the narrative, now look, isn t it interesting this american did this, a and this american did this, that s what they were hoping for. and have a right to be angry, but for the three guys who have come forward, they ought to have the chance to come forward. the snares involving presidents speaking out for themselves they may have things to deny, may say they have done nothing wrong, their interests may not be necessarily in line. but they will be under oath, they will be under oath. i don t mean they would be telling a lie, but telling the truth could create problems. who knew what when, which is what people are not focused on, it s the collusion, roger stone certainly alluded to this if there was information previously known about plans to leak the e-mails about the hacking that s a problem whether it s criminal, that s not for me to define. i think part of what s happened is politics has broke up this week in the intelligence house committee. shocking nunes made a mistake and schiff came out and said some things he shouldn t have said. if you want to lower the temperature and work together in a bipartisan fashion, put some time in, calm down, we got a lot of time to go here. all i m saying is take some of that time. it doesn t hurt to take some of that time to sit back down, look at some things and then bring all these people. usually this house intelligence committee, senate intelligence committee there usually is cooperation between the republican and democratic leaders. and they have gotten to a political spin. i m not sure they had the resources to do it to be honest, this investigation has grown and grown and grown, and you ve got members of the senate and house going into vaults at langley looking through thousands of pages of loose leaf notebooks, and seems this undertaking is growing and growing, i m not sure they are ready. the speaker saying he does not have the votes. the vote could happen less than an hour from now. we have a lot to talk about. you re watching cnn s special coverage. in less than one hour the house of representatives will be casting vote os on a critical tt of the trump presidency, will the republicans have the votes the repeal and replace obamacare. congressman, thanks much for joining us. thanks for having me. you re planning to vote in favor of this legislation to repeal and replace obamacare. but what do you think? you ve got your finger over there. is it s going to pass? well, look, it s touch and go, these things tend to be decided at the last minute and we re certainly in that situation, but we will wait for the votes an see what happens. what would be smarter from your perspective if it looks like it s going to fail for the speaker, majority leader to just pull it say we re going to think about it work on it we ll get back to you or let this vote go forward and have an embarrassing defeat. i m not sure about the quote of embarrassing defeat. look, i m a big believer in when you finally schedule something, karr carry it through, the members have lhad a lot of opportunity o participate, i m very proud of what the speaker and president have made. i think they have been representative to all sides but there comes a point on these things when you have to go in and press a button red or green and so my advice would be to go ahead and vote. congressman, it s anderson cooper i was wondering if you could describe the impact that the president has had on the bill? i met with him fairly early about the deputy whip team. he was very knowledgeable about the bill, very engageing, strategic in his thinking, high energy, and said be open to changing the bill, if people bring you a good idea no matter where they re from, take it and work with them, and he s been true to his word and he s excellent in this deal making and consensus making and if it doesn t work out it s not his fault. i think congress has to look at itself. what is the next step if it doesn t work out in terms of repeal and replacing obamacare. well, then you have to move in chunks, we have a chance to get every american covered to get the tax credit designed for their care. ours is going 69% and we re down to a single provider so we don t really have a lot of options but obviously if this solution doesn t work, sit down and try and craft another one. thanks very much for joining us. wolf, may pleasure as always. we will be speaking with a spokesperson from the coke brothers, who are offering to support republicans who vote against this health care bill, our cnn special live coverage continues in just a moment. welcome back, quite a day in a short time the house set to vote on the bill. cnn s phil mattingly is with us what do you hear. reporter: it just doesn t look good, the most interesting element is everything they have tried over the last couple of days has ended up not working or in some cases backfiring, one interesting thing in talking to aides the last couple hours trying to recognize when did the bottom fall out, when did things fall apart? and that s a question we re going to be looking back to if this does indeed fail or gets pulled from the house floor, but i m hearing it s not the conservatives, or the freedom caucus but it s the moderates. and months ago i was told repeatedly keep an eye on them, new jersey, pennsylvania, new york, if they start the flee this thing will go down. that s pretty much exactly how this went down. i ve been told privately a lot of the the tuesday group members are not in line and not coming over in part because of the compromised language they tried to hand out to the conservatives, that leadersh end up going along with, so result of them trying to schiff to thi the conservative side, they didn t bring in tfreedom caucus side, you know it s short and any of the undecided, undeclared what it would do things going forward? we don t know, i can tell you what s what s going around capitol hill g.o.p. sources, that s their biggest concern about what the president wants to do right now, put this on the floor so it s an open question whether or not that s going to happen but as recently as a couple minutes ago, as of right now still scheduled for a vote. we will be watching closely, as soon as you hear anything thank you very much. james davis from freedom partners, a group linked to the coke brothers, you oppose this legislation and you re telling republicans in the freedom caucus and elsewhere if you get punished by voting against it you will come up, freedom partners will come up and help them with money, right? we have seen republicans run on the idea they re going to repeal this an this current legislation does not do that and so we want to stand by those who take position and let them know they re not alone. this doesn t repeal? it doesn t repeal. this keeps all the mandates and regulations in place that have driven up the costs of obamacare premiums over the last several years and also uses the tax credit as a subsidy just virtually indistinguishable from the obamacare subsidies so there s a lot we need to do to fix health care and this bill doesn t do it. if you repeal it then focus on individual solutions bills you can put forward to take care of the vulnerable population that everyone agrees those with preexisting conditions and then push those pieces of legislation through congress, through the legislative process, i think that s a better path. it s not going to be if this goes down it s not going to be another huge bill it s going to be step by step by step? absolutely. that s one of the major criticisms we had with obamacare, from the start, so why do this? we ll get better policy when we focus on individual problems and also more politically palatable. the president, according to sean spicer, we just heard him at the white house briefing says the president has committed everything he can, he understands this is it, this is do or die, if you don t do it now forget about it he says it s over with, you ve got to pass this legislation now, why is the president wrong? because it s more important to get it right than fast, this is an opportunity to get it roog right, so if it doesn t pass they need to go back to the drawing board, and figure out how to put the pieces of legislation together. you are very well plugged in with conservative republicans. what s going to happen? i don t think it s going to pass. it looks like with moderates also jumping ship on this bill that i don t predict that it passes. stay with us, david chalian, yesterday a lot of people were pretty upbeat those who liked the legislation believed the president would get it done but today met with pes michl. mike pence described what was an intense meeting with the freedom caucus left the meeting tight lap lipped nipped. all david. david gergen. and the idea that jim is talking about is makes good sense but you have to understand one thing about it, all that will be done under regular order which means you will need 60 sen votes in the senate. people supporting that strategy has to understand that s what it mean, this will not be done in regulation, you have to do it in constrictive regulations, and you have to physical the byrd rule. is there a concern that the president will feel burned? the president has talked about moving on already talked about wishes maybe he had done infrastructure or tax reform, is it possible he will want to move on? i think he s told us a while, he said if we lose this we ought to just live with obamacare, of course that isn t good for the country, if this goes down you re going to live with obamacare and let it go into a death spiral, that s what they expect. i actually think that would give the democrats an opening and they could come forward, we re delighted we saved obamacare we know there s problems and we would like you the republicans to work with the fixes and make sure it doesn t go in the death spiral so when the republicans refuse to do that as they will, the democrats can say when it does go into a death spiral they can say we tried to work with you, who is going to be left with the tail on the donkey? the public. well, i agree with that. the voters wanted changes wanted something done and now not getting anything. they don t like this bill. well, i was just going to talk about that because the recent polling shows this bill has a 17% approval rating, so if you re a member of congress do you want to kind of walk over that cliff voting for a bill that has a 17% approval rating and i know we go district by district by district and some won by an overwhelming margin they can clearly make their case but if you are a moderate republican and these essential health benefits ten essential health benefits have been eliminated from the bill like maternity benefits, substance abuse, mental health coverage, you re never going to vote for this, no matter what donald trump hold on, we re getting closer and closer to the actual vote. we are now hearing from key conservatives who president has been courting, brand new sound coming in from the freedom caucus, that and a lot more right after this.
on the way with more rain in the extreme weather center. and the rain continues this saturday here in washington. hope it s a little drier where you are at home. i m leland vittert. elizabeth: great to be with you, i m elizabeth prann. voters in france will have a runoff that will have a global impact. one campaign trying to deal with fallout after claims it was the victim of a massive and coordinated hacking attack designed to destabilize the election. the french are about in a 48 hour blackout period before the vote takes place. greg palkot is in paris, france with the latest. hi, greg. hi, elizabeth. taking a page out of the u.s. election playbook, the leader here in this presidential elections here in france has been hit by a massive cyber attack. thousands of e-mails and documents seized have the computers of campaign safer of emmanuel macron, they were posted online. while moist of the material is kind of mundane, it is combined according to authorities today, with fake news items meant to try to sway the election. no one is assuming responsibility for this, but pro russian and right wing websites have been allegedly in the mix and they re looking at those possibilities. so far no sign that all of this is impacting the leader macron. he is a centrist, an independent, reformer, pro european union and he has at least a 20% lead over far right p populous candidate marine le pen. there s a ban here on all activities and the authorities are trying to keep a lid on the development. le pen campaign manager did tweet a provocative question, suggesting that perhaps these leaks might reveal information that journalists have not revealed about their candidate. it is her favorable comment about russia and about vladimir putin that have some thinking that russian hacking connection reminiscent of the alleged russian role in those campaign documents and e-mail leaks from hillary clinton last year. now, woo he spent some time speaking with folks here on the street in paris. they don t seem too concerned about the development. paris is generally liberal. and we ve heard from macron, but in the french heartland there s a lot of support for marine le pen. she s anti-immigrant, anti-european union and is playing well in a lot of quarters. unemployment is high and the economy is sagging. we did, hear, elizabeth, from what they call the neither/nor candidates, people that are not happy with either sigh side. what we re looking at is a historic election, for the first time in modern history there are no major party candidates involved. the candidates of the two main parties here in france were eliminated in the first round of voting and this is the runoff and it s deciding the future of france and as you noted could have a big impact and not just here, but across europe and globally. elizabeth: that s right, historic indeed. greg palkot live. more later in the show. tomorrow we ll be live from 3:00 to 4:00 p.m. with special coverage of the french election, so tune in here as polls close for the results and what it means for here in the u.s. and, of course, president trump. leland: huge impacts on the markets. coming up, president donald trump worked out of washington this weekend from his new jersey golf club. what he calls a big win in his promised repeal and replace obamacare and tweeted last night touting job numbers to put the unemployment rate at levels not seen since 2007. brian is in bedminister with the president behind him at the golf club, good to see you, brian. good to see you, too, leland. for the president it s the first time he visited the club here. some are calling it the summer white house or camp david north, but this really marks the end of what has been a good week for the president and his administration from that i remember perspective. a great jobs report in april, the lowest unemployment in a decade and the repeal and replace of obamacare. the american health care act is the president s first major legislative victory, now the legislation is far from becoming law, it will go to the senate and likely back to the house, but in his weekly address. the president was optimistic touting his latest tax reform and touting that the house health care bill will boost the economy. thursday the house voted to repeal one of the worst job killing laws of all, the house bill is a plan that will save americans from this disaster and replace it with more choices and more freedom for american families. and now, i m calling on the senate to take action. now, getting the senate to take action and pass that bill or a version of it is going to be extremely difficult. it s going to be hard because many republicans in the senate are actually against the current bill as-is. for one, pre-existing conditions. the current bill allows states the option of allowing insurance companies to charge more for pre-existing conditions and others like ohio senators rob portman points to the medicaid cuts, saying millions of lower income americans stand to lose their insurance, thanks to this bill because it would cut obamacare s medicaid expansion. now, in a tweet though, the president is saying making it very clear that he believes that the media and critics are being too harsh because frankly, obamacare as-is is a bad system. in a tweet, he said, quote, why is it that the fake news rarely reports o-care is on its last legs and insurance companies are fleeing for their lives? it s dead. earlier today, former trump advisor corey lewandowski was on fox and friends and spoke how the president plants plans on continuing his hands-on approach and continuing things like tax reform, infrastructure, and this health care bill. he s going to get all three done and what that means is he s going to be working the phones, meeting with individuals, i m sure, in the u.s. senate to get a piece of legislation done. now, as for when the president expects this bill to be done, there is no timetable, the white house says, but they do expect some changes to the bill, although they say the main pillars they expect to stay there, leland. leland: the debate will continue as will the president s work. bryan live in new jersey, thanks, bryan. elizabeth: now those who voted must make the sell to their constituen constituents. and francis rooney, who voted for the american health care act. thank you for joining us today. thank you for having me on. elizabeth: two of your peers from the other side of florida on the east coast, made it fairly public that it was a game time decision. was this a game time decision for you? no, it wasn t. i saw this thing early on as the best possible opportunity to replace a top-down government mandate system for something that allowed choice and tried to make the free markets work. elizabeth: now, we want to talk about the sunshine state in particular. there s hundreds of thousands of folks who have preexisting conditions, there s an elderly population to a lot of the voters in florida. how are you going to sell this going forward? there are a lot of people worried that they may lose coverage, not only with pre-existing conditions, but also with medicaid. well, i ve been selling it. the fact of matter is ahca does not deny coverage for pre-existing conditions. the recent amendment does allow an opt out waiver for states, but if they do they have t.o. their own high risk fun to covered subsidized people who have expensive medical conditions or stay in the federal one, the $130 billion dollar one. i don t understand why the media keeps saying this kind of stuff. elizabeth: well, there was a voter, and i believe she was in fort meyers depending where she lives may or may not be in your district and she had said, quote, i m scared to death about what s happening. they re going to price me out of the market and may get to the point where i have to decide about keeping my house or having my health insurance. it s not necessarily that they re not going to be covered, but people with preexisting conditions who aren t going to afford coverage. if you get the high risk pools, earmarked, i believe $130 billion earmarked for folks in these high risk pools. critics say that s just simply not enough. well, i don t know where ne get that. i think it s a lot of money to cover these high risk pools and i think the fact that the high risk people will be taken out of the general underwriting base should allow premiums to go down. elizabeth: you re giving voters assurances if they re in the high risk pools they will be able to obtain coverage and i sort of want to get to my next question, which is medicaid. if the people on medicaid, sometimes they get off or on medicaid. if they disenroll or unenroll from medicaid and want coverage back on they re going to have to pay a penalty under the new law. are they going to be able to afford that? you know, florida is a state that has a very efficient well-run state government and eif isht well-run medicaid program, did not take the obama expansion money and is going to benefit from this stability fund that s going to help the states equallize during the four or five-year phasedown of expansion in other states. those other state governors are going to have to figure out how to operate as efficiently has a state like florida as medicaid easy money is retired the next few years. elizabeth: okay. my last question, a little bit looking forward, and i want to get to it before i let you go. one fellow lawmaker in florida could be at risk in 2018, carlos ka b cabelo. could you worry you re going to lose the republican majority. but we haven t seen that cbo score yet and we don t know how it s going to pan out. are you at all concerned? we haven t seen the cbo score and like to make a point, the original score was wholly defective. based on a static model that whole 24 million loss coverage is a myth and hopefully they re going to get a realistic score this time. no, i ve been selling this thing and explaining to people, giving out handouts of the key bullet points and i think it s the best option we ll see. elizabeth: thank you for joining us and we appreciate your time and see how the future pans out. leland has the other side. leland: indeed, every democrat in the house voted against ahca as did 20 republicans. among them congressman andy biggs of arizona and joins us from the great city of tucson with the camel back in the background. good to see you, sir. thank you for having me. leland: the question for you, it s pretty simple. where does the gentleman from florida and for that matter, the president that says this is going to save us from obamacare, have it wrong? simply put, let s just decide, did we repeal obamacare? and the answer of course is no. because if you did, what are the states going to be asking to be let out of? they re going to have to petition of federal government and say, please let us out, let us out of what? out of obamacare because we didn t repeal obamacare and that s the bottom line. what was actually done the president, the republican leadership and all the way down to the congressman from florida will tell you, hey, look, this was the best we could do, is that true? oh, that s a big difference between saying look, we have problems. cause if that s the best we could do, and they the people are acknowledging, hey, the senate is it going to change this things, we don t know how bad it s going to change it. why didn t we repeal it with the same kind of bills that we did in the congress for years before i ever even got there? if we would have why don t you think that republicans did that? why not just repeal and then come back later and replace? is it the political cost or something else going on? well, i can t attribute any motives, but all i know is i m bewildered by that. i mean, i signed on to a bill co-sponsor a bill to actually repeal this and i was told to be disingenuous to pass a full repeal out of the house even though we ve done it for five times before and then send it to the senate if the senate know might not pass it. isn t that what we just did? they just passed a bill and claiming it s repeal and sending it to the senate and knowing it will be change. how is that less ingenuous, than saying let s do our job and keep our promise and send it to the senate. it doesn t make sentence to me. leland: well, i appreciate your candor when it comes that. let me turn this just a little bit in terms of what was going on up on capitol hill. how much pressure were you under from the white house, from paul ryan, from others to vote yes? well, i got squeezed pretty hard, as you might guess. i think i lost five or ten pounds as i was getting squeezed. [laughter]. but the reality is i did talk to the white house, the president and vice-president and i tell you, they were very gracious. leland: no threats of being primary or don t vote for this there will ee ewillen there will be consequences. i heard more from colleagues. but i had colleagues telling me they respected my vote and a lot asked me why and i ve got an hour and a half worth of reasons why not to vote for this, but as i would go through they would, generally, they would say, hey, i know you ve thought about it, you ve done your homework, this is a principle vote and we respect you for that. i got it from both sides. leland: it s clear in our conversation this is not without a lot of contemplation on your part. i want your thought on something the president said this week and follow it up with a tweet. first the sound bite. i shouldn t say this, too, our great gentleman and my friend in australia, because you have better health care than we did. we re going to have great elk had soon. leland: the president followed it up with this tweet, doubling down. of course the australians have better health care than we do, everybody does. obamacare is dead, but our health care will soon be grit. arizona s got some of the best medical care in the world, and i would suspect you d agree with me when you think there s a lot of australians who if they have the money and are really sick come to america for health care. there s not a lot of americans who head down to australia for health care. where do you think the president has gone wrong on this? well, i don t think he was really providing a commentary necessarily on american health care so much he was making a commentary on obamacare. that s the way i took it. and saying obamacare is in a death spiral, which it is. and that s the reason would be bewildered. we ve basically enshrined the features of obamacare. we ve taken a step. and it s difficult to walk back from and we haven t really we didn t keep our promises and the we have no idea if we re really going to be reducing the premiums by any appreciatable amount. leland: i want to button this up. i respect your candor, i really do, to come on television and say we didn t keep our promises. don t you worry that this clip is going to be in a campaign ad come 2018? well, no, i m not. i didn t run this time to beat to run for reelection in 2018. i came this time to represent my constituents and my constituents largely understand what we re saying. when we start peeling this this back, they say, andy, you re right. we were going to repeal it. we re repositioning it, that s what happened. leland: mr. biggs came to washington and we appreciate your candor back there in arizona. come visit us soon. thanks. leland: all the buzz. come to fox news for a media buzz. howard kirtz talks about former trump cane manager corey lewandowski and health care will be a big topic in this conversation. and white house reince priebus bus talking about what s next for president trump as the health care bill heads to the senate. no doubt it s a tough ride to the senate. the chief of staff on what the president can do to get it through. check your local listings for time and channel, fox news sunday tomorrow. elizabeth: this is a fox news alert. the pentagon as identified the navy seal killed friday tighting the terror group al-shabaab in somalia. kyle milligan. he was killed during an operation against al-shabaab 40 miles west of mogadishu. a rear admiral says that he embodied the quote, warrior spirit and toughness induced in our best navy seals. he s irreplaceable as a father, a husband, a son, a friend and a teammate. very sad news to report today. millions of music fans are sending prayers and well wishes to country music legend loretta lynn after learning she suffered a stroke on thursday. the latest on her condition coming up. plus, as the senate gets ready for more hearings on russian election meddling. russian election meddling next week, knew details on trump campaign warnings to general michael flynn about his russian contacts. and downstream communities preparing for the very worst as the mighty mississippi river sets to crest this weekend in some major midwestern cities along its banks. adam is monitoring it all from the fox extreme weather center. yes, i am. at least we re clearing off and but that water is rising. i ll have the details coming up in my full forecast after the break. of the billboard music awards just by using your voice. the billboard music awards. sunday, may 21st eight seven central only on abc. music legend loretta lynn is recouperating from a stroke. the singer and songwriter is responsive and expect today make a full recovery. lynn s scheduled concerts have been postponed and her singer, crystal gayle put out a statement saying, she s strong woman and we appreciate your love, and support and we play for a speedy recovery. elizabeth: this is a fox news weather alert. the mississippi and missouri rivers are set to crest today after heavy rains pounded the region causing deadly floods that claimed at least ten lives. the storms caused massive devastation and headaches across the midwest and interstates and homes. the same storm systems hit new york city causing some major chaos for computers. so, there was water everywhere and in the homes and roofs are leaking. it was above the bottom edge of the door. cause now, my whole car has got about five inches of standing water in it, so, it must have been it was even higher, too, before. elizabeth: wow, for the latest, we bring in adam at the extreme weather center. what do you have for us? this was a big storm. the good news for folks in the midwest, that has moved off and we re seeing the rivers continuing to rise. it takes a couple of days for that rain to ultimately work its way down. wabash down to the mississippi and st. louis. all of those in green are flood watches, because, yeah, that water pours into the rivers. as i said it s drying off so looking at the exact raegs, we re not talking about additional rainfall, it did shift off to the northeast to the mid atlantic. the heavy rain that new york city saw yesterday, that wrapped up and it s replaced with a steady rain lingering over the course of the weekend. the mid atlantic stretching into new england, expect some showers over the course of today, running you eventually all the way through your weekend. the hour by hour forecast will time this out. even though we may not get consistent rain across the northeast and mid atlantic, there are going to be rounds of showers moving through the entire weekend. there is your time stamp through the corner. and taking you through sunday and monday morning and we continue to see at least a couple of showers lingering all the way up into the northeast. how much rain are we talking about? now, yes, there were folks yesterday that saw very big numbers. i m expecting a whole lot more, but pretty widespread from 1/10 of an inch up to one to two inches additional rainfall to what we saw yesterday. down into kentucky i wanted to take note of it. any racing fans out there. a slight chance of seeing a couple of showers, the temperatures on the cool side looking at 59 degrees, but again, folks along the east coast, it s going to be a good idea to keep that umbrella handy. today into sunday and probably even early monday morning before we start to clear off a little bit, guys. elizabeth: all right, adam klotz, thanks, we appreciate it. we ll talk with missouri governor greitens, what he s doing to prepare his residents for what is absolutely going to be a massive cleanup. leland: coming up, president trump s russia problems reignite as the senate committee asks his aides to turn over records. what we could learn this week. and post time six hours away as horses get a once in a lifetime opportunity to run the 143rd kentucky derby. our own janice dean is at churchill downs. it s muddy there. a little more on the hats and the mint juleps, coming up. eliquis reduced the risk of stroke better than warfarin, plus had less major bleeding than warfarin. eliquis had both. don t stop taking eliquis unless your doctor tells you to, as stopping increases your risk of having a stroke. eliquis can cause serious and in rare cases fatal bleeding. don t take eliquis if you have an artificial heart valve or abnormal bleeding. while taking eliquis, you may bruise more easily. and it may take longer than usual for any bleeding to stop. seek immediate medical care for sudden signs of bleeding, like unusual bruising. eliquis may increase your bleeding risk if you take certain medicines. tell your doctor about all planned medical or dental procedures. i m still going for my best. and for eliquis. ask your doctor about eliquis. the senate intelligence committee wants a number of high profile trump campaign aides to hand over e-mails and other records of their dealings with russian officials. garrett is joining us now with what we can expect to many could out of this coming week. the head of the senate intelligence committee are now saying that one of those trump aides, carter page has become less cooperative. the committee asked that he provide e-mails, or any, phone calls, between him and russians. and while his legal team is working on gathering that information, it s likely the government already has it all saying in part, any records i may have saved as a private citizen with a limited technology capability will be minuscule in comparison to the full data base of information which has already been collected under the direction of the obama administration. page also said he looks forward to testifying in an open hearing before the committee to put an end to the false allegations of collusion between him and russian officials. separately, there are also new reports that back in november, members of the trump transition team warned former national security advisor michael flynn that any conversations he had with russia s ambassador would likely be picked up by u.s. intelligence agencies. the washington post and associated press citing current and former government officials report those warnings came a whole month before flynn was reportedly discussions sanctions against russia with the ambassador. those discussions which he then misled the vice-president and other white house officials about eventually led to his stepping down. these new warnings we re learning about are in addition to those reportedly shared by former deputy attorney general sally yates and we ll likely hear what the warnings were and what the trump administration knew about flynn s connection with russia before she testifies before the judiciary committee. leland: a lot could come out of that. mr. tenney, thank you. and james carafano with the heritage foundation talks about the new normal in hacking as france becomes the latest target. liz. elizabeth: push back against pa ban flying over designated safe zones. it was hammered out by russia, turkey and iran. to explain the impact against isis and the region, the military analyst jack keane. thank you for joining us. good to see you, liz. elizabeth: the more that we learn about this that went down, representatives from the united states were not involved and learned that the opposition forces were out of that, especially once they learned that really the people calling the shots were russia and iran. so, how did this go forward? well, it will go forward similar to other cease fires. you re right, the united states is not involved, the opposition forces are not involved. we made the right decision in pushing back and not participating in this. the guarantee of the safety of the people in the deescalation zones is iranian. that s totally unacceptable to us. the iranians are the main ground source in syria, not the syria army. so they re the main killing force and in the cease fires and now calling it a deescalation zone, russians reconsolidate and after activity calming down they take advantage of the situations on the ground and start the bombing again and that will be what will play out here. elizabeth: i m curious about the he is escalation involvement and starting seven years ago and how much have they gained from their involvement in this conflict? it s pretty significant. in the actual conflict itself they have replaced the assad regime air power. they are the main air power used every single day. they have been pounding civilian communities since our cruise missile strike in syria every single day and used depenetrative bombs on underground hospitals. they re committing war crimes, the russian air power. what it s done, the countries in the region saw that russia came in and backed up an ally and we failed to back up our allies in the roux eggs particularly after the chemical line was crossed so-called red line. they ve done arms deal as a result of that with every sunni arab ally and a want to build nuclear power plants. that s taken place because of the military intervention. the reason the sunnis are doing this is they want to hedge against the russians and iranians. and that s why president trump let them know we got their pack back and return to the relationship with the leaders of the middle east. elizabeth: sort of set up my next question, we re looking at president trump making a trip over there. what doe accomplish? it seems that russia is getting everything they want especially when it comes to this conflict in syria. they re enthused with this president and he s met with them and spoken to some of the leaders and they re looking forward to the renewal of the relationship. and they ll take a look at isis and see if they can provide help. isis is larger than the caliphate in iraq and it s expanded to 30 countries. some he they have relationships with and some are their countries. eye had iran is a major threat in the middle east. and after the deal that president obama made and they know that the money will be used for that and they ll talk about that. the other interesting thing, he s going to saudi arabia where the holy shrines are that represent islam and that s going to send a message, in this country and in other parts of the world, people have got the perception that he s anti-muslim because of this travel ban. and i don t believe he is. and so many of the administration is not either. and i think that s going to make another statement to the muslim world that the first trip he s making to the middle east is to saudi arabia and also obviously, to israel. elizabeth: fascinating. i only had six more questions, but i m getting the cue in my air. too long. elizabeth: no, i love it. general, that means we have to have you back. good talking to you, liz. elizabeth: we appreciate it very much. leland. leland: when the general does come back, commenting often on tensions between the u.s. and north korea. an election in south korea could shake things up more. we ll tell you why coming up. plus, we ll take a closer look at the french presidential elections and why the far right candidate says don t believe the polls that show her so far behind. stop trying to project me as if i ve been defeated. maybe there s going to be a surprise that will belie opinion polls and this giant steamroller. in any event, we ve changed everything already. take on the mainstream. introducing nissan s new midnight edition. 12 hours from now and while there s a blackout period, pro russian and website are hawking stolen e-mails from the candidates. it s a twist that have an impact on financial markets and our relationship with our oldest ally. james joins us with insights. good to see you, my friend. thank you for having me. leland: you look at this right now, you ve got marine le pen who is way down in the polls, the right wing candidate. you ve got emanumanuel macron, untested politician, young guy under 40, leading by 20 points. ordinarily it wouldn t be a discussion, but you look at brexit, the pollsters got it wrong. the u.s. election, the polls got it wrong. and marine le pen saying it could be in threes. it s not a similar situation. brexit was close in the polls leading up to it. trump was never more than three or four points behind. and marine le pen is 20 points behind, it s highly, highly unlike unlikely. leland: strange things happen. what does it tell us, if nothing else, that we re having this conversation? you re right. if you look the a the trend lines across france and the p poplus parties are more popular. per father only got 18%. his daughter, 15 years later, is probably going to get somewhere on the order of 35 to 40%. so, while she s not going to win tomorrow, if the conditions that give rise to this continue, then, five years from now, ten years from now, she might have a much better shot. leland: i m not going to characterize marine le pen s position on things, i ll leave that to you, suffice to say to a huge part of the population, they are alarming. she s often described as far right which is not accurate. if you look at her economic policies, she is what we in america would consider far left. she wants to keep a 35-hour work week, put up trade barriers, she wants to lower the retirement age drastically. she s in favor of much more state intervention in the economy, and much bigger government spending. so she has a, what we would consider a far left economic plan, which is actually the reason why a lot of people who used to vote for the communist party in france vote now for the national front. it s more on the questions of, you know, ethnic identity and citizenship that we consider her far right and the fact that there are so many neo fascists, frankly and holocaust revisionists and her father among them? yes, and she did kick out her father from the party a couple of years ago. but i think that was largely a cosmetic change. if you look at the attitudes expressed by members of this party, including senior members. the prime minister candidate was forced to retain a couple of weeks ago because he doubted the holocaust and says that the germans never used poison gas in the gas chambers and these are the people she s is your round surrounded herself with. leland: and we ll see, and if it happens see the markets in a tizzy monday morning. thank you. elizabeth: mint juleps, hats and horses, janice dean is in churchill downs where they re gathered for the race. how is it going, janice, you look beautiful, by the way. liz and leland, i have to tell you the most exciting news so far, the sun has come out. it s been raining here 48 hours. that s the great news. we ll talk about derby and the celebrities i was partying with last night when america s news headquarters from d.c. continues after the break. take a look at churchill downs. boost. it s about moving forward, not back. it s looking up, not down. it s being in motion. in body, in spirit, in the now. boost® high protein it s intelligent nutrition with 15 grams of protein and 26 vitamins and minerals. for when you need a little extra. boost® the number one high protein complete nutritional drink. be up for it i6789. elizabeth: well, today is the 143rd kentucky derby and it looks like the sun is finally coming out for the big race. our own janice dean took a trip to churchill downs to see how things are shaping up. we were talking how our show is so much better because we were able to steal you for the weekend. tell us about the oh down action down there. oh, moo my gosh, this is my first kentucky derby and we were talking about one of the coldest days in kentucky derby. oaks, the racing of the lilies and the fillies on the track, the coldest day in 55 years in louisville and today the sun has come out and people are starting to feel much better than they have over the last 24 hours, i want to thank the person, a company who produced the beautiful hats for me, frank olive by gabriel we ve had beautiful hats. kentucky ser bye is about horses, the mint juleps and the hats. i went to the brown stable gala. i met some celebrities and it was pretty exciting. watch. . and hey, sammy haggar here, i love you guys. this is your first derby. yes. are you excited? yeah, look at me. most exciting two minutes of sports? what do you say to that? i would not question it. i know i m going to be on the edge of my seat as we all are. should be fun! what s up. how many derbies? this is the fourth. the weather, how are you dealing with the weather? hey, i look at it as an opportunity. let s see what horse is going to run. we d love to know what your pick is. i was going to ask you the same thing, because i have no idea. there s a horse from brooklyn and my husband is from brooklyn. and always recommended. brooklyn horse. i m going with that. i ve got my eye, pun intended on the one-eyed horse patch. i love his underdog story. how are you, fox and friends? the first derby? yeah. and i m in love with it, the pageantry, dressing up. do you love coming out here? my first time. you re from this area? yeah, i m from kentucky. how do you pronounce louisville. like louisville, like louisville. like luolville. how do you pronounce louisville. i said louisville. is sing happy birthday? give you a kiss on the cheek. i ll never wash this cheek again. never do. more derby fun later. that was amazing! we watch that over and over again. thank you so much. leland: much more, maybe not another kiss for janice in the next hour of america s news headquarters. where and why the international swimmers took a cold plunge and scary moments for one truck driver when the ground literally fell out from under him. and we ll tell you how he escaped coming up. rescue me . had to talk to my doctor. she said, how long you been holding this in? 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oh, absolutely. the russians were doing this before the american elections, they ll still continue to do it after the american elections. one thing we ve seen that s been incredibly consistent with putin is he has gone back into the old soviet tool kit, and he s taken out those tools, and that includes disinformation and active measures. this is kind of classic soviet-style behavior. leland: the russian name for it, in terms of creating this stuff, it does seem that the french action, if you will, in terms of this latest e-mail dump about macron is kind of ham-handed. this doesn t seem to be nearly as involved as what we saw in the united states. well, you have to remember why the russians do this, why you conduct disinformation and active measure campaigns. it s less about necessarily driving a specific outcome than it is in kind of undermining the legitimacy and creating a bit of chaos. because as long as you re weakening and stressing your opponent and distracting them and you re creating space to operate, that s more important than the specific outlook you get outcome you get. if you go to rush that and say russia and say what are you going to achieve, the answer is, we don t know. if it creates chaos, good. if it doesn t, we do something else. leland: what are you hearing inside russia, to that point? do they view whatever they did in the u.s. elections as a success? well, i do think they saw it as a success from the perspective of look what s going on in the united states. we have a hyper-partisan political environment, it s kept people distracted, it has some people claiming the president is illegitimate, having the administration constantly dealing with these things. for them, even if they don t get a pro-russian president, they ve still kind of tied us up a little, and so for very little investment, that s kind of a cheap win. leland: well, and to that point in terms of being tied up, you think about we now have multiple investigations up on capitol hill into russian meddling, big senate hearing coming up this week. yeah. leland: that going to change anything? no. and this also shows the limits of that. a, they didn t get a pro-russian president. look, i worked on the presidential transition team. there was never anything in the plan that said let s be weak on putin or kind of lame on nato. it just was never in the plan. so they were never going to get a pro-russian president, and they didn t get one, so that got them nothing. and in a sense, even if the united states wanted to do something nice with the russians now, it s going to be very, very difficult. everybody in congress hates them, the administration would be criticized. and, but i think all these, the political kind of trying to demonstrate clues, you don t know what you don t know, obviously, and i don t know everything, but so far nothing has demonstrated anything like collusion, so it hasn t even really slowed the administration down. and in the end, it s actually weakened putin because now they do this stuff so much that people are getting used to it. leland: well, has it weakened him it certainly hasn t weakened him internally. well, it has in the sense that putin is respected when he s strong, and he s pushing people around, and when he s not pushing people around like when somebody sends a 59-cruise missile message to your ally, that does make you look weaker. leland: okay. and so he s antagonized europe so much that he s actually created the pushback that he didn t want. and he is running out of spaces to meddle. so ironically, all this russian meddling is actually not really paying off for the russians. leland: interesting, interesting perspective, james. always good to hear from you. thanks so much. thank you for having me. leland: good to see you. liz? elizabeth: el with, the house well, the house republican bill to repeal and replace obamacare now heads to the senate. many of the same issues that stalled the bill in the lower chamber will be debated again and again in the upper chamber, but the process may take a little bit longer. allison barber has more. hi, allison. reporter: hi, elizabeth. you how remember that supporters of the bill in the house celebrated its passage in a very big way at the rose garden with the president. but that is just the first step in the senate the debate is only beginning. well, the senate will write its own bill. i mean, that s the way it works, right? they ll pass theirs, we ll pass ours, and then we ll go to conference. reporter: the house passed their bill thursday. some on the left like senator tim kaine say for starters they need to say the estimated cost. they rushed through a bill without knowing how many millions of people it would hurt, without knowing how much it would cost, without a protection for people with pre-existing conditions. reporter: and quite a few republicans are looking at it with caution. part of the problem i have is that the underlying premise of obamacare was that the federal government would, for the first time, buy insurance policy for people. that fundamental promise of obamacare is kept. some of the things we re going to have to work on, for example, are the refundable tax credit. we need to make sure that that s sufficient so that low income people can actually buy a policy. we will work together carefully to write our own bill. we will make sure we know what our bill costs. reporter: special budget rules allow the senate to pass health care with just 51 votes, but republicans probably need some help from democrats. republicans have the majority in the senate, but it s not as big as what they have in the house. elizabeth? elizabeth: all right. allison barber reporting live, thank you so much. for more, let s bring in sean noble and blake rutherford who served on hillary clinton s finance team in philadelphia. blake, i think i know what your response is going to be, so i m going to toss this first question to sean. sean, we saw a big celebration in the rose garden this week. jumping the gun a little bit on that? i don t know if it s jumping the gun as much as it s sending a message to the supporters of repealing obamacare that we ve takennen the first step and that this process is now underway. i think they needed to do it because there was some concern from the base that they weren t going to do it. they, you know, they had a false start where they didn t get the votes and they pulled the vote back a couple weeks ago, so i think they wanted to send a message that said, hey, we re serious about this, and we re taking steps to get obamacare repealed. elizabeth: blake, i want to bring you in, because i assume i know your response on this one, but i also want to ask you, you know, make no mistake about it, this is not what we re going to see in the senate. no, we re not going to see anything like this in the senate. i think we can expect the senate will take a paper shredder to the house bill. elizabeth: are they going to make sure they get all the republicans except two or get the democrats involved? mitch mcconnell has not expressed any interest in working with the democrats, so if reconciliation is the way they re going to go, i think they would be smart to revisit their strategy, however, because i think the house bill is so politically toxic already that the senate s distancing itself from it. they re going to have to revisit this entirely. we now have a house in play because, because they took that vote. so i think the senate will have to reconsider that s fundamentally not true. in a much different way. i think sean now will probably have to anytime that it was admit that it was a curious political strategy by the republicans. elizabeth: sean, i wanted to talk about that later, but you brought up 2018 so, sean, i want to let you respond. yeah. i think it s not necessarily curious strategy. the strategy is to use reconciliation to take the first step in repealing obamacare. this isn t going to happen in reconciliation. they re then going to go to regular process to do other reforms that are necessary to completely root this thing out. but this is far from being an election issue at this point. remember, the democrats passed a bill in 2009, in october or november of 2009, and celebrated it. then the senate passed a bill on christmas eve, a draft bill really. and then after they lost the scott brown seat or the ted kennedy seat to scott brown in january of 2010, they went to reconciliation. so we re using reconciliation to unwind what they put in place by reconciliation. so this is far from over, and i don t think it s going to be a bad thing for republicans come election 2018. i think by the time we get there if obamacare has not been repealed and it s still in place, it will have caused so many problems with rising premiums, businesses having to lay people off because of how expensive health care is, there s going to be a clamoring. and i think republicans were smart to start this process. and if they get done by election day, that s going to be better for them. elizabeth: okay, i want to move the conversation a little bit forward because i want to talk about the senate. that s what we re going to be talking about for the next couple of weeks, perhaps even june until we get that omb scoring. there s a dozen lawmakers getting together vying to make this a better law, and i want to talk optics because there s a lot of men in that group, there s a lot of white men. there s two women that are not included, susan collins from maine and lisa murkowski. so i want to toss to you, blake. when we talk about making this law better, do their need to be more voices at the table that we know of right now? oh, absolutely, there need to be more voices at the table. the thought that only 12 white men are going to craft a senate health care bill is preposterous. i mean, we certainly need to include not only women, but minorityies. and the republican party really has to think about the consequences of this house vote as they draft this bill because the house vote not only eliminates the pre-existing condition option, it taxes older americans, and it looks like that while we don t know what it s going to cost, that it s likely to kick some 24-26 million people off their health insurance which is just a wild endeavor while the only true benefit that any republican can talk about is that it gives tax cut to the wealthy. elizabeth: all right, sean if that s the senate plan, then sure, they can stick with this crew of 12 and achieve that same end. i certainly hope that s not the case. elizabeth: sean, i want to give you the last word. we did have representative rooney from south florida who said that initial omb report was completely false, so there are some voices that say we re going to be seeing a much more positive cbo score this go around, but i m going to go ahead and give you the last word. i think that we ll see a better score. i think that this is the beginning of the process. this is far from over. and for the democrats to be spiking the football saying we re going to win the majority over this, it s really premature for that. elizabeth: gentlemen, thank you so much. we ll be sure to have you back, because this debate is not going anywhere. thank you, gentlemen. thank you. elizabeth: for more on the health care debate and trump white house, be sure to tune into fox news tomorrow for an all new media buzz. howard kurtz talks to former trump campaign manager corey lewandowski at 11 a.m. eastern. and white house chief of staff reince priebus joins chris wallace on fox news sunday to weigh in on the next steps for the administration. check your local listings for time and channel. leland: not the news anybody wants to hear. more rain is on the way to the midwest. an area already dealing with flooding and extreme devastationing, the weather devastation, the weather has killed ten, and it is not over. meteorologist adam klotz with how bad it will get for folks up and down the mississippi: hi, adam. the biggest story as we continue on with this is just the rising water levels. so even though, yes, more rain on the way, the heaviest rain moved on out, but the water levels continue to rise. and that s the issue. areas across the midwest each one of these is under a flood watch, portions of indiana running down to the ohio river, eventually the mississippi, all cresting today and that s going to be a real problem for folks who live right along that waterway. we did see showers move on through the area just within the last couple of hours. this cell getting into portions of kentucky, now down over towards the tennessee area, eastern tennessee. as this moves off to the east, that s good news, it clears off on the back side. but this is a large system and all areas where we re going to see off and on showers. this isn t really heavy rain today, but it s just that rain that s going to linger. it s going to be cloudy, a little bit of a raw day for folks across the area. here s what it looks like on your future radar. this system continuing to slowly lift up to the north and east and not an all-day or consistent rain but off and on showers running into your sunday, eventually running into monday morning by the time this finally clears off and perhaps we see a little bit more sun shine. how much rain am i talking about? here s your forecast and precipitation. these aren t big numbers, anywhere from a couple tenths of an inch up to an inch or two inches. so it s just one of those weekends where it s a good idea, leland, probably keep that umbrella handy, but i m not expecting a lot more rainfall accumulation, not anything like we ve seen in the last week or so. leland: as you point out, the qume la cumulative effect in places like missouri is devastating. yeah, we re seeing it today. leland: adam, thank you. still ahead, we ll speak to the missouri governor on how he s planning to move forward after the severe storms. there s a drive there to get clean-up supplies to those who need it most. that s coming up later in the hour. elizabeth: coming up, one texas police officer turning himself in facing murder charges over the death of a 15-year-old boy. plus, we ll put aside the politics and break down just what is in the new health care bill known as trumpcare. and a photo finish. a dozen athletes from across one of the world s most famous borders in a stunt they say is just for one reason. it s not a protest. it s not a political statement. this is purely for human rights and casting a pot light on human suffering spotlight on human suffering and that every life is valuable. that s what this is about. that fresh air all up in your face. my cousin wilbur in the city has to wear a leash just to go for a stroll. i m sorry, that.no. but with propane, you can live where you want and how you want. and since it s both clean and reliable, you could say propane is man s best fuel. she knows what i m talkin about ykeep you sidelined.ng that s why you drink ensure. with 9 grams of protein and 26 vitamins and minerals. for the strength and energy to get back to doing. .what you love. ensure. always be you. my insurance rates are but dad, you ve got. .allstate. with accident forgiveness they guarantee your rates won t go up just because of an accident. smart kid. indeed. it s good to be in, good hands. saw a car filled with five black teenagers leaving the property. originally, the police chief said the car was aggressively driving in reverse towards the officers, and that s why oliver fired, but after reviewing body camera video, the chief said the car was actually driving away from the officers when oliver was shot or when oliver shot edwards. oliver was fired tuesday, and the edwards family attorney is celebrating the murder charge. i honestly began to cry because i just did not believe that things could actually work the way that they re supposed to work. and so it was a very emotional moment for me. reporter: and oliver isn t the only officer making national headlines this week. on tuesday former south carolina police officer michael flager pleaded guilty after shooting an unarmed black man in the back after a traffic stop to. and then on wednesday, the doj declined to charge officers in the death offalton sterling, the louisiana of altonster sterling. liz. elizabeth: will carr, thank you so much. leland? leland: these folks are certainly dedicated as they took the plunge to show support, they say. a group of people swam across the border yesterday to show their support for immigrant and human rights. swimmers from the united states, mexico, israel and south africa were among the 12 athletes to make the swim in the pacific ocean from imperial beach, california, to tijuana. if you re counting, that is 6.2 miles. how do you carry your passport when you re swimming? elizabeth: maybe you get a waterproof case. leland: yeah. that guy s happy. elizabeth: all right. coming up after the break, a father of five killed in a random act of violence in las vegas. and the gop bill to repeal and replace obamacare is on its way to the senate. but what s in it? we re going to break through the partisan spin and get down to some facts for you coming up next. i think most importantly, yes, premiums will be coming down. yes, deductibles will be coming down. but very importantly, it s a great plan. heads to the senate where senate members say there are a lot of changes to come. a white house reporter at the wall street journal joins us now. nice to see you, louise. big picture here, you do get a sense this is going to be a lot hardener the senate than it was in harder in the senate than it was in the house. certainly, the margin of error is even slimmer. you can t afford to lose more than two senators in the gop caucus. there are at least three gop senators on both sides of the party spectrum who have said they want things that are irreconcilably different from what the other side wants. leland: senators re, cruz and rand paul who basically said not a chance. right. rand paul kind of out there on his own, so everybody has to figure out what s up with the three of them. leland: how much political capital does the white house really have to spend on this, or did they spend it all on the house? they certainly say they re going to be very engaged with the senate. they say people say they didn t think they could get it done in the house, they think they can apply the same sort of magic that they managed to eke out a leland: was this white house magic or paul ryan magic? you know, if you watched the rose garden ceremony on thursday, everybody was lavishing creditten on everybody credit on everybody. republican members had run on this for three straight elections and said whatever happened, they had to at least get something out of the house. that was the real magic. leland: we have of a lot of folks here who have a lot of history covering the white house and capitol hill as you do, and i don t know if anybody could remember the last time there was a ceremony in the rose garden after a bill passed one chamber. it was certainly a victory lap. on the other hand, getting that bill through the house against all the odds could quite reasonably be seen as a considerable victory against the odds for this white house. leland: well, certainly, they want to play it that way. with is there a danger or was there a calculus of whether there s a danger in having a moment like this if all of a sudden it fails in the senate? it also did leave the impression that this was going to be the great, shining moment for their effort. leland: yeah. well, it cuts both ways. after this, especially after it passed, we saw the sort of insane talking points from both sides really come out. if you listen to democrats, you know, if you ve ever stubbed your toe, you re not going to be able to get health care. if you listen to the president, dedeductibles and premiums are coming down, and more importantly as he said, it s going to be great. you get the sense that neither side s really telling you the full deal here. well, health policy is confusing and complicated, and that leaves a lot of room for partisanship. there are arguments that each side can maker for their case. what americans are ultimately wrestling with is this difference between whether you want lower premiums, which you could have, or whether you want to cover everyone regardless of their medical history, which you could always have. americans have never been asked to choose which one they want. leland: that s what politicians do, promise you thinks you can t have. happens all the time. the question though for the white house right now is really how far can we push in the senate to get this through. what cookies are on the table right now. well, the white house knows there are going to have to be changes in the senate. they don t necessarily think the senate is going to be rewriting it perhaps as aggressively as they also know that tax credits and the way they re structured in this new republican bill are on the table, so both are going to be things that occupy people for the next few weeks, months, however lock they re going at this. leland: how worried is the white house about the sound bites being created by the president of pre-existing conditions will be covered, you will have lower deductibles and premiums when we don t have the cbo scoring and really, as we learned from obamacare, there s a law of unintended consequences when it comes to health care legislation? certainly, the last administration did learn towards the end that some of the promises that president obama had made at the beginning were very hard to live up to. but they also saw those as necessary things that needed to be said at the time to get the bill passed. in some ways, you fight the battle that s immediately in front of you and worry about the later battle later. leland: and this white house seems okay with that philosophy as well. sor for now. leland: thanks again. great seeing you. liz? elizabeth: well, we ve been talking a lot about the election in france, but it s not the only big election on our radar this week. on tuesday south koreans will head to the polls to elect a new leader two months after the country s former president was impeached on corruption charges. u.s. relations hang in the balance while tensions rise in the korean peninsula. a 64-year-old civil rights lawyer has a strong lead. moon has been critical of u.s. deployment of an anti-ballistic missile defense system known as thad in south korea, seen here, a move the previous president had endorsed. and take a look at this. severe flooding swamps the midwest. people are not out of the woods just yet. we re going to talk with missouri s governor about the big clean-up and the danger his state is still facing after the break. and police are searching for the suspects seen here accused of fatally punching a stranger. the latest leads in that case and what we re learning about the victim in this very tragic story when we come back. that guy murdered my son. he was a husband, a father to five kids, and he was my best friend. pression is a tangle pression is a tangle of multiple symptoms. that s why there s trintellix, a prescription medication for depression. trintellix may help you take a step forward in improving your depression. tell your healthcare professional right away if your depression worsens, or you have unusual changes in mood, behavior or thoughts of suicide. antidepressants can increase these in children, teens and young adults. do not take with maois. tell your healthcare professional about your medications, including migraine, psychiatric and depression medications, to avoid a potentially life-threatening condition. increased risk of bleeding or bruising may occur, especially if taken with nsaid pain relievers, aspirin or blood thinners. manic episodes or vision problems may occur in some people. may cause low sodium levels. the most common side effects were nausea, constipation and vomiting. trintellix had no significant impact on weight in clinical trials. ask your healthcare professional about trintellix. leland: all right. now down to venezuela as the political crisis there continues. the death toll has risen now to at least 33 people that we know of as socialist president nicholas no during row increasingly cracks down on demonstrators simply calling for elections. that oil-rich country is dealing with hyperinflation and major food shortages due primarily to ma during row s radical left-wing policies. drop in oil prices have added to the country s troubles. u.s. national security adviser h.r. mcmaster met with the national assembly president yesterday who opposes ma during row. they maduro. based on this video, one wonders if a peaceful solution is possible. elizabeth: here in the u.s. people in the midwest are knee deep in clean-up this weekend after heavy rains caused severe flooding across parts of missouri, arkansas, illinois and louisiana. officials are blaming this flooding for at least six deaths in missouri alone with governor eric greitens declared a state of emergency. the mississippi and missouri rivers are expected to crest today. they could reach 12 feet above flood level, so people are not in the clear just yet. governor greitens joins us now from the phone in missouri. governor, thank you so much for joining us, sir. so you re not out of the woods yet, what are you telling residents today? look, this has been a historic flood in missouri. we ve had 13 major rivers and creeks that have passed all-time, historic highs, and tonight it s very possible that the mississippi near cape gerardo, missouri, is also going to hit a historic high. so we are still in the flood-fighting phase of this operation. i ve signed an executive order to get hundreds of national guard troops as well as thousands of volunteers out on the front line ands could not be prouder of the way the people of missouri have responded. first responders have conducted hundreds of rescue operations, literally saving hundreds of lives. we want everybody to stay safe, and everybody on front lines we appreciate their incredible volunteer work. elizabeth: yeah. some of the video that we re seeing is just absolutely, it s breathtaking. i want to talk to you a little bit about the economic impact. i mean, you re talking about towns that are completely underwater, but aside from the damage, i also want to ask you about commerce because there s roads, hundreds of roads that are closed. amtrak is not able to function and especially boat traffic when you talk about the rivers cresting today, so boat traffic is halted. so i want to ask you, sir, about the mic impact the economic impact. look, there has been, obviously, a major short-term economic impact because we have had hundreds of roads closed, lots of trains and, of course, ports which are incredibly important to us here in the state of missouri. longer term we have had some, you know, entire communities which were virtually underwater. i ve been in west plains, van buren, missouri, all of these communities incredibly hard hit including dozens of businesses, hundreds of homes. so for us as we get past the flood-fighting stage, we ll also be moving into the recovery phase. we have declared a state of emergency here. i have every expectation that this will lead the level for a federal disaster declaration, and we ll be bringing resources to the bear as part of this critical economic recovery as well. elizabeth: okay, you talk about resources. i m asking, have you asked for any assistance from the federal government? there s been a lot of talk when we ve seen natural disasters like in that these, perhaps, could be some of the programs or funding that is actually proposed to be cut out of the budget in 2018. so i want to ask you, have you gone to the federal government and asked for help? you know, i spoke to president trump last week, told him about what the situation was here, and his message was really clear. he just said, eric, we ve been watching you and the people of missouri, you re doing a great job, let us know anything we can do to help. so our next step in the process is to do formal assessments of all the the damage throughout the counties in missouri, and then we will make a declaration for this to be declared as a federal disaster which would then activate those federal resources. so i am planning to make that application. elizabeth: all right. my last question, you talked about the national guard and the volunteers. what else are you seeing on the ground there? i know you and i had talked before the break that really you re flabbergasted by some of the people who are reaching out to help the victims of this disaster. i ll tell you, i was in west plains, missouri, yesterday and this is a town that was incredibly hard hit. you had first responders saving lives, and then what i saw was so many volunteers from the red cross, from churches coming together to help their friends, their family and sometimes to help complete strangers clean out their house, make sure that they re providing warm meals, shelter, clothing. and it is really heartening to see the way the people of missouri are dealing with hardship but coming out stronger on the other side. elizabeth: all right. governor greitens, thank you so much for joining us. you are in our thoughts and prayers, sir. god bless you. thank you. leland: now to san francisco where a truck driver escaped unharmed after his truck fell into a sinkhole. the sinkhole was about 5 feet deep, 15 feet wide. the driver had pulled over and stopped when he noticed his truck was starting to sink. then they pulled the truck back out. hmm. elizabeth: all right. coming up after the break, seeking justice. one heart broken family is asking your help to find a man who allegedly murdered this father of five children with just a single sucker punch. plus it was just a year ago that new yorkers first beheld the hinten berg soaring majestically past the new york skyline. elizabeth: remembering one of the worst aviation disasters in history caught on film 80 years ago today. 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it s just sickening to me. that guy murdered my son. he was a husband, a father to five kids. and he was my best friend. reporter: the campos brothers, there are four of them in all, had arranged a rare get-together in vegas to celebrate adam s upcoming wedding. the brothers say louie was loving every minute of that trip, and they loved every minute they spent with him. now, they just want to see justice for that man who took their brother s life. leland? leland: makes you angry in so many ways to watch that video. jonathan hunt in los angeles. jonathan, thank you. we want to give you an opportunity to see the surveillance video again. not much of a description, but there s a lot you can tell from a video like that, the way they walk, the way they hold their hands. if you have any information on the suspects, you can help. call the las vegas metropolitan police department, 702-828-3521. elizabeth: coming up, devils of the deep putting op a very colorful display at a national park in florida. we ll explain. it s how well you mow fast. it s not how fast you mow. .it s how well you mow fast! they re not just words to mow by, they re words to live by. the john deere ztrak z345r. up close and personal encounter, according to news harold, schools of the dark-colored fish have spent the last week making their way on what s known as the kitty pool. i ve been there, it s beautiful. they don t have barbs so they can sting but, of course, wildlife experts does not recommend petting them. i would say telling me not to worry when that s in the water, i m going to worry. they don t have barbs. they know that how? 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during a news conference with italy s prime minister, a news conference heavy on world pressure points include north korea and iran. john roberts tonight. the summit was meant to be from the close ties between the two countries and their mutual cooperation to fight the scorch of terror. the need for which was underscored even as the two leaders were talking. terrorism and global hot spots were high on the agenda today as president trump met with italy s prime minister paolo gentiloni, learning of the shooting in paris as it was wrapping up. it looks like another terrorist attack. what can you say it, it never ends. we have to be strong and we have to be vigilant. the two leaders also spoke about north korea and iran, north korea issuing a new threat warning of a super-mighty preemptive strike that will quickly and immediately wiped out u.s. imperialist invasion forces in south korea and its surrounding areas but the u.s. mainland and reduce them to ashes. the u.s. has so far been of the keith north korea and check through negotiations with the leaders, but kim jong-un is much more of a wild card. do you believe that the leader of north korea, kim jong-un, is mentally unstable? is that one of the reasons that you are so concerned with these latest developments? is he a man who can be reasoned with? we are building our military rapidly. a lot of things have happened over the last short period of time. i have been here for approximately 91 days. we are doing a lot of work. we are in very good position. we are going to see what happens. i can t answer your question on stability. i hope the answer is a positive one, not a negative one, but hopefully that will be something that gets taken care of. after a week s today to participate in military exercises with australia come at the aircraft carrier carl vinson are finally steaming for the sea of japan. today the president appeared to play down the imminence of military action, saying his talks two weeks ago with president xi jinping appeared to be bearing fruit. i can say from my standpoint, i like him very much, i respect and very much, and i think he is working very hard. many other things have happened, some very unusual moves have been made over the last two or three hours, and i really have confidence that the president will try very hard. we don t know whether or not they are able to do that, but i have absolute confidence that he will be trying very, very hard. in his press conference for the italian prime minister, the president also made it clear he remains highly skeptical of the iran nuclear deal despite the fact his secretary of state, rex tillerson, certified on tuesday that iran is living up to the terms of the joint comprehensive plan of action. do you have reason to believe that they are cheating on the jcpoa? they are not living up to the spirit of the agreement, i can tell you that, and we re analyzing it very, very carefully and we ll have something to say about it in the not-too-distant future. but iran has not lived up to the spirit of the agreement. and they have to do that. they have to do that. the president and the prime minister reaffirmed their commitment to work together and through nato to fight terrorism at the islamic state. when asked if he saw a role for the u.s. and the deteriorating situation in libya, president trump indicated he sees a limit in global conflict. i do not see a role in libya. i think the united states right now has enough roles. i do see a role in getting rid of isis, we are very effective in that regard. the french president francois hollande said he does believe it is a act of terror, and one of the finalists, francoix fillon, says he believes that campaigning should be paused. bret: i spoke with prime minister paolo gentiloni about his country s relations with the u.s. and the changing economic environment in europe. i started by asking him what he was hoping for from his meeting at the white house. well, first of all, to confirm the strength of our relation. the u.s. had a very, very strong relation, and we consider this the pillar of our foreign policy. and second, i hope to have a common view on how the meeting we are having insistently of the g7 will be helpful for the major free world economies to go united in the world that we are facing, and i hope that we will renew the efforts, both of america and italy in the mediterranean region that for us is security, migration, and the fight against terrorism. acting together is very relevant for us. bret: it is such a fascinating time with so many issues pending. one of the biggest is brexit and great britain leaving the e.u. what does that mean to you? it is obviously a negative decision, but we respect the decision of the people. negative because it weakens, in any case, the european union. britain was one of the four man counters of the club. i hope we will have a fair negotiation, and to have a fair negotiation, what is crucial is to maintain e.u. unity. we are not more together in the european union, but we remain friends and partners. bret: do you fear other countries will follow the u.k. s lead? i don t think this is now the real situation in europe. well, you can never know. but we have had a lot of discussion in the previous weeks on the possibility in certain countries, and the netherlands, and austria, of prevailing opposition anti-e.u., but i don t think that this possibility is real. bret: we have seen this rising nationalism, not only here, obviously with president trump s election, but brexit, the popularity of marine le pen. how strong do think this nationalism is, and you see it in italy? the fact that many countries are asking to defend their national interest is understandable. the fact that many countries are stressing the necessity to defend their own tradition, their own history, that is the vitality of our democracy. what is negative and could be even dangerous is when nationalism becomes another thing, an instrument to fight your neighbor or other countries. unfortunately, we commit the europeans, are the master of this kind of danger because we provoked two world voice exactly for this reason. one nation against another. there are different degrees of nationalism. bret: how concerned are you about the migrant crisis in the mediterranean? it s one of the two main issues in europe know, one is migration, the other is growth, economy, jobs, investments. as far as migration is concerned, i think we need a couple of things. one, more countries available to share the burden. we can t accept the fact that geography decides the burden is to greece or italy or whoever. second, we have to strengthen our action to defeat the network of smugglers and traffickers. this is not spontaneous movement. it is something organized by criminal networks. will this counter the phenomenon? no. we need developments to cancel the phenomenon. but you can reduce the flow. bret: your country about the u.s. to fight drones from sicily into libya to fight isis. how would he describe the relationship today? the support of the government with u.s. air action and with our logistics support has been very effective, and now it is no more there. but if you have a failed state, a fragile government in this situation, there is always the risk of terrorism infiltrating and terrorist threats. so what we need is, having made some mistake in libya, we, the italians, the americans, the french, the u.k., we have to be honest in recognizing this. now we have a duty, even a moral duty to contribute to stabilize. it is still fragile. there is a government, but we have to enlarge spaces and to gather other forces around this government. bret: it is a serious problem. you are the president of the g7. italy has always been, it seemed, open to russia, but considering russia s moves here in the u.s. prior to the elections, maybe other european nations as well, what would it take for russia to get to g8? is that a possibility? at the moment, no. what is, i think, not only possibility but a necessity is to maintain an involvement, an open door, a dialogue with russia. the idea of isolating russia, this is what history shows us, has always been counterproductive. who knows if, in the future, direct involvement. but it is not for the g7. bret: not this time around. for sure. bret: president trump has said he wants nato countries to step up as far as how much they are contributing to nato. 2016 data had italy at about the 20th. is this a legitimate concern, and is it going to step up its contribution to nato. we respect the commitment that we took. we are on track gradually, because our economy is growing, but we would like to have it faster growing. you can name every single military operation of nato from the baltic to the balkans and you will see an italian strong presence. so this is something we are very proud of, and it is not an alternative to augment military expenditure with a rate that will be manageable for our economy and our growth. bret: it is legitimate for president trump to call for the 2% gdp? absolutely. it is legitimate, and it is legitimate for us to say that this engagement, we are there, we will it correctly. bret: just talked with middle eastern leaders who had spoken with president trump, and they were effusive about how the situation had changed from their point of view in the middle eas middle east. i m wondering if there is a sense in europe about president trump. if you were to describe it, is it apprehension, is it opportunity? the europe and the u.s. are so strongly connected, the fact that you change the president cannot change the relation between europeans and americans. these are two of the pillars of our western democracy. nobody is interested to have bad relations. and i think also the u.s. administration understands the importance of europe. it is not something of the second world war, it is something for now and for the future. bret: what keeps you up at night? [laughs] so many threats. but you have to sleep. [laughs] bret: mr. prime minister, we appreciate your time. grazie, thank you. bret: in the meantime, tens of thousands of people are gathering right now in caracas, venezuela, one day after nationwide demonstrations against the governments they are left three people dead and hundreds arrested. also today, the state department says it is looking into an almost 20-year-old lawsuit that led to the venezuelan government to seize a general motors factor viii this week. gm has about 2700 workers in that country. it says the government s asset seizure is illegal. president trump s ambassador to the united nations is trying to shake things up there. senior correspondent rick leventhal tells us nikki haley has come to the world body with a unique agenda. speak at 7,929th meeting of the security council is called to order. every three months for the past 17 years, the united nations security council has matured is called an open debate on the middle east, focusing on the palestinian question and at school for an independent state alongside israel. critics say the meetings have traditionally been israeli-bashing sessions and accomplished little. if we are speaking honestly, we need to start with the chief culprit, iran and its partner militia, hezbollah. refocusing on state-sponsored terrorism, signaling out iran s support of hezbollah, which she says is the far greater threat. where there is terror, where there is death, where there is complete disregard for human life, there is iran. iran continues to play a destabilizing role in the region. this is most clearly seen in syria. russia, a key iranian ally, was quick to change the subject. we would like to express our categorical disagreement with the attempt to tailor this to the domestic context and the focus. by blaming all others but the occupier, the u.s. seeks to erase the question rather than addressing it. saying hailey s determination could eventually being results. i think a cultural shift is underway, it takes persistence, and she is going to bring end. the session lasted more than six hours, and they did extend per investor hailey s request, but there was nothing else remarkable about this meeting, and her tenure ends in ten days. bret? bret: rick leventhal. thank you. up next, hate crimes and what is called victimization chic. first, fox 4 in dallas as bernie sanders tries to fire up democrats in north texas, sanders held a rally in grand prairie about half between dallas and fort worth. the event is part of what is being called the come together and fight back to her. fox 11, the city declares a homeless shelter crisis, that enables organizations to operate without going through bureaucratic red tape. lastly saying there were 28,000 homeless people living inside the city. and this is a live look at new york from our affiliate fox 5, smoking may soon be getting a lot more expensive for new yorkers. democratic mayor bill de blasio wants to raise the minimum price for a pack of cigarettes to $13 in the city. the current minimum is $10.50. de blasio possesses antismoking agenda could reduce the number of smokers in new york by 160,000 in the coming years. opponents say the city s high prices have already pushed many smokers into buying untaxed and unregulated cigarettes on the black market. that is 25 look from outside the beltway port special report pete will be right back so when it comes to pain relievers, why put up with just part of a day? aleve, live whole not part. tell you what, i ll give it to you for half off. all the time in the news, hate crime, culture of hate. but what does it really mean and how many of those so-called crimes are real? doug mckelway looks into those questions tonight. last week, and indian-owned store in charlotte, north carolina, was set on fire and a racist note left behind that read we need to get rid of muslims, indians, and all immigrants. it was signed white america. this week, police arrested a african-american man after police showed him lighting the fire. the police does not track fake hate or false crime. there are a large number of cases, certainly dozens or hundreds of year, and have been for at least the past 30 years. the website vacatecrimes vacatecrimes.org tracks them, expelling a jewish man is the primary suspect in hundreds of bomb threats, in january, a black waitress in virginia claimed a customer wrote on the receipt, great service, don t tip black people. shocked, very shocked. the customer maintained that it was written by the waitress who was upset over her one cent tip for bad service. and a muslim woman who claims that three men attacked her and tried to pull off her key job was accused of the campus focused on micro-aggressions and safe spaces is the perfect incubator to fake hate crimes. this isn t just my opinion. this is apparently widely recognized them. i would say 80% of events that occur on the campus are hoaxes or pranks. they believe that vacate makes up only a tiny fraction of the real thing. we have tracked a spike in hate crimes since particularly the election. so in the week after the election we tracked 111 separate incidents. there was a time at which the institutions that dominated and provided that social control were the church and involve and educational systems, and i think that has shifted, and this results in the dumbing down of the consumer. one example, when a youtube hoax or pulled this prank. we spoke a different language on the plane and now we re getting kicked out. that s insane. it was picked up as potential evidence of a hate crime. vacate crimes, despite their huge drain on police resources, are usually classified as misdemeanors. some say elevating them to felony status would go a long way to ending them. bret: a key mortgage interest rate has fallen to its lowest level in five months. freddie mac says the rate on the 30-year fixed home loan stands at 3.97% tonight, a drop from four and eight hundredths last week. the dow up 174, s&p 50018, nasdaq 54. u.s. markets to u.s. politics, saying former president obama is to blame for the party s recent electoral failures. dnc chair keith ellison made the comment yesterday in minnesota. barack obama could have been a better party leader, and i think that the fact that he wasn t has put his legacy in jeopardy. we lost a lot of statehouse seats, secretary of state, his true legacy is in danger, and i think that he can t say that he wasn t part of those losses. who else bret: ellison s representatives say he was talking about reality and not trying to be overly critical. turnover on the supreme court and sometimes impede correspondent peter doocy is here to tell us what the prospects are and what he is hearing. do we know who might be the next justice to retire? bret, we have a short list of who the short timers may be. it is just a very general rumor for the last six months around washington, d.c., and i assume it is somebody that is in their late 70s or early 80s, and there is probably three people that fall into that category. it could be any one of those three. it could be somebody else. the three being alluded to there are liberal justices ruth bader ginsburg and stephen breyer and then the independent-thinking justice anthony kennedy who support justice gorsuch in after serving as his mentor. if president trump was to replace any of them with the reliably conservative justice, it could solidify the currently shaky majority, saying they think they will pick a nominee from the list candidate trump circulated during the campaign, a list that still has 20 well-known conservatives judges on it. less pressure for a moderate because as long as republicans control the senate, they benefit from that nuclear option used a few weeks ago and that they can confirm someone with just 51 votes and they still have got 52 on their side, bret. bret: a lot of talk about movement on health care. we know they have been using recess to try to find middle ground on a deal, but a freedom caucus spokesperson tells me it would get rid of insurance regulations while protecting people with pre-existing conditions. even though a senior g.o.p. aide cautions me there is still no text yet, no way to know how close a vote is, president trump now says he hopes it is next week. we have a good chance of getting it soon. i d like to say next week. but i believe we will get it, whether it s next week or shortly thereafter. the president is also hopeful they will vote for the change. bret: family members after government held prisoner in iran are pleading with the trumpet administration tonight to do something, anything. correspondent rich edson has that story from the state department. these men s families are putting their trust in a tweet. iran sentence circle meant to ten years in prison. iran says they spied for the united states. in october, then heaven candidate trump tweeted, iran has done it again, taking two of our people and asking for a fortune for their release. another family wants president trump to follow through. every day i wake up, and i wonder if today is the day that i m going to get any bad news. he is a businessman and scholar. his attorney says he was the only american excluded from a prison release following the iran nuclear deal. instead, in february 2016, iran arrested his 80-year-old father, a former representative of unicef. president obama failed to secure the release of siamak namazi. like the previous administration, trump officials have raised their case. we have joined recent calls for the immediate release of all u.s. citizens unjustly detained or missing in iran. this is an important step forward but it needs to be followed up by immediate and aggressive action. and the namazis state the situation is becoming more urgent as baquer is ill. if we do not secure their release very soon, i will not see my father, i will not see siamak, my brother. the iran nuclear deal, saying it now involves all aspects of iran s behavior including missile tests, promoting terrorism, and imprisoning americans. bret? bret: bret: rich edson ate state department. last night we told you about the case of former cia officer sabrina de sousa and her ordeal after she was convicted in absentia. after the kidnapping of cleric abu omar. de sousa says her sentence was reduced but she may have to go and testify. today, i asked the italian prime minister about de sousa s fate. the decision has already been taken by the president of the republic who reduced to condemnation, and this created the possibility for this former agent to go back to the u.s. there is no search from italian authorities at all and no call from the italian parliamentary bodies. you think it is pretty much wrapped up? yeah. de sousa said lawyers said that she has emails asking her to appear before a committee, and since a report last night, de sousa s attorneys said they had been contacted by the white house and a senior state department official is being assigned to her case. de sousa s attorneys says no long from the italian government has contacted them to indicate there has been a change in her status or that she is no longer required to do community service or testify. we will follow up. the nation s top law-enforcement officer has has a message to people who want to enter the u.s. illegally. now welcome jeff sessions and john kelly, in el paso, texas, today, observing southern border operations. for those who still seek to violate our laws and enter the country illegally, let me be very clear. don t come. please don t come. when you are caught, you will be detained, adjudicated, and deported. bret: tonight come up we are learning more details about the alleged deportation of an illegal immigrant who came to the u.s. as a child. correspondent william la jeunesse is in tonight. we are going to have an immigration system that works. as a candidate, donald trump promised to deport so-called dreamers. that has yet to happen. we had a deal with daca. juan manuel montes said he was having a hunch with a friend near the border when he was accosted by a porta patrol agent. unable to find his daca i.d., montes says he was deported, it claimed the administration denies, claiming there are no records to support montes claim. instead, officials say montes was already in mexico when they caught him a day later trying to sneak into the u.s. by climbing over a fence. dock and relays are not being targeted. i don t know why this individual was picked up. saying montes did have a legitimate docket status but by going to mexico, he lost his protection. when our agents on the frontline encounter people, they are going to enforce the laws on the books. critics jumped on the montes story for what they consider trumps inhumane policy. calling it disturbing, alarming, senate minority leader nancy pelosi. montes lawyers hope to prove he did not leave the u.s. voluntarily. i bet there is plenty of surveillance video we going to see if he crossed or did not cross. stick with the judge hearinge lawsuit also handled the trump university case. at the time, they claim to indiana-born curiel couldn t be fair. as for montes, now living in mexico waiting to out outcome of his case as of 750 70,750,000 r docket recipients. bret: president trump talks paris terror, iran news, and whether north korea s leader is crazy. we will talk about what we heard today in the news conference and my interview with italy s prime minister. the panel joins me after a quick break. roller derby. now give up half of em. do i have to? 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i have seen some mixed messages. you have met us i m sorry, secretary of state rex tillerson saying it looks like he may be n might be following the letter of divide here. you have trump saying but they are violating the spirit of the law. yesterday, sean spicer told martha maccallum, we are still reviewing end, we haven t reached a conclusion. i think we want to see the administration get on board in terms of how they re going to handle it. what we do know is, if they don t, the future is north korea. and we see what a menace north korea has become because they have a weapon. we cannot let iran get to that point. bret: charles? the president says they are violating the spirit, but they don t say exactly how they are violating the spirit. and he understands he ran against it and the deal has all kinds of shortcomings and defects, but he doesn t have an alternative. in the meantime, if they are living up to the letter of it, means they are a little under control. far more imminent problem is this ballistic missile/nuclear thing that is happening. i thought it was remarkable the degree to which he seemed to be leaning on, counting on his new best friend, the president of china to fix this thing for him. the chinese have failed to deliver on that score many times in the past. bret: does seem like he references frequently that meeting ingmar lago. interesting that so many pendants seem interested on russia, not that those aren t focusing their attention there, and he seems to be optimistic. bret: steve? i think jason s point about iran is right. we are hearing next messages. i think there is a reason for it. the reason is, iran got the goods, got the rewards early, and now it is about compliance. so if the administration tears up the deal, iran has already gotten much of what it took to get it to sign the deal. the united states and people who keep iran from getting a nuclear weapon now want to test the compliance. to broaden the picture, the administration has changed the way it is talking about the threat from iran. the obama administration had chosen this deliberate policy, the decoupling from everything else iran does. you heard in rex tillerson s comments yesterday, you heard from other people in the administration, that is over. that is not happening anymore. going to take on iran, looking at the nuclear weapon, looking at the terrorism, but it is doing in the region. bret: the question is, can you do that, keep the deal, but with the pressure on the other elements, funding table rests? it is tough, as steve said. we are not negotiating it from a position of strength, trump isn t right now, because they have the goods, including a lot of hard cash, actually. it is difficult. we ll see. trump is keeping us guessing, probably keeping the iranians guessing too. to follow up on charles point about north korea, yes, leaning on china to do this is incredible. and explicitly holding out better trade deals. i told them, if they want better terms, wanted more and better trade agreements, you take care of north korea. it is pretty explicit. bret: president trump with the art of the deal. this is an interesting dynamic between the italian prime minister and the president on the issue of libya. we need countries like egypt and tunisia that are close to the ap. we need a stable and unified, and divided in conflict would make stabilityworse. the u.s. s job u.s. role, sorry, in this is very critical. i do not see a role in libya. i think the united states right now has enough roles. we are in a role everywhere. that was the old 2016 candidate trump. we are overstretched come up with been wasting all of our resources on these pores in the middle east, libya was a disaster that give us benghazi and all the best. i m not sure the italian prime minister was really prepared when he said what he said to run into the 2016 edition of president trump. that was a flash of something yet you been trying to play down recently when he is talking in a more friendly way about nato and the commitments overseas. kind of a stunner. bret: mollie? i think they might ve been responding to slightly different questions where the italian p.m. is wanting to emphasize the importance of coalition building and president trump that we don t want to get too involved in foreign agencies. bret: i will sit at the italian prime minister does think that the europe, u.s., italy made a mistake in libya ad has a responsibility. he said in the interview with me, a moral responsibility to help the government to get on its feet. that is a role. wanting to point out that the larger needle role, the larger issue of nato alliances is but it s really interesting from ths discussion. so many members of nato talking about, again, threats from russia and whatnot but not having the budgets that indicate that they are taking those threats seriously or having their military resources allocated in a way that understands those threats. these are the types of discussions that are helpful and good to see. also very complicated when you heard president trump say the u.s. has no role in libya, moments later, a leading role in inviting hezbollah. libya, you fight isis, you fight in libya, not to mention al qaeda. hard to imagine winning a war that the president has said that he wants to win without some u.s. role in libya. bret: more with the panel about that a news conference, health care, and what lies ahead next week in congress. just ahead. in yours. preparation h. get comfortable with it. for being part of your life. all of your life. lls? 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[ toilet flushes ] so when you need a plumber, you can count on us to help you find the right person for the job. discover all the ways we can help at angie s list. liberty stands with you™ liberty mutual insurance. which one is more important do you do have, a vote on health care or a vote on a bill to keep the government open? i want to get both. are you shocked to hear that? we are doing very well in health care. we will see what happens. this will be great health care. it s evolving, you know, there was never a give up. the plan gets better and better and better. it has gotten really, really good. a lot of people are liking it a lot. we have a good chance of getting it soon. i would like to say next week but i believe we will get it. as far as keeping the government open, i think we want to give the government open. don t you agree? i think we ll get both. speak to the president today, that deadline is april 29th for. health care expecting to move forward next week. indications that the house speaker are saying that it is difficult but we are close. at the white house had been talking about having something very soon. this week, we see house leaders temper these expectations and state may take a little bit longer. certainly, conversations are going well. most interesting, the freedom caucus, which is blamed for the failure of the first bill, somewhat unfairly, as shown itself to be quite open to negotiations and the moderates are the ones who are a little bit intractable. bret: where is the hinge point? do we know? what gets across the finish line? one of the issues is the question of the essential health benefits. this package, under the existing obamacare, has to be in every one of the plans and the exchange. will there be any wiggle room on that? related, the question of supplying the government subsidy to the lower income people who are trying to get money on the exchanges. the republicans in the congress actually have a lawsuit, as i understand, going against it because the funds have not been appropriated. that is the kind of money that trump is holding over the heads of the democrats to get them to somehow come in on this. two things. one, we haven t seen legislative language, which we usually see before. bret: apparently, there is a conference on saturday. on the other hand, i think trump is very desperate, frankly, for a big legislative victory in his first 100 days. i think his supporters are very desperate for a big legislative victory. i think he is eager to sign something. i wouldn t put it i don t think it s impossible that something will get done. i think trump republicans control capital held, they control the white house. his supporters want to see something other than executive order signed. bret: the other thing is a government shutdown. what will happen to fund the government? you have the issue of the border wall, funding for the border wall, whether that will be a sticking point. funding for obamacare subsidies. there are threats by democrats of putting something that says president trump has to show his tax returns by july 1st. all kinds of things could happen next week before we get to the end of the week. landmines all over the place. i think next week is likely to be a very heavy newsweek, unlike what we have seen recently. [laughs] going back briefly to the health care debate, one of the most interesting proposals came from two members of the freedom, how s freedom caucus. $50 billion risksharing fund that has the enthusiastic support of some other freedom caucus members, who are opposed to what was happening before. it s backed by house republican leadership and the question remains how do moderates react to this and are they willing to continue to negotiate. bret: the question is, does he get it done? i think he does. the desperation is what makes it most dangerous. getting it done right is the most important thing. not getting it on speedily. everyone wants to get it done. just to remind everyone, passing through the senate before it can be called a legislative victory. what we are talking about here is getting something through the house and claiming a victory on that. it s far from clear to me that whatever the house ends up producing is something that will remotely resemble the final law, if any, that they produce. bret: in the meantime, the big enchilada when you talk to ceos is tax reform. you have leader saying it will happen this year. [laughter] when you talk about landmines, every line of the tax code has ten lobbyists there to defend it. i don t see that happening. i just don t. i don t see it happening. bret: on that optimistic note, we will end here. thank you, panel. tea party, one little girl will never forget. i ve had it up to here! it s been month after month of fiber. weeks taking probiotics! days and nights of laxatives, only to have my symptoms return. 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wanted to have them all in this same meeting in the same room here to discuss all this with the president. but still, even though the vote is scheduled for this evening, expected this evening, other republicans i m talking to here and on capitol hill say they would nobt at all surprised if it was set aside or pushed back. that happens, that s a sign there is a big problem. john? that s an understatement to say the least. jeff zeleny at the white house. let s bring it into the room. house speaker paul ryan was supposed to speak to reporters this morning. he s delayed that until this afternoon. horse trading behind closed doors, wheeling and dealing, the very thing republicans criticize the democrats for doing when they passed obamacare but we ll put that aside for a second. what does this tell you that the president is meeting and gets a standing ovation from members of the house freedom caucus who at the moment you can make the case are undermining the president on priority number one because they won t accept what he thought was the plan early in the week. they are 100% undermining him buy them a la cart. they become unaffordable. are murkowski and collins going to be willing to vote for that. the moderates in the house. you move the bill to the right, it becomes a problem on the left. i ve seen about 30 members opposed. 15 in the freedom caucus, about 15 outside of that. those people are on the left and the more changes you make in terms of maternity leave and things like that. we ve seen four or five members on the left side of the party. they re voting no in the last couple of days. that s where the draining of votes is coming from. what is the president willing to do to get this done. this is the guy who said i can do this. i can cut these deals. even now the changes they ve made so far. they d already agreed to add a work requirement on medicaid. let states pick block grants for the medicaid funding if they wanted to. ban new states. 30-plus states have already expanded medicaid. with a win. but he doesn t have a lot more he can offer them and still hold to what he said during the campaign. we re on what was supposed to be the day of the vote. we ve seen these things play out before. a lot of horse trading. small details. but what they are debating here is the fundamental question of whether the federal government should be dictating what kind of insurance benefits people have or not. and that is the fundamental question that lies at the whole root of this debate. they are actually having this debate at the white house hours before and the man cutting the deal, the closer, is a nonideological republican president who promised many things during the campaign that gives conservatives fits. is he willing to change? you spent a lot of time on capitol hill. if paul ryan has to pull this bill today, what does that say? and for those of you at home, apologies for washington speak but they re trying to do this under reconciliation. the reason they can t do everything is that the senate rules they believe won t allow that. the house is trying to do part of this. what does it say for the speaker if he has to, as speaker boehner did before him, has to pull this? it s very, very bad for his leadership. it s very bad, again, not just for the president but for paul ryan. there s no question about it. is it bad also for tax reform and for everything else down the road? i was just going to saiy, it is also entirely possible that s going to happen, that he is going to have to pull the bill unless the president can seal some kind of deal with this bloc of freedom caucus members who are there right now. but what does that mean? let s just take this hypothetical down the road here. if he has to pull the bill, it is possible that it probable that they ll turn to tax reform. and i actually think something like tax reform could be more of a consensus builder for republicans. could be. could be. one big exception, though. the import adjustment. no question. they could have the same dynamic. no question, they could. but it s not as personal for these constituents. and health care is about as personal as it gets when you talk about legislation that affects me. that affects people would the freedom caucus be team players once obama was out of the presidency? sounds like they re behaving the exact same way they were before. that s important the question is the model they re establishing. if the price of getting it out of the house is adding provisions that make it almost impossible to pass the senate, even if they do pass it in the next several days, have they created a precedent that s valuable or damaging? can i just answer your question in one other way as well about paul ryan s leadership? there already has been a lot of second-guessing about the way he approached this from the beginning. basically for a lot of conservatives, he compromised and negotiated with himself. this has already been too moderate. that he should have, knowing the freedom cacaucus, knowing the w has republicans are, started further to the right knowing that when he gets to the senate it s going to have to be moderated and even more so and that many members of the freedom caucus understand that. that they are already starting, from their perspective, way too far to the middle. the congressional budget offers said would remove health insurance for 24 million people and they may vote before having a final estimate on this bill, which likely would be even higher and would have higher out-of-pocket costs for those older working age adults. a majority of votes came from whites over 45. three-quarters of all people in the country over 45 are white. these are republican voters who would be the big losers in this shift of risk and cost that is inherent in the deregulation in this bill. we ll come back to this later. we are keeping an eye on this meeting. someone else has his phone or he s taking a break. he just tweeted out, we re going to pass this. contact your representatives. the president is asking for your help, even as he s in this key meeting. we ll track the defining day on health care throughout the program. one american killed. now the attacker has been identified. the latest on the london terror investigation just ahead. you sidelined. that s why you drink ensure. with 9 grams of protein and 26 vitamins and minerals. for the strength and energy to get back to doing. .what you love. ensure. always be you. got a minute? 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it was striking. he was very quiet yesterday. they put out a read-out of his call with theresa may. he was just beginning a meeting when they got news of the attack. he made a very glancing reference to it. some news out of london and did not take the opportunity to talk about radical islamic terrorism or this is why we need to get tough or this is why we need my travel ban. it was very muted and what we learned later he s been talking to his national security adviser about this, i think that that s probably the reason why. they also hadn t learned a whole hell of a lot by the time that hasn t stopped him before. that has not stopped him before. that s a striking contrast. that look felt like a tweet that may have been written by someone else. the staff. may have felt like a staff tweet as opposed to the tap with two ps in the middle of the night. we re probably going to see a presidency that goes back and forth and any time you look you ve turned the corner and have a restrained donald trump as president, you know, a few hours later you ll have something else. his son acted differently. donald trump jr. tweeting an old article from the london mayor, a muslim, from september 22, 2016 in which the mayor said if you live in a big urban area like this. donald trump tweeted out, you have to be kidding. terror attacks are part of living in a big city, says london mayor. the mayor has said i ve got more important things to do. he quoted the mayor out of context. not to say the way donald trump jr. said. and on day one, donald trump the president behaved differently but i would be curious when the muslim ban conversation comes back, does he start invoking london. the muslim ban grew out of the french attacks in the first place. that was his justification. day one he behaved in a traditional way. i ll be curious if we re talking about the muslim ban, he s defending it, on stage some way next week and invokes it in a way a lot of people don t support. he s someone who generally likes to tweet about things he sees. obviously we ve seen going back way before he was a candidate some of the really bizarre things he decided to comment on. but with regard to yesterday, i m not saying he hasn t learned a lesson and he s not going to be presidential on big moments like this, but he also was a little distracted with trying to say that he was vindicated, which he was not by the house intelligence chair and trying to get his first important critical piece of legislation passed. to donald trump jr., maybe focus on the business and stay out of politics? 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john, u.s. officials tell cnn that the fbi has information that includes human intelligence, travel, business and phone records and accounts of in-person meetings that this information is raising the suspicions of the fbi counterintelligence investigators. and one law enforcement official said that the information suggests people connected to the campaign were in contact and it appeared that they were giving the thumbs up to release information when it was ready. that said, there were other officials we spoke to who said it s premature to draw that inference from the information that s been gathered so far since it s largely circumstantial. the bottom line is that the fbi cannot yet prove that collusion actually took place, but the information suggesting collusion is now the focus of this investigation. i should note the fbi would not comment for this story, nor would the white house. trump officials have denied that there s any evidence of collusion, john. that they have. we should make that clear. they have denied any collusion. they have said they will be proven right. do we know at this point who is being investigated? we don t know exactly who is connected who is connected to trump that s being investigated for possible coordination. but we do know that the fbi has already been investigating four at least four former trump campaign associates, michael flynn, paul manafort, roger stone and carter page for contacts with russians that are known to u.s. intelligence. now all four of these men have denied improper contacts. and one of the interesting things here is that the fbi is running into some obstacles in trying to find any conclusive intelligence that communications between trump s associates and russians was meant for coordination. some of that communication that the fbi knew about has ceased in recent months given the focus on russia s ties to the trump campaign. and also some of the officials at the fbi was keeping an eye on has changed their methods of communications making it that much more difficult for the fbi investigators. evan perez, fascinating investigating. it s clear from the fbi director s public testimony that he admitted and acknowledged the investigation included possible possible urk, under possible coordination. if you thought this was going to go away quickly, no. the quote from the law enforcement official that evan reported was the finish line, i think, in the worst case scenario for republicans as this story has developed. they re not there yet, obviously, as he said. they ve not yet proven this. but the fact they have enough evidence to that someone with knowledge said something that strong about circumstantial evidence or even more than adam schiff said morthan circumstantial, pointed to collusi collusion. we re talking about the stakes raising very quickly. in other scandals in my adult lifetime in washington, things often move forward when individuals begin to face possible legal jeopardy and have to make choices about what they re going to say in congressional testimony or to federal investigators and the fact that there are specific individuals that they were citing as being the areas of focus of this investigation means that things could happen potentially to move this forward more rapidly than seems possible. and as this plays out, the fbi investigation, which as you can tell by evan s choice of words there. we re being very kaurful about what we know and don t know. the fbi clearly has evidence, travel records, other documents, phone calls, scheduled meetings that lead them to believe this is something they need to explore. as that plays out, the fbi director was quite clear, i don t know how long this is going to take. we have intelligence committee investigations and the head of the house intelligence committee caused a bit of a stir yesterday. devin nunes reviewed some intelligence that showed him that members of the trump transition team were under some form of surveillance. he said it was incidental meaning that someone was legally under surveillance, had a conversation with the trump transition. devin nunes said that he believed it had nothing to do with russia, nothing to do with the issue under investigation by his committee at the moment. today he came out from a meeting. the democrats were mad about this. devin nunes took that information and talked to reporters and then went to the president of the united states and briefed him on information before he talked to any other members of the committee. republicans and the ranking democrat. devin nunes emerged from a meeting this morning saying that was his judgment call. it was a judgment call on my part. and that s at the end of the day, sometimes you make the right decisions. sometimes you make the wrong one but you have to stick by the decisions you make. and here before we jump into the politics of this and the fascinating part of this. here s what he said yesterday. he s the chairman of what is supposed to be an independent investigation of possible inappropriate activity by associates of the president of the united states. that s what they re investigating. here s what he why he said he went to the white house. because what i saw is has nothing to do with russia and nothing to do with the russia investigation. has everything to do with possible surveillance activities, and the president needs to know these intelligence reports are out there. i have a duty to tell him that. does he have a duty to tell him that? no, he doesn t. that s not his job at all. the duty when it comes to the president is from the intelligence community. now the cia director, the director of intelligence and so forth. what the duty of the house and senate intelligence committees are is oversight of those communities. it is not to be the person to keep the president inform. he s got an entire intelligence apparatus to do that. one thing i want to add to the reporting here is that now he s saying he made a judgment call. i m told that before he went out to do his initial press conference, first he talked to reporters on the hill and went to brief the president and then came out and talked in that clip he just showed that he was actually very upset, steaming mad about whatever he said he saw or was told about. and that at the time, there were members of the committee, republican members of the committee, trying to calm him down saying a couple of things. don t go out and do a press conference about this. this is going to throw the entire investigation about russia in the garbage, basically. and don t you want to talk to adam schiff, the top democrat before you do this? he was so mad, he said no. and one of the reasons i m told by a source familiar with this meeting is because he said adam schiff at the hearing on monday, where they had james comey, had a 15-minute monologue trying to connect dots that weren t there and he was upset about that. but it s pretty clear in what he said today that he realizes now that he s calm that he probably should have heeded the advice of those republicans. like your mother told you, count to ten. not only is this not his role as the intelligence committee chairman but particularly when this investigation is going on. the fact that he came out and did this now taints the investigation which is what adam schiff came out and said. so it only amplifies those calls for an independent investigation, a select committee or even a committee outside of congress to really look more deeply into this. and that is something that president trump doesn t want. and so to the degree, if devin nunes thought this was going to help the president by refuting some of what s been out there, i think it s only done the opposite. he has a legitimate concern that the intelligence committee is too quick to unmask people. you speak to somebody overseas being monitored and get cat up that your name should not be put in an intelligence report and moved around. he has a legitimate concern about that. but by running to the president, he looks like a partisan, a defender of the president, not an independent chairman of an important investigation. apparently no one else has seen the actual evidence. republicans or democrats. either side. and adam schiff yesterday contradicted what the chairman said. he said that people were not unmasked but it was possible to tell who they were from the descriptions. so there s a lot that we don t know and that members of the intelligence committee don t know, but i think julie is right. the biggest point is that investigation has now been, i think, permanently clouded and does raise the question. if the senate intelligence committee is not able to credibly do this, then who will be able? the fbi. the fbi. the fbi, but if you go back to past investigations, these are not apples and apples, but you have the law enforcement investigation continue there and then the congressional investigation usually to sort of inform the american people that the criminal investigations or law enforcement investigations deal with were there crimes committed and what can we filter through the classification process and inform the american people in a democracy about what happened. if those are compromised, democrats will say let s have an independent investigation. john mccain is i think we re getting a little beyond select committee. we ll see. john mccain is a lonely voice still on that issue. we ll see how this one plays out. next, let s make a deal. the president trying as we speak to win the votes necessary to get a big health care bill through the house. but are the concessions dooming its chances over in the senate? be right back. . .just go to bed. new aveeno®. .positively radiant® overnight facial. get the benefits of a spa facial. .overnight. aveeno®. naturally beautiful results® dearthere s no other way to say this. it s over. i ve found a permanent escape from monotony. together, we are perfectly balanced, our senses awake, our hearts racing as one. i know this is sudden, but they say: if you love something. set it free. see you around, giulia knows how it feels to seees your numbers go up, despite your best efforts. but what if you could turn things around? 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members are also learning how much can we get out of him? and then there s the outside game. can he get his supporters to pick up the phone? to call these members and say, hey, be with the president. a lot of republicans who have come out this week as no have cited the fact i m getting 400 calls no for every two calls yes. they know that their constituents do not feel good about this bill and that s why it s losing support. somebody at the white house has, obviously, told the president that it s important that these members hear not just from you that they need to vote for it but also from their constituents. he did go to the hill and sort of threaten them earlier this week saying it s your political hydes on the line if this thing goes down. this is his way of demonstrating that. stranger things upside down about this is the members giving him the most trouble are the ones he theoretically has the most leverage over. freedom caucus is from districts he was strongest. it s really the people on the other side of the caucus that should be the most 23 house republicans in districts that hillary clinton carried looking at a bill that according to quinnipiac today, 17% of college whites, 18% millennials and 10% of nonwhites support. and among independents and among 50 to 64-year-old age group, the group most in the crosshairs of the insurance changes, 62% opposition. y the focus on the freedom caucus and their concerns is front and center but you have to wonder how far many of these more moderate members will go given the reaction to this bill. the president is trying to get it over hurdle nem ber one, them number two in the senate. a lot of people don t like this bill. they know it s going to change something and rip the floor out from under them. the president s own standing in that quinnipiac poll. 37% approval. 56% disapprove. among republicans, he is at 81% support among republicans. that s good, but it s down from 91% two weeks ago. so that, if you are the president, and you didn t win the popular vote and you know your coalition is to keep your base together, if you are donald trump and his political team you have to look at that number and say, whoa, we need a win. big time. more importantly, they can t afford to lose. and a lose of such monumental proportion as the key promise that swept republicans into into the mairmgity in the house starting back in the tea party, you know, fight of 2010 and then on and on and on until the white house now. obviously there were lots of other factors but the promise to do this was front and center. the problem is that you have, as we were talking about the freedom caucus who were in the white house right now, then you have ileana rossalaten in from south florida. i saw her yesterday. any chance you can change? no. the only regret she has is that she can only vote no once because she s so much opposed to this. and because she s hearing it from her constituents. isn t the complication here, obviously, losing would be devastating, something they promised for so long. but this is so winning has its own problems because in substance, this is so against the brand that he has established. a different kind of republican. going to protect programs that protect older working age adults. put out a budget and say we ll exempt medicare and social security. focus all the cuts on discretionary spending and come back with a health care bill that hammers the same people you say you are protecting and are protecting in your budget. how does that add up? this bill is like kind of more of an in the end, more of a ryan, house republican, small government than the bannon-esque redesign of the party. usually a first year president gets something db. clinton, the budget, obama got the systemus done. you have a president here with low ratings and he s selling a bill that s really unpopular among everyone so those two things make it hard. if he was popular itself, he could sell it. those two combined make this hard to happen. the republican party has changed a lot in ten years. this is the first chance they ve had to govern and have a nonideological president. an unpredictable president. stay tuned. we ll see if they have this vote today. up next, president trump speaking out to time magazine defending his own credibility by saying, if it doesn t back up by the facts, i m president. you re not. with 9 grams of protein and 26 vitamins and minerals. for the strength and energy to get back to doing. .what you love. ensure. always be you. including depreciation. and if you have more than one liberty mutual policy, you qualify for a multi-policy discount, saving you money on your car and home coverage. call for a free quote today. liberty stands with you™. liberty mutual insurance. greatest misses. he suggests you skip the fact check because, quote, i can t be doing so badly because i m president and you re not. that is one indisputable fact. he is president. you are not. as for the rest of the interview, good luck finding facts. they detailed 14 statements made by the president in the time interview that were demonstrably false. this was a conversation about truth telling. its highest or lowest award was bestowed, four pinocchios. but remember, he s the president and you re not. you have to focus on everyone here has read it. anyone at home, please go online and read it. before we talk about the substance, talk about yet another example of the president being obsessed with saturday night live. from generation or two ago, chevy chase. carry on. you know, i i m going to name check two of your colleagues. i remember a classic tom friedman, maureen dowd new york times cover story about the contentious jim baker/george h.w. bush relationship. george h.w., they quoted him as saying, if you are so smart, how come i m president. so it may be something that infects once you get into the oval office. part of the briefing on day one. absolutely. we can laugh about it and this was a remarkable interview in a lot of ways. the thing that strikes me is this idea of i m president and this enables me to say basically whatever i want to say, this lies at the heart of the credibility issue for mr. trump because his view is for all of these months on the campaign trail, he would say things that were demonstrably false and we d do fact checks and he d say them again. unlike other candidates, he d not back down from things when it was demonstrated they were false. he kept on winning primaries and then won the general election. there s a core sense he has that it means that people don t care if it s true or not. they just want to hear me own what i think and he talked about himself as an instinctual person and that s what people like about me and he has no apology for that. i m ap instinctual person but it turns out to be right. i m amazed in a week like this that donald j. trump, that article about truth telling. was he going to prove to time that he s right and they re wrong? a very strange decision. he knew he was going to be on the cover and he wanted therefore, he wanted to be in the story and say he has the record for covers, except snl lifetime magazine. like us and yours, new york times. i mean, a lot of elements of his agenda controversial right now. but the reason he s so much lower in poll opinion is mostly about personal characteristic. 60% of that quinnipiac poll said he was not honest. he s like passing his former opponent in the campaign. got to go. that s it. we re keeping an eye on the white house briefing up next hour. also waiting for those conservatives to come out of that meet with the president of the united states. that might delay the briefing a bit. hope to see you back here tomorrow. after a quick break, wolf blitzer. the pollen count, flonase allergy relief keeps your eyes and nose clear. flonase helps block 6 key inflammatory substances that cause nasal congestion and itchy, watery eyes. for relief beyond the nose. flonase. but shouldn t it be about firsts?d in zeros. and seconds? 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