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Anderson Cooper 360

concealment of the documents. it is absolute, a complete disgrace that the republicans aren't saying, enough, this is enough. and i guess -- i don't think they ever will. >> george conway, thanks very much. i want to bring in our senior legal analyst, elie honig, author of "untouchable: how powerful people get away with it." obviously the special counsel would like these two codefendants to cooperate. would they still be able to get to work out some sort of a deal -- if oliveira suddenly woke up and realized the trouble he's in, could he get a deal? >> absolutely, yes. people can cooperate at any time. from a prosecutor's point of view, the earlier the better. i've seen people cooperate not even on the eve of trial, but during trial. >> there was this 24-minute phone call between the former president and the guy who worked at mar-a-lago. >> right. >> in advance of him going down and trying to erase these tapes.

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Anderson Cooper 360

probably nominate a lifelong criminal as their standard bearer, as the presidential candidate for 2024. and they have no compunction about it. they'll say absolutely anything. they'll make any false analogy. they'll make any false comparison of comparing trump to people who actually didn't intentionally conceal documents and didn't have people try to destroy evidence about their concealment of the documents. it is absolute, a complete disgrace that the republicans aren't saying, enough, this is enough. and i guess -- i don't think they ever will. >> george conway, thanks very much. i want to bring in our senior legal analyst, elie honig, author of "untouchable: how powerful people get away with it." obviously the special counsel would like these two codefendants to cooperate. would they still be able to get to work out some sort of a deal -- if oliveira suddenly woke up and realized the trouble

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Ana Cabrera Reports

investigation during the trump administration. he says he is willing to testify publicly about the matter. let's bring in nbc news capitol hill correspondent ali vitali and kurt bardella, former house oversight spokesperson for republicans. ali fill us in on what kind of impact you think today's hearing could have on the congressional investigations. >> reporter: look, it's yet another moment for congressional republicans to bring up these things about hunter biden. we've saw them even in the last two weeks or so do hearings focused on the irs investigation of his taxes, whistle-blowers coming forward saying they felt that was handled in a political manner and he was basically getting a softball deal from the department of justice. it's momentous for the fact it will have political ramifications on his father, the current president, on his re-election bid and the way

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dismissed, not been allowed. lawyers for these republicans arguing that there was perhaps not just a miscommunication, somebody's impersonaing a member of their legal team to have this removed from the court records. that may be the curve ball which could delay what we expect to just be an hour to two-hour process here. >> lisa, on that note, what does the judge do with this new information? >> well, the judge issued an order yesterday called an order to show cause. it's essentially telling someone i need an explanation from you and fast for whatever transpired. in this case what she wants is an explanation from hunter biden's lawyers. what were your communications with the clerk of court's office? did, in fact, someone from your side call the clerk's office, represent that you are instead affiliated with house republicans and ask to have that brief taken down instead of identifying yourself as attorneys for hunter biden. >> would you expect what's in the filing, because they're trying to say we have evidence that there was some improper,

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collapse happened. all they heard was a major bang and then lots of yelling all of a sudden. so they actually feared for their lives thinking at one point that is the building they were working in behind me, was it actually collapsing? fortunately they were able to make it out, but just an a scene of mayhem earlier this morning between the debris falling on the outside, people had been inside the building, officials say that they're going to be making sure everyone in surrounding buildings are okay, finishing extinguishing the fire and carefully dismantling the crane. >> just an incredible image there when that crane collapsed and knowing how busy the streets of new york city can be, it is amazing there weren't more injuries. emilie ikeda, thank you very much for that update. up next, with our eyes still on that wilmington courthouse, how should the biden re-election campaign navigate the politically choppy seas surrounding hunter biden? just as republicans dig in. repun my store and my design business? we're exploding. but my old internet, was not letting me run the show.

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republicans are setting the narrative here and are raising all these allegations and the american people are listening to them. there is this new reuters poll i want to show you, half of americans believe hunter biden is receiving favorable treatment because he is the president's son, with republicans much more likely than democrats to believe that. it is important to note that even though half of americans believe he's getting favorable treatment, most don't think the charges themselves are politically motivated, according to the same poll. what is the reaction to the numbers? >> i think that it speaks to the point of the fact that the biden campaign and democrats are saying, look, let the investigation play out so that there isn't this appearance of anyone trying to persuade what the outcome will be. i also think the election strategy here is to talk about what the republicans are not focusing on. they are focusing on this, so they don't have to be asked about their record on abortion access, on climate, on gun control. all of these issues that are

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reported, wanted to see this type of investigation over the bidens, even though he did one and it proved nothing. >> what do you think about this impeachment probe potentially of president biden, that kevin mccarthy is discussing? >> it is literally a nothing burger, right? literally these investigations are not showing anything in regards to the bidens or in regards to an impeachable offense. they're trying to equate apples and oranges when it comes to what happened with donald trump, when he was impeached. so i think the american people are tired of these sham investigations when there are so many issues that republicans ran on to get the economy together, they ran on so many issues and they got in power and this is what they want to spend their time and taxpayer money on. it is not going to fly. >> can president biden and his team just keep deflecting is one of the questions i have. we know how much he loves his family. and hunter biden, he said, he's very proud of because he's been able to move on from his drug addiction, kind of get his life

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you know, political influence in this case. would you expect her to perhaps postpone or take any action on the merits of what they're trying to put before her? >> i wouldn't, particularly at this late date. the plea agreement between federal government and hunter biden was announced some weeks ago, and it was only as mike said, just a couple of days ago that house republicans submitted that amicus brief. i'm not aware of any other instance in which a congressional committee in a criminal matter involving a single individual submits an amicus just to have themselves be heard when it's not a matter that originated with that committee. it's not a contempt of congress charge, for example. it doesn't have to do with executive privilege. it's not a matter that they themselves were involved in litigating and yet they want to insert themselves and say you need to hear from the whistle-blowers before you sentence this person. >> dave, as we discussed here, the big criticism from some republican circles is that

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deeply unpopular with majority of american voters, some independents and republicans as well, and so if republicans continue to talk about this, we're just going to let them continue to talk about this and that puts them in a bind for when we really want to talk about the real issues when it comes to the election. >> do you think all the efforts of republicans to be the oversight of the biden administration, president biden, his family in this case, hunter biden, to investigate every allegation is helping them with the american voter or does it just look like they have a grudge with the bidens? >> it looks like they have a grudge with the bidens and they do, and to alencia's point, they have no other thing to go to. this is all they have. the economy is looking go, we don't know what will happen a year from now, but it is looking good for the democrats. things are moving in their direction. there is another thing at play we can't ignore, donald trump's influence over what the republicans choose to do. donald trump, it has been widely

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