hospital tonight. two children and two adults. this area of the ozarks being a popular tourist destination. the governor made a point today of saying that many of the victims of this tragedy were traveling here from out of state. you can see the waters of this lake calm behind me now but severe thunderstorms, again, in the forecast here in southeast missouri tonight, erin. horrible thing. kaylee, thank you. thanks to all of you for joining us. anderson starts now. good evening tonight. an exclusive interview with the attorney for alleged russian spy maria butina. the attorney joins us. that s ahead. so is the latest on the mystery surrounding what happened behind closed doors when president trump met vladimir putin. it s a mystery because the white house won t tell us or tell you. in fact, we re getting more from russia than we are from washington. we begin, though, with the president s former personal attorney and longtime fixer, michael cohen. today, we learned he had made tapes of conversations with his client and others and federal authorities have those tapes. they were seized when the fbi raided cohen including one from september of 2016 when cohen, then-candidate donald trump, were talking about paying off former playboy model karen mcdougal who as you know alleged an affair with mr. trump about ten years prior. while melania trump was pregnant and even after the birth of their son. money above and beyond an arrange nlt with the national enquirer s parent company, ami, to buy miss mcdougal s story and kill. this conversation took place two months before the election, september 2016. several weeks later, just a few days before the election, the campaign denied any knowledge of the alleged affair, or the national enquirer deal but that s getting ahead of the story. let s start at the beginning as told to me exclusively by karen mcdougal earlier this year. so tell me about your first date. our first date, i was told we were going to go to the beverly hills hotel for dinner. so he had told me that keith, his bodyguard, was going to pick me up at a certain time, and he did. and then we were driving over to the beverly hills hotel, and keith drove around to the back and he said, we have to get out here because we don t want to walk through the hotel. and at that minute, i m li, lik thinking to myself, are we going to a room? thought we were having dinner at the beverly hills hotel. in the actual restaurant. right. we did have dinner at the beverly hills hotel but in his bungalow instead. we had dinner for a few hours. we talked for a few hours. we had a great time. we were getting to know each other. we were talking about this birthd birthday. then as the night ended, we we were intimate. when you got to the beverly hills hotel, and keith said we re not going to go through the lobby, we re going to go was it to a to a room at the beverly hills hotel or a suite or it was a bungalow if h back. a bungalow. it s the one he said he always stayed at, in fact, every time i met them there, it was the same exact bungalow. and he called it the nicest bungalow they had. so i guess that s why he chose that one. but that s, yeah, that s where we went every time. well, fast forward to november 4th of 2016, the the wall street journal breaking the story of her allegations and the arrangement with the national enquirer. spokes person hope hicks telling the journal we have no knowledge of any of this. i asked karen mcdougal about it during our interview back in march. hope hicks has said catego categorically you did not have a relationship, there s no truth to this. when you heard that denial, what did you think? i think somebody s lying and i can tell you it s not me. it s a little hurtful, but at the same is time, i have to understand, like, if he were to tell hope hicks that he didn t do it, i guess i understand because he s trying to protect his family, his image, things like that. but it was definitely a little, like, wow, you re going to lie about that? okay. now, of course, it s possible that hope hicks, herself, was being lied to, but barring that, we now know that four days before the election, the campaign s chief spokesperson was lying to voters. the cohen/trump tape shows candidate trump was made aware of the national enquirer deal at least that september, two months before hope hicks said they knew nothing about it. keeping them honest, perhaps we should have known given team trump s chronic trouble with telling the truth. back in january of this year, of course, spokesman rob shaw said none of the allegations were true. here s the white house press secretary in march. look, the president has addressed these directly and made very well clear that none of these allegations are true. this case has already been won in arbitration. anything beyond that, i would refer you to the president s outside counsel. a month later, here s what the president said. mr. president, did you know about the $130,000 payment to stormy daniels? no, no. what else? why did michael cohen well, you have to ask michael cohen. michael s my an attorney and you ll have to ask michael cohen. do you know where he got the money to make that payment? i don t know. no. well, a few weeks later his other attorney rudy giuliani said the president did, in fact, pay michael cohen. when i heard cohen s retainer of $35,000, when he was doing no work for the president. i said, that s how he s retained? how he s repaying it. with a little profit and a little margin for paying taxes for michael. that s giuliani essentially coming clean on the lie his client and people around him have been telling for months. as for karen mcdougal based on what we seen so par, tfar, the has just begun. joining me now, maggie haberman who shares a byline on the breaking story today. there have been two explanations from the president s attorney, from giuliani today, since your story posted. what s his latest explanation for these conversations? and let s talk fast because the story might change again. so, we were given an initial explanation in which he indicated this was a separate payment, that this was a payment to mcdougal that was separate and apart from this arrangement mcdougal had with ami. he called back later to clarify that this was actually supposed on the tape, what they re discussing, is obtaining the rights to her story from ami. they are giuliani was strenuously denying that this should be construed as a reimbursementme reimbursement, although some i think would interpret it that way. he s adamant that it is not. i think that that has legal implications when it comes to the campaign finance piece of this. and in his telling of it, it was trump who said, let s do this properly and with a check. and it was michael cohen who either had suggested cash or didn t suggest a check in the first place. someone close to cohen has adamantly denied that version of events that suggested that the presentation in which the then-candidate was saying, let s do this all aboveboard, is not how this went down. we re obviously not going to know without hearing this. the conversation is short. it s around two minutes long. it cuts off at some point before the conversation is done. there are portions of it that are apparently inaudible in the transcript. and it will, you know, i think it will have to be heard, you know, by any of us to really understand what s being said. but what it clearly does, as you say, is undercut what the campaign told the wall street journal in october of 2016 which is that they knew nothing about this. that s obviously not true. whether hope hicks who made that statement was aware of that, i don t know. it s very possible that dronald trump didn t tell her the truth. it raises questions about the president s credibility at a time when his folks are trying to undermine michael cohen. what s amazing about giuliani s both of giuliani s explanations. the first one is this would have been they were discussing an additional payment to karen mcdougal. ami was claiming we weren t paying for her silence, we were paying her for the rights to her story, which we then didn t really believe, so we didn t publish it but we also wanted her to a columnist. if they were discussing just giving another payment to karen mcdougal, that is certainly pretty stunning. i understand why he would call back then and say actually, no, that s not what that was, even though that s what i just said it was. it was actually they were buying the rights to the story. that doesn t make much more sense. it doesn t make any sense. donald trump is not a publisher. right, trump magazine i think lasted for one or two editions and doesn t exist anymore. this would not have been a story you would have seen in it. that is also true. the distinction in the explanations i think has a legal one, as opposed to a personal one. the personal one, either way, is problematic for the president. there is no landscape in which this is a good thing for him. right. in terms of in terms of what he has said about this before. frankly, what makes the most i can t i don t know what specifically is said on the tape because we haven t heard it. what we were told by people close to both sides is this is the only and this was another point of clarification, initially we were told this is the only audio of them. then we were told this is the only one of substance meaning this is the only one that isn t, you know, call me, call me back, i ll call you. this is the only one that features a conversation of anything that is material to that search warrant on michael cohen in the first place in april. and and the your understanding is that the president had no idea that michael cohen had recorded him? no. the president did not know that he was recorded. it s still confusing to me how this recording came to be. why it s so short. and so forth. you know, we know that michael cohen had a long history of taping people, but, you know, he offer to often told people he taped himself as well as reminders of notes or to, you know, to, you know, prompt him about something side. so i think what he s doing here, he s trying to spin it as exculpato exculpatory. i can understand in a legal sense why he s saying it s exculpatory. he s saying that, look, all of this shows is that in real-time, the president didn t know that the payoff was happening and they were discussing something after the fact. it doesn t take away from the fact, i don t i m not as familiar with the new york city bar rules that john just referred to, but there is something entirely reprehensible to a client about their lawyer recording them unbeknownst to them. i mean, the wohole idea of attorney/client privilege, you re supposed to have a client be able to unburden themselves, tell you everything that they want to tell you and get your best advice. if i m doing that with a lawyer who then when he s caught in the crosshairs is turning that over, leaking it, or releasing it and commenting on it, that does some great damage to the attorney/client privilege. and as somebody i don t care how you take what your view is on trump, there s something that s just unseemly about the fact that these recordings, attorney/client conversations. jennifer, i mean, you know, the more someone always says, well, i d take a bullet for you, i d be loyal to the end to you, the less i believe them. i mean, people who generally are like that don t actually have to say that over and over and over again. and certainly, if you really are that loyal, you don t record secretly the person you re talking to. yeah, it is very strange. i think the president has a right to be angry. i mean, unfortunately, for the president, it s not a legal defense. he can t keep the recording out just because, you know, michael cohen shouldn t have done it. but that s right. and cohen is now in a position of having to decide what s he going to do? is that loyalty that would have him take a bullet enough to send him to prison for years and have him do that? that s what he s deciding now, and i think we ll know fairly soon here, as soon as charges are filed, which way he s decided to go on that. john, the circumstance certainly different between what you went through in watergate, do you see parallels in your situation and what michael cohen is thinking? there are. he has to make a decision if he s going to come forward and tell the truth. i happened to make that decision when the cover yun w-up was goi internally in the white house and broke rank. he s at that point right now. my advice to him would be to break rank and tell truth. john dean, mark geragos. coming up, why would russia s special counsel robert mueller want to from a woman who once ran a high priced new york call girl ring? known as madam manhattan. we ll ask roger stone. late e the interview you ll only see here, the attorney for the alleged russian spy joins us to talk about his client. to boo. with expedia s add-on advantage, booking a flight unlocks discounts on select hotels until the day you leave for your trip. add-on advantage. only when you book with expedia. it was always our singular focus, a distinct determination. to do whatever it takes, use every possible resource. to fight cancer. and never lose sight of the patients we re fighting for. our cancer treatment specialists share the same vision. experts from all over the world, working closely together to deliver truly personalized cancer care. specialists focused on treating cancer. using advanced technologies. and more precise treatments than before. working as hard as we can- doing all that we can- for everyone who walks through our doors. this is cancer treatment centers of america. and these are the specialists we re proud to call our own. treating cancer isn t one thing we do. it s the only thing we do. expert medicine works here. learn more at cancercenter.com cancer treatment centers of america. appointments available now. is it to carry cargo. greatness of an suv? 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i have no idea, thank you for having me back, anderson. first of all, last week s indictments made pretty clear i had no advanced notice of the alleged hacking of the dnc, received no materials from guccifer 2, the russians or no one else, passed no material on to donald trump or wikileaks or julian assange or anyone else. now, kristin davis is a good friend of mine. she s a brilliant woman who has paid her debt to society. i always thought it was unfair that she went to prison after the fall of eliot spitzer and he went to cnn to host a tv show. she has remade her life. she was not working for me during 2015. she worked for me during a portion of 2016. she went back to school to learn i.t. skills. she has helped me build some websites, but she has no knowledge whatsoever of any russian collusion, collaboration with wikileaks, or anything else improper having to do with the 2016 recollectioelection. can you see any situation where they want talk to her that doesn t have something to do with you? and on top of that, i guess has mueller s office been in contact with you or your attorney? i cannot imagine anything other than that question. she has been an associate of mine for over ten years. she s someone i have great affection for. i am, as m. jj. lee reported, t godfather to her son. she s a single parent. she s now in the cosmetology business. so would she have been handling e-mail sorry, i didn t mean to interrupt. would she have been handling e-mail correspondence, things like that, that would be of interest to mueller? at this juncture, mr. mueller has had full access to my e-m l e-mails, therefore, he s well aware that there s no evidence whatsoever, not in the o possession of kristin davis or andrew miller, another associate of mine who s resisting a subpoena from mr. mueller, or anyone else of collusion with the russians, collaboration with wikileaks or any other inappropriate act. in my view, in all honesty, this is a phishing expedition. perhaps it is the payback for the fact that i broke the story yesterday on infowars that tony podesta has been that the special counsel has asked for immunity for him in the manafort investigation. or the manafort prosecution. i know that has not yet been reported on cnn, but i reported it yesterday at infowars. i have multiple sources. fox has also reported it. i believe it to be true. perhaps this is payback for that. sam nugburg, a former trump aide, onetime close associate of yours was asked by the hollywood reporter what s next for you? he said roger is going to be indicted, he s a critical piece for mueller. obviously nunberg doesn t have inside knowledge into mueller s thinking or his operations though he did talk to mueller. do you think he s right? do you think you ll be indicted? mr. nunberg has no evidence wikileaks collaboration. sam is a very smart guy. i think he has substance abuse problems and, frankly, i think responsible members of the media should be very, very careful when they take what he says at face value. lastly, you told the new york times in regards to michael cohen, quote, donald goes out of his way to treat him like garbage. now that we know cohen was recording at least some conversations with his client and also vowed to be loyal to his family and country, do you think michael cohen is out for revenge on the president? in all honesty, i have not had a chance to follow the developments of the day. i know that michael cohen wanted very badly to be in the president s presidential campaign. he was not. hi wanted very badly to be in the president s white house. he was not. i honestly do not know what he knows and whether any of it is detrimental to the president. i m going to go by what mayor giuliani is and believe this is benign, but i have no special knowledge to the contrary. roger stone, appreciate you being on. thank you. thank you very much. it s now day four since the helsinki summit ended. senior u.s. officials including the nation s top intelligence officer are saying they don t have any idea or concrete idea of what was actually discussed between president trump and vladimir putin. russ russia says agreements were reached. the question is what agreements? 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since we re not getting answers from the white house, yes, we ve asked, we re going to have to go to moscow for answers because that s where we are now. matthew chance is there. so, matthew, we still don t have any readout from the white house, what are you hearing from russian officials? well, to be fair, anderson, we haven t had a readout, either, from the kremlin in terms of the sort of usual readout we d expect after a big, important summit like this. just general characterization of the summit as being positive. vladimir putin, the russian president, said that there had been useful agreements that had been made there. but having said that, there have been a number of sort of, you know, kind of revelations that have trickled through for various other russian officials, the russian defense ministry, for instance, has spoken about the two presidents in helsinki discussing security arrangements internationally. arms reduction treaties. deals over syria. things like that. the russian ambassador to the united states, he was briefly in moscow to attend a meeting here in the russian capital, said that there have been concrete agreements on eastern ukraine. and local media reports have spoken about how vladimir putin, again, the russian president, has spoken to ambassadors about the possibility of holding a referendum in eastern ukraine to decide the future of that sort of war-torn region. and so, you know, that s the kind of, you know, revelation that we ve had come to us via, bleakle from russian officials but no firm read yout of the kind we d expect. it s fascinating that vladimir putin made this offer about mueller s team going to mosc moscow, and then russian intelligence agents coming here and being able to sb interview u.s. fiofficials, interrogate u. officials that the president, apparently, i assume in one-on-one meetings and publicly talking about sounded like a great idea, sounded like really interesting or something to really seriously be considered, when most russians out of hand said that would never that should never happen. and now the white house has walked that back saying, well, the president doesn t think it s a good idea. it was i was in that press conference, and it was absolutely fascinating and horrifying, frankly, as we discussed earlier, to see the u.s. president in such a sort of, i suppose, submissive kind of role in that relationship. the expectation was, even amongst trump s critics, is that was that he was going to, you know, make a stand, at least, you know, kind of, you know, talk about all the areas of conflict between the united states and russia. but he didn t do that and he even submitted when it came to that suggestion that the united states basically give up several of its key figures for interrogation by russian authorities. and i think the sense here in moscow is that, you know, may have gone well on the surface, but did it go too far? is there a possibility of a backlash in the united states? the kind of backlash that we re seeing already that could place a further strain on relations between moscow and washington? interesting. so, you know, there are mixed feelings here in moscow, i think it s fair to say. matthew collapse, appreciate it. thank you very much. a lot to discuss with former cia officer steve hall. david axelrod, obviously key aide to president obama. david, was there ever a time you remembered president obama meeting one-on-one for more than two hours with somebody who is in an adversarial relationship with the united states and the public not having any information about what was said? all the meetings that he had that i know of were read out to the public. he had lengthy meetings with with people in foreign governments. he had a lengthy meeting with putin in 2009 that was when putin was prime minister. not when he was president. it was the regular practice of our administration and every administration to read these meetings out, but more importantly, anderson, it was certainly the practice of this administration to have people monitor these meetings, and to make sure that key national security advisers and cabinet members were advised after the meetings of what happened, and were instructive or involved in prepping the president before the meeting. so everything about this was unusual and troubling. steve, in the absence of the white house providing an account of what happened or the state department, it s really the russians are the only ones kind of doing the talking. has the u.s. lost the ability to control the narrative here? and how does that impact the relationship? it does, indeed, seem that the russians now control the narrative, which is obviously never a good thing. we re getting dribs and drabs of information. i was just reading something that there was the possibility that there was a discussion where the russians were pushing the president on not allowing ukraine in georgia, any plan for nato ascension. you know, that s obviously a very serious policy issue. not to mention all the issues with regard to syria and some very valid issues that need and complicated issues, such as, you know, ies and so forth. all of that stuff needs to be out there. there s no reason really for it not to be out there. experts need to take a look at it. congress needs to take a look at it and it let the russians be the ones who do this is a recipe for disaster because, of course, they will spin it. they have no there s no open and free press in are russia, so there s no advantage to the united states for that. it s another situation where i think the united states is lost out of this particular summit. david, yesterday it was announced the white house extended the invite to putin. in terms of the politics of it especially in the fall, i don t know if it s going to be before the midterm elections or after the midterm elections, if putin accepts the invitation before the midterm elections, and comes, does that create a huge problem for congressional republicans? i mean, won t they have to answer questions of whether they support the president s decision to host the man who yeah, i m sure. not only attacked america but continues to attack the country s democracy according to the intelligence services? i m sure the news of thisgred enthusiasm in the republican cloakrooms on capitol hill, anderson. look, this has been a terrible week. the republican party coalesced, at least the rank and file according to polls have largely coalesced behind the president. independent voters have been deeply troubled by this. obviously, democratic voters, and in many of these swing districts, this is an unhelpful issue. you see will hurt, for example, from texas, who s a former cia officer, has been very outspoken on this. he s in a very tough race in a swing district. there s a reason beyond his professional sense of outrage or whatever he feels about this that he s speaking out. it s because it is a political liability for him. so, you know, it s trump s habit to double down when he has a disaster, to be defiant about it. this invitation seems to be seems to be part of that pattern, but from a political standpoint, i have to believe that mitch mcconnell, paul ryan, and others are urging him to postpone any kind of meeting until after the election. steve, do you i think i don t think it was you, i think it was ralph larson on the program a couple nights ago who said that he wouldn t be surprised if the russians had a recording or transcript of what went on in that meeting one-on-one. do you think that s possible? and if so, how would how would that have happened? yeah, no, it s absolutely possible, and something we would have agreed on. the russians certainly have capability to do that, in a very private meeting like that, it s child s play for the russians to get audio and video on this. it can be used for a number of different things. i guess for the u.s., too, then. it s possible for the u.s., but then, of course, you have to ask the question, the guy who makes the decision as to whether or not there s clandestine taping going on is the most senior guy in the room. on our side, donald trump, on their side, vladimir putin. in a meeting like this, it would seem to me it would be much to the benefit of vladimir putin to clandestinely record this stuff so he could later trot things out and shape the conversation, say, actually the president said this and here s the clip. so, you know, yeah, makes all sorts of sense that they would do that. they don t have to. they could keep it to themselves. but, yeah, it s certainly possible and could be very useful for them in the future politically. i guess given that one of the reasons the president allegedly didn t want to have other people in the room is because he didn t want leaks. i guess since he doesn t trust the intelligence community, he wouldn t want the intelligence community bugging that room and having that tape for that very reason. now the russians now the russians can leak it for, you know, for him, for themselves. steve hall, david axelrod, thanks. a quick programming note, catch david axelrod and the axe files saturday night 7:00 p.m. on cnn. up next on 36 0 a woman sits in a washington jail tonight accused of being a kremlin spy and attempting influence american politicians. she s entered a plea of not guilty. coming up, i ll talk exclusively to her attorney about the charges against her. dear great-great grandfather, you made moonshine in a backwoods still. smuggled booze and dodged the law. even when they brought you in, they could never hold you down. when i built my family tree and found you, i found my sense of adventure. i set off on a new life, a million miles away. i m heidi choiniere, and this is my ancestry story. now with over 10 billion historical records, discover your story. get started for free at ancestry.com and now for the rings. 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i think that like most of the government s case is taken completely out of context. the twitter direct messages, by the way, most russian spies don t speak by twitter messages which are unencrypted. there are thousands of them between them. twitter direct message about picking up toothpaste in america, direct messages of pictures of kids and dogs and everything else. they both had an affinity for better american/russian relations. that tcertainly he wasn wasn t purpose of the trip to the u.s. here s the other thing the government says they have, they flagged several direct messages between her and the russian official, your client talks about going, quote, underground, going incognito and having to be quiet and careful. the government alleges the messages show her acting in a covert manner. to that, you say? again, maria never said she was anyone other than who she was. she always said she was a russian. she said she worked with al alexander to arrshin. friends with him, assisting limb him in his endeavors. any discussion of them underground or covert, versus conferences, or have more private dinners. it s interesting for someone w who s alleged to be a spy, from what i read from accounts of people at the university with her, she had a picture of vladimir putin on her phone and often spoke in defense of vladimir putin in class, which if she was trying to be incognito and be here as a spy, i m not sure that it seems she d have a high profile in defense of vladimir putin. i think if i was a spy for vladimir putin, i would actually go the opposite way and kind of downplay my like of vladimir putin. i actually asked her about that today. i read about it, i think cnn, the story about the phone cover. it s a picture of vladimir putin shirtless on a horse. so, you can imagine, you know, she had as a gag. she s the russian student and everyone knew she was a russian student. so she had i m saying it actually argues in your favor in this case which is, like, if she s trying to have a cover position exactly. it seems odd she would be publicly out there promoting vladimir putin positions in a classroom. she was head of a she was well known in russia before she even came here. she s been getting publicity since she s been in the u.s. for well over a year. if she were a spy, her relationship with torshin was disclosed in articles online over a year ago. so according to the government s theory, her cover was born over a year ago and she didn t leave. let me ask you, paul erickson, the man she had a relationship with, is he the u.s. person number one named in the indictment? it seems like he is. i m not going to confirm nor deny that here. okay. i think you re on the right track. can you sigh exactly what her relationship with erickson was, was she using him to gain access to the nra, to republican elite? no, i mean, i think that they have a personal romantic relationship. and they have for about five years and they attended lots of events together over time. was she using sex as a means to manipulate erickson? there was some indication there was one report she complained about being no. and i think it s very unfortunate, the government kind of dropped those allegations without any evidence the other day in open court. i vehemently asked the government for any support for those allegations about trading sex for things because i frankly find it kind of offensive just because she s an attractive woman that that s the direction people go in. i haven t seen any evidence of that and well, i think someone from the school said the men she hung out with seemed to be above 60 which sort of struck them as odd. but there were handwritten notes found in her apartment. in particular, one said how to respond to fsb offer of employment. how do you explain that? i believe those notes were found in another apartment of person one. right, in person one s handwriting. in person one s handwriting. i don t think it s up for her to explain that. but i will say this. that as the fsb is offering full employment either to subject number one, who she s in a relationship with, or to her, that s certainly again raising questions. i think that anyone who is russian has to meet with the fsb when they go back and forth and frequently is asked at the airport what they re doing in america, if they had any information for the fsb. what would happen if the fsb approached her gun rights group or not group. i think those kind of things were discussed by her. but talking about employment, if the fsb is talking about full employment, that s of concern, no? again, and if there were any evidence she was employed by the fsb, you know, but there s just there s just none. have you ever represented erickson? no. and so bottom line, in terms of what your clients want, is it a plea deal, a return to russia? something else? my client s innocent of the charges. so what she wants to be is we re going to establish that the government cannot prove the case here. the government has brought a case into the foreign registration act, which by the way, no one was ever prosecuted under. essentially it s a registration statute saying if you re going to do certain activities in the country, you have to register with the attorney general of the united states. so they re acknowledging that everything they did is legal under u.s. law. i appreciate your time. thank you. thank you. let s check in with chris and see what s coming up on cuomo prime time. it s an interesting distinction legally between being innocent and the government not being able to prove a case. usually lawyers avoid the word innocent because it means you know for a fact your client did absolutely nothing wrong. usually there s an ethical hurdle that comes with that. tonight bewe re going to be takg a look at the cohen tapes, what they mean, what they don t mean, and why they re coming out now, which, surprise, surprise, i don t think is a coincidence my friends. we re going to take people through that and talk about what vladimir putin did with his first chances to prove a friend to trump. that s the show tonight. all right. seven minutes from now. thanks very much. just ahead, a look at the cnn special report, the trump show, tv s new reality. that airs at 10:00 p.m. eastern. brian stelter is the host. he joins us with details next. ds the plan they want, without paying for things they don t. jet-setting moms can video-chat from europe. movie-obsessed teens can stream obscure cinema. it s like everyone gets their own flavor of unlimited. 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can i get can i get a connection? ohhh can i get a connection? trying find the old me welcome to kasie d.c. i m kasie hunt. we are live every sunday from washington from 7:00 to 9:00 p.m. eastern. tonight, insider rumors fly as the president prepares to make a primetime announcement about the supreme court. plus, alan dershowitz joins me live. we ll get his top tips for summering on martha s vineyard, oh, and also talk about the president s evolving legal strategy in the mueller probe. plus, some actual good news as divers emerge with some of the boys that stranded that soccer team alive. we ll get a report on the ground as monsoon rains fall and thai navy seals prepare to go in again. but first we are just over 24 hours away from president trump s primetime announcement of his pick to replace anthony kennedy on the supreme court. by the way, for those of you watching at home, abc says it is prepared to break into the bachelorette to bring you that news. president says he has narrowed his short list to 4. the finalist s were reportedly brett kavanagh, amy and kethledge. mitch mcconnell has been nudging the president in the direction of just two of those candidates. senator mcconnell reportedly told the president that kethledge and hardiman present the fewest obstacles to being confirmed. the times has since reported that the president is expressing fresh interest in hardiman as the process enters its final hours. and here s what trump had to say on his way back from new jersey just this afternoon. i m very close to making a decision. i ve not made it official yet obviously. i ve not made it final, but we re very close to making a decision. let s say it s the four people. they re excellent, everyone. you can t go wrong. i m getting very close to making a final decision. i ll probably be decided tonight or tomorrow sometime by 12:00 and we re going to all be meeting at 9:00, and we have a great country, folks. we have a great country. a great country. i d like to welcome in my panel. chief washington reporter boston herald kimberly at kinz. former press secretary for mike pence, mark lauder and deputy editorial page editor and columnist for the washington post ruth marcus. thank you all for being here on this quasi-holiday sunday night. but of course headed into a busy week here in washington. mark lauder, i want to start with you just because you have been behind the scenes at the white house as the president has made these kinds of decisions. at this point it does seem like he is getting this outside pressure from mcconnell to steer his attention towards it sounds like two people who have less of a paper trail that might be more likely to be easily confirmed in the senate. is that an argument that you ve seen sway this president? i m not sure it sways the president, but what does sway the president? the fact a name has not come out, they ve not floated anyone other than these four people i think truly supports the idea that he is still making his decision. hardiman doesn t surprise me as being a last-minute kind of rising to the top because he was most people say he was number two when justice gorsuch was selected. he s already been up there in that consideration, so wouldn t surprise me that his name would suddenly start to emerge again. kimberly atkins, one of the things that has struck me is brett kavanagh has been a favorite and the concern about him in these final hours seem to be the fact that he used to work for another republican president. right, has close ties, very close ties. very troubling. yes. that s this whole idea that he is establishment, right? he s close to the bush family, very close to the bush administration. he also played a role in this independent counsel investigation of ken starr which could be problematic for the president if he s pushing against this idea that a special counsel, if he s trying to discredit that. there is a lot of concern inside and outside of the white house. also the paper trail. as you say, the more decisions, the longer someone has been on the bench, the more decisions they have, the more things there are to pick through. with republicans having one slim majority, they don t want to take any chances at all on anyone who would seem to be qualified. you may not like what he rules, but if the qualifications don t seem to be at issue, everything is going to be on the table. that s why mitch mcconnell is frying to take the path of least resistance when it comes to confirmation. in his case it s not opinions and other documents, it s all of the documents associated with his tenure in the white house. mitch mcconnell, ruth marcus, is essentially warning according to reporting democrats could use this to push it off for months and months. it feels like republican are remarkable at eating their own. this is i agree with you. this is a little crazy. we have four people here and they range on the ideological spectrum from very conservative to super conservative. it s a very narrow range. and the hysteria of some people on the conservative end of the spectrum about not just brett kavanagh, but about the two other judges, judge hardiman and judge kethledge. to suggest that they re open border zelle oughts and crazy things like that, this is just wild. so that part is crazy. to me the majority leaders concern is real in the sense that he has a very narrow majority. he s got a majority that s even narrower than it looks on paper because senator mccain is sick. so his because he understands it, any of these four is going to be his kind of guy on the court, he wants the path of least resistance. that makes sense. but just fyi, you know what a staff secretary does. staff secretary at the white house pushes a lotte of paper the president has a lot of paper trail. the notion this is what could hold up brett kavanagh veers over into silliness. the picture that s been circulating with carl rove you ve been in this republican party, he was the genius in the republican revolution. boy genius. this is like what i would consider a primary election. it s an electorate of one, but you have the election. the various sides jockeying. at the end of the day the party will rally behind who the president introduces. it s very much like a reality show. it s fitting they cut into the bachelorette. it s really fitting for a former reality show host. i think it was amy walter who tweeted something to the effect of this is 2018 in a nutshell, this president back-to-back breaking into the bachelorette with a supreme court pick. i want to read to a piece ruth marcus wrote this week about roe v. wade. of all the potential supreme court nominees the president is considering, the one who seems most inclined to undo kennedy s work, is amy barrett. she has the shortest paper trail, her academic writings are the flashing neon sign, i ll do it. this is already a court that has proved its willingness to overrule in convenient precedence by a single vote, adding barrett would pose a clear and present danger to abortion rights. so, ruth, kind of explain where you re coming from here especially people who may see she s the only woman on the short list. why is she the biggest threat to abortion rights? it s important for us to understand that you can be a woman and a pro-choice i m sorry, you can be a woman and oppose abortion rights. and many women do. so and it would probably be politically easier for a court majority with a woman on it to overturn roe. the reason i say she s the most likely to do that has to do with two strands of her writings. one talks about the responsibility of catholic judges in death penalty cases. her hostility to abortion rights becomes clear. the second has to do with her very interesting position about the importance of what the lawyers call starry dee isis is, sticking with precedent. she has a well expressed and developed view when a justice looks at a case and concludes especially a case based on constitutional law, the justice s responsibility is to the constitution and not to the precedent. the justice, she thinks the precedent is wrong, she should overrule it. therefore, watch out, roe. interesting. kimberly atkins, one of the things interesting about the dynamics and some of the reporting last week was around this idea that perhaps a woman would be a better choice if you re trying to convince lisa murkowski, susan collins to vote for you. it seems the indication coming out of republican leaders in the senate is that actually picking amy coney barrett would be a very real risk for people like collins and murkowski. i think that s right for all the reasons ruth laid out. the paper trail, and somebody who expressed hostility toward keeping roe v. wade as the law of the land. that would be the nonstarter for her. i don t know if this quite raises to the level of hostility but it sure doesn t look good. it looks like she s headed in that direction. she would have the most trouble with senators murkowski and collins in this case. that s why i think for a while it looked like it was between kethledge and kavanagh until mcconnell sort of made this last weekend overture. republicans like, he s from pennsylvania, used to drive a taxi, has a great story. now he s back in the mix as somebody who the president can really get behind and so could possibly we should also mention his secret weapon, judge hardiman s secret weapon which is the president s sister. on the third circuit court of appeals and recommended him to the president and one thing we know about president trump is he kind of relies on family. i would point out, though, that senators collins and murkowski as well as senator mccain and three democrats voted for judge barrett when she was confirmed just last october. fair enough. mark, who do you think has the tougher job here, mitch mcconnell in trying to keep senators collins and murkowski in the fold, or chuck schumer, trying to hold the line with joe manchin, joe donley, heidi high camp? chuck schumer has a much more difficult position. many of those red state democrats, if they vote for the president s nominee, whomever that nominee is, they re going to lose their base. they re going to lose their donors. a lot of their activists who knock on doors, make phone calls. if they oppose it, they re going to lose the voters they need to attract. in trump states, to winn win election. there was a good analysis on the front page of the times. they may have to be making a decision between do we hold the senate now in favor at the expense of a court for 40 years? a nominee by a republican president is not going to be fail to win approval from a republican senate unless republican senators peel off. so, i totally agree with mark. mitch mcconnell has a tough hand because of his slim majority, but he s got a way better hand than chuck schumer does. if i were chuck schumer, i would want to watch and see if you can lose a republican senator, get a republican senator to peel off, then yes, put pressure on your endangered incumbents. if it s not going to be a winning battle at any event, why would you risk their seats? that s also crazy. we re losing a lot. we have heard that a lot tonight. mark, final question before we go. what is your sense of what conservatives want the court to look like after this particular choice has gone through? you referred to it as a primary. what are the primary voters looking for here? i think any of the four, they will be happy with. even though they might have some, you know, leanings one way or the other in the primary process, so to speak. they want someone who is going to uphold the constitution, who believes the constitution. and is that about abortion at the end of the day? i don t think it is about abortion. i think it s about being true to the constitution and the law in the way it s written, not how it can be shaped into something else. that s still code for the abortion fight. i don t know. it s not just about abortion, though. you look at the rulings from last week in the last two weeks in terms of free speech and the government cannot force you to say things that you do not believe in or force you to join a group and pay to join a group that you don t believe in. those are basic fundamental rights issues that were decided by a conservative majority in favor of the individual, not bhat government was trying to do. all right. we have a lot more to talk about. congressman mike quigley joins me as the president s legal strategy evolves, and he prepares to meet with vladimir putin. and we re going to report from bill neely as divers prepare to go back inside treacherous caves in thailand to rescue the remaining boys trapped inside. and scott pruitt becomes the latest high-profile member of the trump administration to take a hike. as we go to break, a brief list of some of the others. i want to give special thanks to administrator scott pruitt. d.a. secretary david shulkin. h.r. mcmaster. i wish rex tillerson well. gary cohn, the president of goldman sachs. director comey. the greatest businessman in the world, carl icahn. amoroso is a nice person. general mike flynn. you know sean spicer. i like mr. bennett. reince is really a star. secretary price is behind me. we re really at a point where we re getting close to having the cabinet and other things that i want. olay ultra moisture body wash gives skin the moisture it needs and keeps it there longer with lock-in moisture technology skin is petal smooth after all, a cleanser s just a cleanser unless it s olay. after a scratch so small rocket you could fix it with a pen. how about using that pen to sign up for new insurance instead? for drivers with accident forgiveness, liberty mutual won t raise their rates because of their first accident. liberty. liberty. liberty. liberty. extreme disgusting bias which totally corrupts the process? that was president trump s personal attorney rudy giuliani giving us a preview of his legal team s new strategy for handling the mueller investigation. at least publicly. those comments came after the new york times reported the president s lawyers are telling mueller s team they need to prove they have evidence that the president committed a crime before he will agree to sit down for an interview. joining me now, member of the house intelligence committee democratic congressman mike quigley of illinois. congressman, it s good to see you. let s start with what rudy giuliani has been saying this morning across these sunday shows. he is essentially alleging corruption and bias in the people around robert mueller, although he would not go so far as to tell my colleague chuck todd that mueller himself is corrupt. what is your assessment of what these fbi officials did, peter strzok, who is set to testify this week not in front of one of your committees but up on capitol hill, who has sent these text messages indicating that he was had negative feelings towards the president? and that has led to this claim of bias. yeah, look, the fbi, the cia, the intel community, the justice department the people who work there don t live in a vacuum. they have their own personal views and they re entitled to them. but there is no indication that any of this their personal views, whether it be the clinton investigation or the trump investigation or any other before it, had their views impact how they did their jobs. but rudy is just fishing. obviously what he s talking about here, some new legal theory. and i practice criminal law ten years. i can t imagine this one. that the justice department has to prove criminal violations of the law before the president is allowed to be subpoenaed. he could be subpoenaed at any moment. supreme court has ruled on sefr several occasions, two pretty landmark cases involving nixon and clinton that the president is not above the law and they have to respond to, in one case, legally bound subpoenas. so, look, it s the same legal team that said that he could virtually use pardons to stop a criminal investigation, that they could decide which investigations go forward, those of their friends and which ones they don t against their enemies. that the justice department has to give them information, discovery, before a trial date. this is all total fabrications of a legal team i think that s a legal freaked out by concerns among many about mr. cohen flipping. i want to ask you as well about devin nunes, the republican chairman of the intelligence committee. he has been sending letters to congressman gowdy and goodlatte on the judiciary committee asking them to interview a long list of people about the trump dossier. were democrats on the intelligence committee aware that those requests were going to be made? and what s he up to? we haven t had notification from mr. nunes about anything he s going to do for months now. he has under taken rogue investigations. he s working with the white house to prepare his own memo. he began the investigation with the midnight ride to the white house which was very clear that he was getting information, then turn ing it back to the white house to show some other conspiracy. he also stopped subpoenas on documents and people of critical interest. he s basically worked hand in glove with the white house to thwart the investigation, so what he s doing now, which is unilateral, rogue, against the rules of the committee and the house, is absolutely nothing new. congressman, do you or other democrats on your committee have any questions about how the fbi has conducted itself? or if you take back the house, will you shutdown all of these lines of inquiry? look, we re the oversight committee. we should always be looking at how the intel community operates. but what we ve seen so far is desperate attempts by the republicans in the house trying to protect the president politically and legally. nothing in all the wild allegations they ve made for over a year and a half now has been found to be true. so we can only expect this to continue. as, again, i think this investigation would you urge democrats to shutdown these lines of inquiry if they take back control of the committee in look, if there is a reasonable line of inquiry, we ll follow-up on it. what is more important than all that, the most important investigation of our lifetime, i would say more important than watergate, especially to our democratic process, was shutdown unilaterally by the republicans on this committee. that would reopen. i want to show you something that the president had to say about his upcoming meeting with vladimir putin and then get your take. let s take a look. i m meeting with president putin next week, and getting along let me tell you, getting along with russia and getting along with china and getting along with other countries is a good thing. it s not a bad thing. it s a good thing. they re going, will president trump be prepared, you know, president putin is kgb and this and that. you know what? putin s fine. he s fine. we re all fine. we re people. will i be prepared? totally prepared. i ve been preparing for this stuff my whole life. they don t say that. they don t say that. congressman, do you agree that putin is fine? yeah, he s a ball of fun. he s a dangerous man. he isn t a kgb person. he was kgb. he kills journalists. he is engaged in a war with one of our allies in ukraine. he annexed crimea and our president who is not prepared for this has opened up the possibility of recognizing the annexation of crimea and bringing russia back into the it would be the g-8. so he s talking about attacking our allies and going along with one of our great adversaries. it s okay to talk with him. it s important to engage. but what he s doing now is turning over the world order. the liberal democratic world order that began right after the second world war. that world order is under attack by its primary architect, the united states of america. and at the same time embracing president putin, refusing to acknowledge what the russians did to the democratic process which the entire intel community agrees to, and a bipartisan senate committee agrees to. so he believes putin more than his own intel community and our allies. congressman mike quigley, thanks so much for your time today. really appreciate it. thank you, sure. ruth marcus, i want to pick back up on what we were talking a little about the house intelligence committee, the inquiries from devin nunes. if democrats do get a chance to run go back to running these committees, how does that sort of unwind? it seems to me they would shutdown most of the nunes inquiries, most likely, but there is potentially quite a few threads for them to pickup going forward. yes, and we just had this very interesting, very compelling, very telling report from the senate intelligence committee. but there are additional things to look at, and i think for me, taking back the house is going to be would be significant if it happened, not just for the russia inquiry, but for all of the other i would be worried if i were the white house and republicans about all of the other strands of inquiry that could go on. imagine what an actual functioning house that was going to be willing to engage in oversight could have done with the late lamented scott pruitt. i was just going to say there was reporting in the new york times today, mark lauder, before we go, officials said there was no way we d be prepared to fight against those investigations. let s remember when the democrats took control during president george w. bush s presidency, they established a war room just to deal with the endless string of inquiries and subpoenas and investigations that were coming then. do you think your former colleagues were ready for it? it would multiply 100 times over now. in these circumstances, i don t think they have to be prepared for it today. i think as we get closer to that time, which i don t think will happen, but they will there is time to prepare. all right. ruth marcus, thank you so much for your time tonight. really appreciate it, all of your insights. as we go to break, if the president says a certain yiddish word on tv, journalists can, too. the way he talked about us and nato, for example, am i allowed to say this on msnbc? that we re just a bunch of schmucks. they want to protect against russia yet they pay billions of dollars to russia and we re the schmucks paying for the whole theg. they enjoy hearing him say we ve been treated like schmucks and we re not going to take it any more. very nice. very nice. whoooo. looking for a hotel that fits. .your budget? tripadvisor now searches over. .200 sites to find you the. .hotel you want at the lowest price. grazi, gino! find a price that fits. tripadvisor. i was on the fence about changing from a manual to an electric toothbrush. but my hygienist said going electric could lead to way cleaner teeth. she said, get the one inspired by dentists, with a round brush head. go pro with oral-b. oral-b s gentle rounded brush head removes more plaque along the gum line. for cleaner teeth and healthier gums. and unlike sonicare, oral-b is the first electric toothbrush brand accepted by the ada for its effectiveness and safety. what an amazing clean! i ll only use an oral-b! oral-b. brush like a pro. who s already won three cars, two motorcycles, a boat, and an r.v. i would not want to pay that insurance bill. 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reporter: yeah, we think the pattern will be much as it was on day one. so the boys will come out two by two. we understand that the strongest boys were chosen to come out first. two were 14-year-olds, one 13-year-old, and one 16-year-old. but we don t know who will be chosen next. but 90 divers were there on day one, so we expect the same number to be there today. the operation will start in a few hours time, although it may take as many as ten hours for the first boys to come out. and again, the same pattern will come. they will be met with gurneys, taken to a hospital, and med evac d to a hospital which is about a 15, 20-minute flight from here. so, eight boys have spent the night with their coach, done half a mile underneath me here. it must be a difficult ordeal for them. many of them are weak. it said that the coach may be the weakest of all. and, of course, for the parents, terrible ordeal. one mother said she didn t know her son was being evacuated until she read about it on social media. so, everyone here has their fingers crossed. the four boys who came out apparently with stood the ordeal extremely well according to one diver who spoke to nbc news. the divers themselves a bit apprehensive. and, above all, they do not want to be complacent. day one went well. they need day two, and maybe day three to go just as well. kasie? bill neely, thanks so much for your reporting and our thoughts continue to be with those eight boys and their coach still trapped in that cave. when we continue on case deeg kasie d.c., we ll talk about the mounting war on lobsters and newspapers. up 30%. if it holds, will likely lead to pay cuts, according to one industry advocacy group. plus david farenthold joins us with his reporting as mar-a-lago looks abroad to hire dozens of workers. in 5th grade. we got married after college. and had twin boys. but then one night, a truck didn t stop. but thanks to our forester, neither did our story. and that s why we ll always drive a subaru. and now for the rings. ( ) i m a four-year-old ring bearer with a bad habit of swallowing stuff. still won t eat my broccoli, though. and if you don t have the right overage, you could be paying for that pricey love band yourself. so get an allstate agent, and be better protected from mayhem. like me. can a ring bearer get a snack around here? so, the thing about a trade war is that one side fires a shot, then the other side fires back. in the latest round, china has responded to the white house with $25 million in tariffs and while recent polling shows international trade at the top of just a few people s minds, there s growing evidence that it is changing opinions of some voters. joining me on set is pulitzer prize oner david favorite hold and jo ling kent who covers business and technology. joe, i want to start with you. can you just help us understand? we see these headlines, x million or x billion in tariffs on these goods. at what point are people really going to start to feel this in their daily lives? we re going to see it soon. what we ll see is how this will actually impact jobs throughout the country. our team has been reporting on how layoffs have begun to happen even throughout the midwest ranging from textiles like nails to other kinds of factory goods and agriculture as well. so, the issue here is not just the back and forth between the u.s. and china. this is really about the american consumer. when does the cost get passed down, because these companies are going to be taking a big hit. soybean farmers, folks who make cheese, all kinds of different manufacturing industries and almost every single type of food category that you can think of at the grocery store is slated t to be impacted because of this back and forth between beijing and washington, d.c. we re expecting to see probably 170,000 jobs according to one economist eliminated within the year. and then if president trump goes forward and continues to implement more trade changes and tariffs on other countries including those in europe, mexico and canada as he has forecasted, you may see us enter a recession territory and that would be about 700,000 jobs, american jobs, on the line here. for a president who is looking to create american jobs, bring them back and highlight manufacturing, a lot of workers are finding themselves between a rock and a hard place here, kasie. yeah, some reporters have been looking at anecdotal impacts in key midterm races. they interviewed a hog farmer. they said tosh, a third generation farmer who always votes republican said he s voting for black burn s democratic republican in part because trump s trade wars are hurting his family business. a sizeable one with some 400 employees and 30,000 pigs. the cost of steel needed for new barnes is up, he said, and the expanding pork market stands to suffer under new tariffs. so, kimberly atkins, at what points and mark lauder, i m going to give you a chance to answer this question, too, in a second. at what point do trump voters start blaming the president? for things going on in their lives? i think there is going to be a tipping point. his fans were in favor of his strong message the u.s. is in unfair trade deals, we need to fix them, we need to get tough with countries like china. but in the actual starting of a trade war, maybe not this initial salvo may not be felt across the country. but if it escalates and they do more and more and he said he s willing to go up to $500 billion in tariffs on china, that s really going to have an impact on farmers, on consumers, on businesses. if people start feeling it in their pocketbook, they re going to realize this perhaps was not the best way to sort of rectify any unfairness he sought in the trade war. i m not sure it will happen in the mid terms, but he has to worry about 2020. mark lauder, are voters these are the states that gave president trump the presidency. and by this much, very slim number of voters who handed him the electoral college victory. is he completely teflon with them or is there aeries?! i think they re giving him a certain benefit of the doubt. there was a stud that i just came out early this week, i believe from investors business daily, which showed consumer and economic confidence the highest in rural areas of america since the turn of the century. the highest in the midwest since 2002. and this was just recently done. so it includes the most recent back and forth on trade. i think they are giving him a fair shake because they know that we have been involved in these trade unfair trade practices for decades. presidents of both parties have talked about needing to do something about it and they see that this is the president that they elected who said, i would do it, and he s actually doing it. there are bumps in the road, sure. and i think there will be a certain amount of forgiveness to allow this i won t put a time line on it, but i think there is a certain amount of time they are going to say you re doing what you told us you would do. now let s see it work. and we ll see how that plays out. david farenthold, you ve done reporting on the president s own businesses in china. is there any interplay in what is going on in this war and his bottom line? the connection between trump s business and china are these two overseas developments. one in dubai and one in indonesia where trump has a licensed deal, he s being paid to operate a golf course, put his name on a business that is being built. and the same developments have chinese state companies helping to build them. trump and the chinese businesses aren t doing business directly, but he benefits from the infrastructure and the developments they are building. okay. so there is not i don t think the trade war will have a direct impact on those relationships, but this is certainly a case where the government of china controls businesses that could help donald trump down the road. and interesting jo, go ahead. very good point he just made. you have to think about these multinational companies that are really driving the american economy like apple and these big technology companies that manufacture so many of their goods in china. they also sell to the chinese market. in some cases it s their second biggest or maybe their biggest market out there. how is it going to impact those ceos, those shareholders, so many of those stocks, of course, are in your 401 k, and you have ceos like apple, tim cook going to the white house trying to make the case here to ask the president to tread very carefully because this is a complicated issue that could really have a major economic impact not just on what you re buying and spending, but your investments. that s a really great point. at a time the u.s. economy is humming, the latest round of chinese tariffs is expected to cool demand from everything from american cars to crustaceans. vaughn hillyard reports from maine. see the nice beautiful shiny shell? reporter: off the coast of maine, lobster season is at its summer peak. i ve been lobstering since i was 13 and i m 63. reporter: he s one of 12,000 mainers in an industry that accounts for the state s economy. in a global trade war, china fired back with a 25% tariff on the lobster so many people rely on. we d like to see prices go up, not down. we ll see how it affects us. reporter: it had been a booming open market for the fishermen. the rising tide had exploded in recent years. lifting all boats with it. how many lobsters are you sending out a day? we probably send out 15 to 20,000 lobsters, almost every day. reporter: and how much of that is going overseas? overseas, over 60% of our b lobsters. reporter: how much to china? china alone is 20%. reporter: tom adams is a major lobster distributor. he exports them from hundreds of local fisherman and co-ops to overseas markets. he invested $1.5 million in the expansion not foreseeing what was to come. how long can you afford to be patient in this? we can t afford to be patient at all. reporter: it s the same story in our down the road in portland where mark s company had just entered the chinese market place. i just spent three months with the potential new buyer in shanghai that wanted 40,000 pounds a week. and then when the tariff scare came, now it s radio silence. reporter: then there are the people who haul the traps day in and day out, like cyrus sleeper. he s fished these waters since age of 9 and now brings in 50,000 pounds of lobster every year. are you frustrated? yes, yes. frustrated. it seems like they had just gotten rolling and had been building good relationships in china to put a damper on that at this point is very frustrating. reporter: some here look to the president to be a boon for the economy. i was hopeful. reporter: you were hopeful for the trump administration when it started? yes, absolutely. reporter: where is that now? i m concerned. i m concerned. some of the decisions and the way those decisions are being made aren t considering the ripple effect. reporter: now there is worry that china will look elsewhere for its lobster, like canada just to the north. and the people here in maine are stuck quickly searching elsewhere to make up those millions of dollars. everything that i have, my car, house, everything that i own is from lobstering. that was our vaughn hillyard reporting a very difficult hardship assignment. summer eating lobster. i want to turn to david farenthold s post, mar-a-lago looking to hire 61 foreign workers during the season. still about american businesses facing interesting challenges under president trump. we know that there are some other places that are struggling to get the foreign workers they need. we had covered the crab industry in maryland, for example. they can t get the visas they need. first of all, do we think the president is going to get preferential treatment for these? these are not sure bets if you apply for the visas. they said the president won t get preferential treatment. he s lucky if they break it up by summer and winter. the 33,000 put out for summer needed for crab picking, landscaping, golf courses, he s applying for winter when people fly down to new york. people go to florida in the winter. there is not much workers in the winter. he got yeah, how lucky, exac. he may be better off anyway because of the season. this is something where he has tried to limit these visas dramatically, right? there s a broader effort by the trump administration to try to restrict means of illegal immigration on the logic that temporary workers, low scale immigrants drive down wages for american workers, that they make it possible for employers to pay less to give less benefits. and so doing this, this is exactly the kind of thing people like tom cotton said we shouldn t do. why don t you pay them more and give benefits for people here in america looking for a job. they re not rocket science jobs. they re cooks and waiters. a lot of people in florida should have those qualifications. i think this is in your story, david, is that mar-a-lago has to prove to the department of labor that it has sought to advertise and hire americans before these visas could be proved. and it s also not usual and other seasonal clubs in the area also do the same thing. that s right. palm beach has a lot of seasonal work. trump s club has always done what s legally required to show they re trying to recruit american workers, but it s less than what you think. i m sure every people have fax machines in this day and age. thank you all for your time tonight. we really appreciate it. kasie d.c. coming up right after this. get your groove on with one a day 50+. as stopping increases your risk of having a stroke. eliquis can cause serious and in rare cases fatal bleeding. don t take eliquis if you have an artificial heart valve or abnormal bleeding. while taking eliquis, you may bruise more easily and it may take longer than usual for any bleeding to stop. seek immediate medical care for sudden signs of bleeding, like unusual bruising. eliquis may increase your bleeding risk if you take certain medicines. tell your doctor about all planned medical or dental procedures. eliquis, the number one cardiologist-prescribed blood thinner. ask your doctor if eliquis is what s next for you. inthe full value oft replace your new car?. you d be better off throwing your money right into the harbor. i m gonna regret that. with liberty mutual new car replacement, we ll replace the full value of your car. liberty. liberty. liberty. liberty. 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he refused, threatened to resign and that s when president trump backed down ultimately deciding not to fire the special counsel. but again, we re seeing this new point of frustration from president trump with these new attacks. again, the most direct at robert mueller. the backdrop is important to point out. a few days ago, the president s former attorney michael cohen spoke to a number of sources who then told cnn that he was ready to testify to the special counsel that president trump approved that june 2016 meeting between russian nationals and his son donald trump jr. and other members of his campaign. so the president responding to that coverage. he also tweeted angrily at the media today we should point out. yes, he did. he tweeted all over the place. boris sanchez in new jersey where the president just head back to the white house. thank you. a lot to discuss on this sunday evening. joining us now is cnn s senior political analyst and senior editor for the laatlantic and washington post columnist josh rogan. clearly something set the president off. what do you think it is? . i think the reporting that he noted is the logical precipitating cause here. look, this is part of a continuing effort to influence in effect the jury pool which will be congressional republicans. if bob mueller comes back with any recommendation that the president that the house needs to consider impeachment on the various areas he is vugting this is about creating more pressure on republicans to avoid that. i would point out this these attacks are a perfect microcosm for the trump presidency. they are having an influence among republican voters. but among the general public more broadly, it is consolidating uncertainty and moving people away. i mean there is polling last week, 63% of the country say they didn t trust the intelligence services over donald trump about the impact of russian interference and the election by 20 points, a 20 point margin. they say the fbi is not biassed against him and another poll, 60% said he usually does not tell the truth. it s not like this behavior is cost free. for him or for the republicans in congress who have chosen to defend it. josh mueller said to be scrutinizing trump s tweets as part of the obstruction of justice investigation. so why launch the tweets when you know he s watching? i think it s an effort to distract from what the news media and a lot of other people are focusing on, namely, the fact that michael cohen s personal lawyer is releasing all sorts of new information, new tapes, new recordings, new accusations and all of these not only feed into the muller investigation but are super damaging politically and publicly for the president. for the president s personal lawyer to accuse him of knowing about the meeting at trump tower before and approving it before his son and campaign manager and son-in-law met with russians connected to the russian government that, is a shocking accusation. although michael cohen has little credibility and rudy giuliani has little credibility and the president has little credibility, the fastball this is the topic of discussion along with michael cohen s playing of the tape shows that president trump probably knew about pay yofrz to his alleged mistress, playboy model. this is all exactly what the president doesn t want to focus on. so by putting out all of the tweets, he is trying to shift the conversation. he succeeding in that. ahead of the brand new news cycle, he is sending out marching orders to the allies in congress and in the media, don t look over here, look over here. don t talk about michael cohen and karen mcdougal, talk about angry democrats and the witchunt and all of this stuff. you know, again, it s pretty standard practice for the president. i don t think it s going to work in terms of saving him from the actual consequences of these revelations. but it certainly works in changing the conversation. that s him using his bully pulpit which he uses effectively. we were used to this president going after so-called enemies, going after competitors. he s not afraid to call people out by name, sloppy steve, right? i mean there s crooked hillary. and, yet, he hasn t been attacking michael cohen by name today. instead, he s going after mueller. why do you think that is? well, michael cohen can do a lot of damage to donald trump. you know, he has been he has been right in the middle of everything for many years. there s a lot that he knows. i m sure it is a very unnerving situation for the president to have michael cohen, you know, signalling that he wants to cooperate with investigators, bringing on lanny davis late of the clinton defense to be, you know, his lawyer and kind of public relations consultant. all of that are kind of ominous, you know, directions for the president. i would point out that there is kind of a broader pattern here which is, you know, twofold. one, the president needs conflict. that is what he believes is the essence of his political strength. there is always a fight. you know, whether a couple days ago it was revoking security clearances for former officials. it could be nfl players. it could be pop culture figures. he believers he needs to show his base that he is fighting all of the time, that he is breaking the glass on their behalf. as i said, there is a cost to that. a cost in exhaustion among many swing voters, particularly white collar voters and that is where the republican risk is the greatest. we have the special election coming up in ohio in a couple weeks. another district that should be safely republican but because of the revolt in the suburbs that they are facing, it is now a nail biter for the gop and that is where the vulnerability is concentrated in november and, again, this kind of behavior by the republican about it president and the decision by house republicans not only to defend it but to abet it in many cases by, you know, working against the investigation, that is the core that magnifies their risk in the places their most vulnerable. we re looking at images of air force one as the president gets on the plane and comes back from his weekend at his golf resort in new jersey. so we ll just keep this up. if he comes in and addresses the immediate yashgs of course, we ll be listening in. in the meantime, josh, one of the tweets today, he is threatening to shut down the government unless democrats don t agree to build a border wall. he said all along, mefrm he could is going to pay for that wall. this is one 00 days out from the mid terms. does this do more to help or hurt republicans in november? he s putting his republican allies in congress in an impossible position because, of course, they don t have the leverage to get democrats to agree to a border wall funding. if they dshgs they would have used it already in these past 18 months. and also they know something that he may or may not acknowledge which is that if he shuts down the government, that s bad for them. he s not up for election. but they are. and so they really can t afford to take the risk of having a big government shutdown even over the border wall, even if it s popular before this midterm. so, you know, again, sort of like, you know, let s throw out a bunch of empty threats. let s put everybody that s on our side into a terrible political bind. and then, you know, ranlt at an rave until something shakes out. it doesn t seem to be working. we don t have the border wall funding. he s not making progress on it. it s not clear to me why this threat is different from that any of the other 100 times that he made it. but again, it s he thinks it s a good issue politically for him. there is no cost to him personally for making the threats. so he thinks why not just do it? and see what happens. who knows, it may work. ron, i want to get your take we don t know what the reason was for the end of that tape. joining us now to discuss what may have happened there, ed primo, one of the nation s audio forensic experts with 30 plus years of experience. ed, great to have you with us. earlier this week you confirmed to my colleague that the tape was in fact edited. and i want to dig into that issue specifically. since that seems to be a point of contention right now. what does your analysis tell you about what was modified and when it happened? well, the recording was created using the voice memo app on an iphone 5. i can see the operating system in the data. and in the voice memo application, there is a feature or a function called trim. so i believe the recording was edited in the voice memo app. but the biggest problem that we have here, it s a misrepresentation of the events as they occurred. when i testified in court previously, and i ve testified dozens of times, the recordings that are presented, if they re edited, then the trier of fact, judge and jury, need to be made aware of the fact that it was shortened. in this particular case, we have a recording that ends with a butt edit. it is very visible and in any program that you can view the sounds spectrum and you can notice that the ending has some a couple different words on it. why that is like that, i don t know. but it is not an authentic recording and it certainly is not the original. let s listen to that audio again this time sloweded down. slowed down. when it comes time for the financing which will be listen, what financing? i ll have to pay. no. no. no. i got no. no. a check. so you have said that the data tells you this recording was modified four seconds after it was created. just four seconds later. i m trying to make sense of that. can you specify what kind of modification? well, there was an edit, obviously. i re-created the edit today by making a recording on an iphone 5 that had an operating system more recent. it was actually 10.2. the original recording that i could see in the data was created on an iphone five with the operating system 9.3. so i didn t do any research to learn how many updates away that was from where this recording was created. but what is important here is that it was created in a voice memo app that is capable of editing. it has a trim feature in it. so could an incoming call or running out of battery have been the reason for that abrupt ending? or did somebody have to physically do it themselves? i believe it was actually edited. somebody actually ended the recording there using the trim function and voice memo app. that is my theory at this point. and that s the science that i ve observed up to this point. is there evidence that something was actually deleted? no. not anything that i could see. other than knowing that it was edited and the conversation appears to continue. because it was edited right after the ch in check or if that is the word check. and let me just confirm with you, too. there is not evidence that anything before that moment had been edited? not that i ve seen, no. okay. ed primo, thank you for giving us your expertise, helping us better understand what we re dealing with when it come to this piece of potential evident. we appreciate it. you re welcome. coming up, let s head out west. there is a deadly inferno right now. a wind driven blaze leveling neighborhoods, amid triple digit temperatures. we ll take you live to california. plus, unraveling the mystery of amelia earhart. hear from the researcher who says the famed aviator s final pleas for help were broadcast around the world. and later, meet the top target for a dangerous cartel. a 6-year-old german shepard who sniffs out their drugs. and now has a big bounty on her head. what will you discover with a lens made by essilor? 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it s interesting. russia s military budget decreased in 2017 for the first time in 20 years. we ve seen putin rely on some unconventional assets that are cheaper like cyber attacks and information warfare. and more recently, he s been directly messaging president trump through the media. it s cheap and it s easy. we have this whole second summit. it wasn t negotiated behind closed doors. trump issued an invitation publicly. putin responded publicly. it really looked like president trump was responsive to media criticism and putin s direction rather than u.s. national security interests. and on friday, putin complimented and threatened president trump in the same press conference. he complimented his track record on keeping campaign promises to butter him up. and then threatened president trump and u.s. economic growth by linking sanctions against russia to the dollar. i think president putin is very aware that the way to get president trump s attention is through direct public messaging. now you say that the way this all played out is not normal. let s talk about north korea. we also had developments there this other weekend with the news buried that remains of what we believe to be u.s. war victims were given back to the u.s. officials. do you believe this is a sign that north korea is indeed following through on the promises? i don t think we ve seen any signs that north korea actually denuclearizing. they testified publicly last week that they continue to produce material. they re continuing to make nuclear weapons. they may have kept two of the promises from singapore. they re dismantling a second test site not because they re denuclearizing built because they don t have to test anymore. as you mentioned, they may have rurn returned 55 sets of remains, again keeping a promise. but none of this is related to actual denuclearization. the fear is they re going to ask f for something in rufrnlt china lifted sanctions on north korea. we could see them moving in that direction. north korea got a lot of its technology, nuclear technology from pakistan. pakistan getting ready to swear in a new prime minister. what will he mean for u.s. national security? well, khan is compared to president trump in the past few weeks because of his celebrity past and nationalist and pop lift platforms. but i think the bilateral relationship when khan takes the premiership is going to be under pressure. khan criticize the u.s. drone strikes. he kricriticized our war in afghanistan. so we could see us moving further apart. but khan may move closer to our enemies and rivals. he s been accused of being sympathetic to the taliban and wants a closer relationship with china who is pouring billions of dollars into pakistan. so china s spending more. we decreased our security assistance. and so we may lose more leverage. all right. thank you so much, sam. always good to see you: coming up, it is one of the greatest unsolved mysteries in history. now a clue on what may have happened to amelia earhart during that doomed flight around the world. hear from the researcher who says he has the proof to close this case for good. you re live in the cnn newsroom. still nervous about finding a new apartment? 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that s right. that s right. we just released a new study of the radio distress calls that were heard for at least five nights. widely believed at the time, you look at the headlines and it s we hear her calls. there are official word is that they re genuine. that s why the u.s. navy sent a battleship from hawaii 2,000 miles to this island to see if there was an airplane there sending the signals. because the airplane could only send radio signals if it was not only on land but on its wheels and able to operate the right hand engine, the right hand engine with the generator to recharge the battery. so she didn t crash anywhere. she made a safe landing on the reef that surrounds this island. dries at low tide. smooth as a runway. but the tide comes in and the tide goes out. and by the time the navy got there, rising tides and surf washed the airplane into the ocean so when the u.s. navy planes through over the island, they didn t see an airplane. therefore all the signals you some have somehow been bogus and they spent the rest of the search looking in the open ocean for floating wreckage or life raft and found nothing an concluding she crashed at sea. we went back and studies all those radio distress calls and find that there is no way they could have been hoaxes or misunderstandings. they came from that island. directional bearings, cross at that island. it is rock solid. how long did it take you to analysis all of this? well, let s see. first we had to assemble all the original source information from the original radio logs. then when he to correct them for chronology, get all the time zones corrected and some of the time zones change over the years. and then you have to analyze the call themselves whether frequency and the probability that they could be heard. it s sophisticated computerized stuff. and then you say what story is this telling us? which reported messages can be genuine and which are credible beyond a reasonable doubt? and of the 120 reported alleged signals that were heard, we find that 57 of them are credible and among them there are about two dozen that are credible beyond a reasonable doubt. they had to be coming from that island. wow. incredible the research that you ve done and the time that you spent is just fascinating, rick. thank you for sharing it with us. and it hasn t been me. it s the organization that i represent. tiger, the international group for historic aircraft recovery. they re the twhaunz dones that work. you re very humble. they appreciate that shoutout, rick. you represent them well. coming up, a drug sniffing pooch so good at her job she is now in serious danger. meet this german shepard with a $70,000 bounty on her head because a colombian cartel wants her gone. tech: at safelite autoglass, we really pride ourselves on making it easy for you to get your windshield fixed. teacher: let s turn in your science papers. tech vo: this teacher always puts her students first. student: i did mine on volcanoes. teacher: you did?! oh, i can t wait to read it. tech vo: so when she had auto glass damage. she chose safelite. with safelite, she could see exactly when we d be there. teacher: you must be pascal. tech: yes ma am. tech vo: saving her time. 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a file that allow them to make a plastic gun like this one using a 3-d printer. gun control advocates call these new digital firearms a threat to public safety and national security. cnn s athena jones has the details. reporter: it could be the dawn of a new era in gun manufacturing. starting as soon as wednesday, people will be able to use 3-d printers to make their own weapons and weapon parts. no background check required. this after the government settled a lawsuit last month with the non-profit group defense distributed that would allow the posting of 3-d printable gun plans online, a move that s triggering a debate about public safety and national security. the group s founder cody wilson has built a website where people will be able to download plans for a handgun he dubs the liberator as well as digital files for a complete baretta m-9 handgun and other firearms. wilson s legal battle began after he posted handgun blueprints online in 2013, leading to a demand from the state department to take them down because they could violate a law regulating the export of defense materials, services and technical data like blueprints. wilson explained his goal in a 2013 interview. i m putting guns one is an exercise in, i don t know, experimentalism, can you print a gun. but really for me it s important, it s like a symbolic political statement. reporter: he described a future in which people could access unregulated guns. in this future people would be able to make guns for themselves. that was already true but now it s been demonstrated in yet another technology. reporter: the june 29th settlement will also allow wilson s site to post online plans for an ar-15 lower receiver, a key component of the gun. gun control advocates fear these firearms made almost entirely of plastic would be untraceable and impossible to regulate. the co-president of the brady campaign to prevent gun violence says these hard to detect guns would be a national security threat making it easier for terrorists and people who can t pass criminal background checks to get their hands on dangerous weapons, adding i think everybody in america ought to be terrified about that. but experts like lawrence keen, a senior vice president for the national shooting sports foundation, the firearm industry s trade association, say 3-d printed guns would have to include metal components to function and because federal law requires it. federal law since the mid 1980s under the undetectible firearms act requires a certain amount of metal so they are not undetectible and can t go through metal detectors undetected or x-ray machines. reporter: even with those metal components the guns would not work well. the truth is they don t. many times they fail after a single shot being fired, they break. they re not very durable and they really don t work. reporter: he said the sort of high-end printer that would be needed to make a gun costs as much as a quarter of a million dollars and the resulting weapons unreliability means the country is unlikely to see a rush of people trying to print their own guns. new york senator chuck schumer expressed similar concerns back in 2013. a felon, a terrorist can make a gun in the comfort of their home, not even leaving their home, and do terrible damage with it. the question is what we do about it. reporter: last week he demanded the state department and the department of justice reverse the decision or postpone finalizing it and said that if they don t he would use emergency congressional actions to block those gun websites sxwlp so we re here to sound the alarm. we re here to plead with the administration not to allow these types of websites to go forward, which they re planning to on august 1st, and we re here to say we ll pass legislation if the special website is allowed. reporter: athena jones, cnn, new york. we have is this just in to cnn. civil rights icon and georgia congressman john lewis has been given a clean bill 6 health after spending the night in a hospital. lewis apparently became ill on a flight to atlanta yesterday. his spokeswoman telling cnn the congressman thanks everyone who shared their thoughts, their prayers and concerns during his hospital stay. again now out of the hospital. good to hear that. you are in the cnn newsroom. i m ana cabrera in new york. so glad to have you with us.
A weekly report on economic developments features interviews with business leaders, information on investment opportunities and financial advice. well as the e.u. beginning to buy more soybeans from american farmers. we are seeing real progress. american exports are on the rise. this is a strong economy and leadership on improving our trade relations for american jobs andworkers. when do you expect them to announce another solid trade deal. will you be able to announce them before the midterm elections. we are encouraged about the free trade agreement. the u.s. trade representative continues to believe there is a possibility before we get to labor day we might have a reformed nafta agreement. those details are still being worked out. look, the president came into this administration with the belief that for too long americans, our economy, our workers are being taken of reelection. you have andy barre in kentucky saying the bourbon makers are being hurt by retaliation in europe. we have many companies complaining about high prices. we think a better trade agreement with the european union will benefit every american. we respect members of congress. it s remarkable to think about all of the progress we have made has been a partnership with majorities. it s an unprecedented level of democrat obstruction. it s amazing to think in the last year and half we have faced more filibusters called by chuck schumer and the democrats in the senate by a factor of four times more then any administration going all the way back to the carter administration. we respect members of congress. we respect them standing up for interest in their district. we are grateful for the support they provide and re remain confident that it will win for their districts. the lack of democratic support brings you to my next question. is this a ploy to remind the american people that yours is the party of tax cuts before the midterm elections. the truth is you won t get any democratic support for that. do you think the eaxon my needs more stimulus. we worked closely on tax cuts 2.0. the realty is before christmas of last year president trump signed the largest tax cuts and reform in american history. going forward. we don t want policies that diminished the economy. when you travel across the country you sense the confidence. like a steelworker said in granite city, illinois yesterday. he said we are back. i sense that all across the country. people see in president trump someone who has a boundless confidence in the american future. also they see a president keeping his promises to cut taxes, roll back red tape, unleash american energy and the people are responding. the second quarter numbers 4.1% growth. on track for 3% growth. after 16 years that averaged less than 2% growth. it s a testament to the leadership. it s a testament to congress and the republican majorities that supported the president. also the confidence of the american people and president trumps vision. that is being robbed by the chinese. let s talk chana for a moment. they are using tariffs to get the chinese to stop stealing intellectual property. they have been transferring technologies. are tariffs the answer. they won t admit they are doing it. when you look at the trade deficit around the world. maria, as you know half of that is with china. for two long china has had unfettered access to the american economy and consumer. american companies have faced significant barriers. this is a real threat. this is absolutely essential that we protect intellectual property from being stolen from interest in china. we end the tok technology transfers that exist. as the americans take a strong stance and pursue a policy of raising barriers until we receive a reciprocal relationship with china. based on the relationship tractor trailer forged and some things he said on those issues. many reported for the first time talked about those who prospect intellectual property. we believe raising those issues and recognizing the need for a fair and balanced trade relationship gives us hope we can improve the relationship. president trump will continue to stand strong until we receive free and fair and unreciprocal relationship. i ll ask about you and the president and the white house. was it necessary to throw out kaitlin from cnn, what happened? let me say, this administration believes in the freedom of the press. president trump and our entire administration have provided extraordinary access to the media. the president answers so many questions. i can assure you we ll continue to do that. maintaining the decorum that s due at the white house is an issue. i m very confidence with any network this will ensure the access of the american people to this administration. this is incredible progress. on this day she was the reporter. she was repping representing everybody. i just remain very confident. look the relationship between any white house and press corp. is always, you know, it s always healthy and robust and occasionally represents disagreements. i m confident they will be able to workout the relationship in a positive way. every network and news organize will continue to have access. we stand for the freedom of the press in this white house. more of my exclusive interview with the white house coming up. follow me on twitter at maria bartiromo. we have a lot coming up. more with vice president and lindsey graham. that s auto and home insurance for the modern world. esurance. an allstate company. click or call. the president s efforts to roll back tape med with incredible object instrumentation. with this administration we faced four times more filibusters in our first two years then any of the last administrations going all the way back to jimmy carter. what the president and i believe as we travel across the country is that we need to communicate our majorities and have more republicans in the house and senate. as more americans see what the president is doing and enthuse enthusiastic about the commitment and america standing tall and fighting for american jobs. those same americans should know we have only be able to do that because the partners on capitol hill will continue and build on the momentum of the economy with more partners. all right, a quick break. more from my interview with mike pence. plus a showdown in turkey over a pastor. senator lindsey graham is coming up live. we have a lot to cover this morning on sunday morning futures. ron! soh really? 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pastor andrew is an innocent man. he s a man of profound christian faith that mensterred in turkey for more then 20 years. he was swept up in arrest in 2016. there is no credible evidence of wrongdoing. this was a year without being charged. for the last several years he has been in a turkey prison. president trump and i engaged the a turkish government directy to release him and send him home. those negotiations have been on going and continuous. we welcome the news this week that turkey made the decision to transfer the pastor to home arrest to his apartment in turkey. i spoke to him and his wife shortly after they arrived. pastor andrew should be freed and allowed to return to his family, to his home, to his church, and nation of the united states of america. the trust is. as i said earlier this week. pastor before yo andrew at homes not good enough. we are prepared to bring sanctions against turkey until pastor andrew before yo is free. have you received a response from turkey? we have heard from certain officials in turkey but we have made it clear that this innocent man of faith should be released and allowed to return to the united states. we will continue to take a strong stand. we ll bring sanctions against turkey. thank you so much for joining us. thank you so much. since my conversation with the vice president the state department said secretary of state pompeo spoke to the foreign minister saturday about the case of pastor andrew. the secretary and minister will continue to address other issues of concern. turkey s president said they won t back down in the threat of sanctions. after my interview with the president. that interview took place in the eisenhower executive office. he took me on a tour of his private office inside the west wing. a place that s full of history. he showed me a photograph of his father second lieutenant edward j. pence receiving the bronze star for his service in the war. as well as the metal itself. he showed me both of pitch he proudly displayed. this is rare gleams tomorrow morning. join us tomorrow morning. still ahead senator lindsey graham is here. judge brett kavanaugh all discussing this on sunday morning futures. this is next. let s bring in senator graham. it s gotta to see you this morning. thank you for joining us. thank you. a lot to talk about. north korea, my thoughts, the only reason we are moving forward is president trump convinced north korea ehe was serious about them giving up their nuclear program. having the remains returned to the united states is much appreciated by the families in the country as a whole. we are looking for complete irreversible, verifiable denuclearization. china is trying to run the clock out. if i were president trump i would keep the pressure on and be willing to walk away. the only way to get a deal that matters is to convince them we will stop the nuclear program if we have to. do you think the north believed that now or has it been emboldened? i think china is undercutting president trump when it comes to north korea. i believe they believe they won t allow them to hit the homeland. he set his policy in stone. complete, verifiable, irreversible. iran is watching, russia is watching. the only way to get there is to put a deadline on this. president trump said he wanted this to happen. i see the timeline slipping. that worries me. the only way we made progress is because trump has been strong in the eyes of north korea. you have to stay strong. i don t want a war with north korea. there will be one in china s backyard. i hope china understands that. let me move onto it other nuclear power. do you want to see sanctions put against russia? 100%. i will give president trump credit for being tough on russian that obama. that s without a doubt clear. army, the ukraine, expelling diplomats. it s not working, maria. this week was good news for me in two ways. the president with a national security council on friday. that s presidential leadership i ve been looking for. i talked to homeland security folks. the good package is coming out of the administration. pompeo told ma then degrees he would work with myself and put new sanctions on the table with russia. i m come out with sanctions on russia. what we were doing is not working. we won t see putin come meet with the president at the white house. let me ask you about the micheal cohen news. he taped his clients which seems unprecedented to me and rudy giuliani said they tampered with the tape. the one thing about micheal cohen is i ve never seen a lawyer act this way. when it comes to micheal cohen you should be suspicious of what he says. people like him will make things up. i spoke to richard yesterday. he appeared before congress talking about a lot of things. this idea he told trump about the russian meeting before it happened is to us knew news. mr. cohen, if you have something new to say you need to come and say it under oath. in terms of him saying it under oath is that a possibility. will he testify again. i don t know but i m tired of having president trump in the media. mueller is the leaker of stories in the news. this is new information about the russian meeting regarding president trump. i ve been lawyer all my adult life. that s the media strategy. i know what he said in the past art president trump not knowing anything about the meeting. he s on record and if he has something new to say don t leak it to nbc news. come to the committees and say what you have to say under oath and to ever american. i would be as yo suspicious of l cohen. i have to talk to you about iran. i ll do that after the break. we are back with lendcy graham. seems like the trump administration has a bid to create new security and political alliance with the middle east. give us the latest in terms of your viewpoints. i ve never before more pleased for president trump then iran. he s working to isolate iran. the european union needs to help us. instead of doing business with d.i. auto who ask a religious nazi. our friends should break the back of the regime. i like the idea of withdrawing from the agreement. he took the money and spent it on military. they are headed with the women. keep it up secretary pompeii yo. regime changes are coming to iran. then there is ch china. does it straighten the unity of the u.s. together to go up against china s bad behavior. that s the only way when it comes to china. the european union and the nations are being effected by trade practices. this is how the movie ends. the airbus and that hurts boeing. they have a 10% tariff made in america. it s two and half percent. let s go and ged rit of this and reunite. if you stay in the wto you will have new rules to abide by. kick them out or we get out. he s been tough on china, that s for sure. yes, he has. let me ask you do you have to votes to confirm brett kavanaugh. he s expecting a confirmation before the midterms. there is a lot of doubt when it comes to brett kavanaugh. i have zero doubt he will be on the supreme court. he s highly qualified and well deserving. the president couldn t have chosen better. he will get confirmed with democratic votes. all right, we will see which one they will be meeting with next week. thank you so much. see you soon. the house republicans are working to declassify key portions of the fiza document. we ll have more next. every page is blacked out. i would like to ask you about that. you basically said, look, this has to be declassified for the american people to understand. tell us why? it s like groundhog day. if you remember a few weeks ago we were talking about the heavyvy heavy redactions done on what they were doing. they had been totally redacted. the media was attacking the republicans work. this is another situation where the fisa document. there is so much that s redacted, maria. yeah. if you notice the left and mane stream media said. we were exonerated once this came out. we put-out the memo or the dirt used to get the fisa warrant. now, if you look at what they are saying but the really juicy stuff is the stuff that proves collusion and how bad page really was. that s what is redacted. that was the news report after 48 hours. once they found that back in june to declassify up to 20 pages. you will hear nothing. they don t want transparency for the american people. the president has the letter from us. i think his lawyers are looking to declassify it. as soon as it comes out the better off we are. what s left is what is redacted. yeah, that s what i would like to ask you about. i read this in the wall street journal. devin was washington memo number one. what else is in the application is worse. you identified a specific number. can you tell us what could possibly be worse than using an unverified peace of nonsense to get a warrant to spy on an american citizen. there is the problem. the mainstream media and left can say what is really bad is the public can t see. it redacted. the realty is that s not the case. they have been providing over site of the issue. several members have been going through it piece by piece. we are contax cuts den conift when the american people see it that will be shocked. has the president read the unredacted portion? i have no idea what the president has or has not read. all i know is we sent him a letter back in june asking him to reclassify the 20 pages or more. the more the better. i think most of what we would like to see are 20 pages in the last fisa. seams like the midterm elections are that much more important. we wouldn t know any of this stuff without your committee and colleagues and over site. we wouldn t know half of the stuff tax cuts took place in the 2016 elections. what happens if the house flips and takes the majority? well that s what i said in the wall street journal interview. i stated that i m quiet confident because i ve seen this played before. there is a stall game going on. they are trying to stall as much as they can that the republicans would lose the house in the fall. this would shutdown everybody. rod wouldn t be held for contempt. all of the investigations will be shutdown and you will be left with media narratives saying oh, what the public can t read. what s blackout is what s really bad. that s why the sooner the president declassifies the better. the american people need to understand how important it will be to get out and vote in the election. tell us were the investigation stands right now. is rod rosenstein preforming? what i can tell you is there was a move late last week to begin impeachment. i think there are grounds for impeachment and we should hold them accountable. congress has given them way too much power. the way i understand it is the judiciary committee and over site committee got commitments that documents will be provided. we are suppose to see those this week. in addition to the interviews/deposition they will begin in august. they will conduct interviews with very important witnesses that need to be interviewed as we get to the bottom of the russia gate scandal. let me ask you with what s going on with twitter and shadow banning. are they censoring conservative views and speakers? yeah, i hod no idea what shadow banning was. i had no clue. for several months people have been contacting me saying i tried to find you on twitter. i couldn t find your account, why is that. then we had a report that came out where there were four people in the house of representatives and four elected officials that were quote-unquote, they don t call it shadow banning. there was a trap were people couldn t see our twitter feed. that was mr. gates, mr. jordan, and myself. it looks like they are censoring people. they ought to stop it. we are looking at legal remedies to go through. mr. chairman. thank you so much. ..
for quite some time. the girl s and sister followed behind, joined in on the embrace. a surprise. they posted a video to facebook saying we only have him for a few weeks but we are really excited. home on leave. i could play those all day. thanks for inviting us into your home tonight. that s it for this special report, fair, balanced and unafraid. here s martha. martha: it making me misty at the start of my show. thank you so much. breaking tonight, on the heels of the leaked michael cohen tape president trump called a hastily convened press conference in the rose garden saying this. the european union is doing to us is incredible, how bad. they made $151 billion last year, our trade deficit. i said you have to change. they didn t want to change. i said we will tariff your cars. they said when can we show up? would tomorrow be okay? martha: and tomorrow was. they showed up today and all of that happened during the grilling of secretary mike pompeo, democrats asking incredulously how the president could possibly meet along with blood and recruiting despite the fact that as rand paul pointed out, putin has met one-on-one with the last three u.s. presidents. ben shapiro here on all of the day s big headlines. we began with trace gallagher on the latest fallout from those bombshell michael: recordings. let s begin with what we kno know. the recorded conversation between then candidate donald trump and his attorney michael cohen is about buying the rights to the story of an alleged affair between trump and playboy model karen mcdougall. at the time the story belonged to american media, which owns the national enquirer. here are the last nine secretary of the tape, listen closely. we normally put the words on the screen, but the tape is garbled and impossible to verb eight and that s the primary issue, exactly what did donald trump say? the white house and trump attorney rudy giuliani maintained mr. trump said don t pay with cash. michael cohen s attorney lanny davis who gave the tape to cnn indicates that trump wanted to pay with cash. davis even went on to say that only drug dealers and mobsters pay with cash, but the washington post, abc and nbc, not exactly trump-loving media outlets, all agree the exact wording on the tape is unintelligible. today the president tweeted what kind of lawyer would tape a client? so sad. is this a first? never heard of it before. why was the tape so abruptly terminated, cut while i was prism will be saying positive things? i hear there are other clients and many reporters that are tapes can this be so? too bad! suggesting the audio had been edited or doctored except the president suggested no such thing. he simply asked why the tape was abruptly terminated and there is a big difference between doctoring a tape and not playing the whole thing. after the president s question about why a lawyer would tape his client, lanny davis was asked about that on good morning america. watch. michael cohen has an answer to why he taped conversations and i think you will have to give that answer himself. i can t reveal that. but davis did reveal there are more tapes and they will apparently be released very soon and regardless of what was said on this tape, harvard law professor alan dershowitz and the publication law and order both agree mr. trump did nothing illegal and we should note the transaction to buy the playboy model story of american media never happened. martha. martha: fascinating, thank you very much. to talk about this and all of it really that happened this afternoon, a head spinning day, ben shapiro, editor in chief of the daily wire. joins me with a look at all of it. good to see if any, thank you very much for being with us. i want to get to the trade issue, which i think was fascinating. a very hard pivot from the white house and a hastily convened news conference as we just said. very big news. i want to get to that in just a moment. let s start with the tape from last night. alan dershowitz, as trays just pointed out, said setting up a corporation for payment is fine, it happens all the time and he pointed out the payment was never actually made by judge napolitano said this morning that what they are discussing is a civil fraud and could be problematic for the president. how do you see it? the possibility of a campaign finance violation is really the serious question. did president trump hand cash to michael cohen to pay off the publishers of the national enquirer to in ordeo help his campaign? that the basic question. there are a lot of dots to be connected. we don t know if the money did pass hands. how it past tense, we don t know, even if trump paid off the national enquirer whether it had to do with the election are not because that s really a matter of opinion. so as any of this really going to damage president trump? i think not. i think it s all baked into the cake. more than that i think it s very difficult to criminally prosecute these types of cases. john edwards, the democratic presidential contender in 2008, a very similar issue. he was actually trite and there was a hung jury. the charges ended up falling apart and this is going to be the democrats hope it is, the kill shot with regards to the presidency. martha: here is a quick montage of some of the reaction to this news that michael cohen was flipping as they put it, watch. this is the president s he knows everything and if he flips, forget about it. michael cohen has not flipped on donald trump. he could slip and be of value to the fence. martha: glee all across the board. what difference does it make in the end? a lot of wishful thinking. we will not know what michael cohen has until he actually shows what he has. i think at this point he signaling to prosecutors that he has a lot simply because he would like to get off the hook and the only way they cut a deal with him as if he has a lot. i m not actually sure that he has very much. the fact that the president has probably paid off a number of these types of cases before it actually helps the president when it comes to the legal case. martha: in terms of what we saw this afternoon, because as i said there were sort of a rush this afternoon, a call for all of the reporters to come to the rose garden. they set up the two podiums, they were not expecting a pilot with the head of the e.u., who looked mildly happy i guess to be there. but the president has said that they are giving us such a raw deal. do you think it sounds like the president got a good deal here? it sounds like trade were averted. the best thing the economy can hope for is no trade war. it sounds like now like the europeans are making some relatively moderate to minor concessions in the united states is going to back off its weapons with regard to tariffs. maybe the president wants to keep in place the steel tariffs and aluminum tariffs. frankly i just don t know at this point until we actually see the formal wording of the details. and until we see that we will not know whether the president made a good deal here or a bad deal. it is pretty clear that the direction everybody wants to move is free-trade. that in and of itself is a good signal. martha: one of the things i find interesting is we have the globalists at the white house who were fretting so deeply over the potential for trade war, which i guess may still happen. we sort of me to see how all of this works out, but when you hear that the e.u. is now going to be buying more soybeans, that obviously is a hope to keep the farmers happy in the united states, that there are going to be in escalations and auto tariffs, at least not right now. it seems like this is the way the president does everything. he lays down this huge marker, sort of scares everybody that he s going to be so dramatic with these tariffs that it s going to cause a colossal trade war and now as he says he got the e.u. saying we can come to the white house tomorrow actually and they will buy an enormous amount of liquefied natural gas, which is terrible news for russia. the fact is the most plausible possible rate of the president s behavior, it s also possible he just has a lot of stuff about tariffs and the other guy gets scared and they make a deal. whoever you want to give credit to cover the bottom line is once we find it within the deal he s either going to get full credit or full blame for whatever is happening. martha: in terms of russia, the meeting now moves to next year. at the earliest, and as i said, the moves on the missile front, liquefied natural gas, all of this is not good news for russia. all of these things almost feeling somewhat like the president is really bending over backwards not to prove that he will not do anything that would look as if he is kowtowing to russia in any way. the fact is there s always been a disconnect between president trump specific personal rhetoric and his administration s policy with regard to russia. on the president was very complement rhea vladimir putin over the last week and a half and his administration continued various sanctions against the russians. they continue to provide deadly weaponry to the ukrainians. they said they will not recognize the russian seizure of crimea is legitimate. all of this suggests either that the president is sort of playing both sides and he s carrying he speaking loudly and then he is essentially doing the opposite in order to promulgate a particular policy or as the president says stuff in the it up for him. either way the outcome is basically the same. martha: another topic i want to ask about is the story today about shadow banning and whether or not certain conservatives having their twitter feeds shadow band. this is an idea that s been around for a while but why don t you explain to everyone what it is and how it works. shadow banning can be done a couple of different ways on twitter. one of the allegations is that if you tweet something it just doesn t show up in people s fees. because twitter has essentially downgraded the content that you are tweeting about. the other way that it shows up if you go to search for somebody s account online and it doesn t automatically fill in the rest of the account at the top of the twitter search bar. that s been well substantiated. vice news says this is happening on a routine basis to a lot of folks on the right side of the aisle but almost never to people on the left side. people have the right to be suspicious about the twitter trends and how twitter operates its business. they are not transparent when it comes to their logarithms and because of that, because they sort of perceived bias is going to be exasperated eveni understand why you don t trust me. the only way they will do better is if they come fully clean with the american people on how they operate. martha: questions have been right about the head of the rnc, donald trump jr. sara carter the reporter suggesting today that some of what she was standing out there was not being seen and if this is true, it s so surreptitious. the idea that you could be tweeting something in thinking or putting it out there but they are blocking it so that you don t know that it s not out there, but no one is seeing it, so they are trying to basically quench your voice over time and beat you down so that nobody is seeing what you are putting out there anymore and then they end up they don t listen to you anymore ultimately. this is one of the serious problems with social media generally, that there s no transparency. sometimes they will change the access and will notify you. they say we have downgraded particular content, you re just don t see it anymore. martha: ben shapiro, always good to see you, thank you very much, have a good night. fox news alert just moments ago, articles of impeachment have now been filed against deputy ag rod rosenstein. jason chaffetz joins me with the breaking news and where this goes from here and how quickly. also tonight, secretary of state pompeo grilled on why the president would risk one-on-one time with vladimir putin. do they ask the same of president obama or president bush? who brought food and for a visit? why the double standard? general jack keane live here next. let your perfect drive come together at the lincoln summer invitation sales event. get 0% apr on select 2018 lincoln models plus $1,000 bonus cash. with advil liqui-gels, what bad shoulder? what headache? advil is relief that s fast strength that lasts you ll ask. what pain? with advil liqui-gels near hemet california. it has prompted mandatory evacuations. began around noon. already has spread 200 acres. so far no injuries or deaths have been reported. we will keep on top of that situation. we will view updates as we get them. in the meantime, secretary of state mike pompeo on capitol hill today. he was there to find out what happened in helsinki. that was what the members of congress wanted to know and here s what it looked like if you missed it. is there a strategy to this? what is it that causes the president to purposely, purposely create distrust in these institutions and what we are doing? to the president tell you that he discussed relaxing russian sanctions are not? senator, i am telling you what he had a conversation with vladimir putin about and i m telling you what u.s. policy is today. i understand the game that you are playing. mr. secretary, with all due respect, i don t appreciate you characterizing my questions. i am afraid that at this point the united states, the trump administration is being taken for a ride. fear not, senator . we have not been taken for a ride. i hope you can sleep a little better. martha: general jack keane fox news senior strategic analyst, good to have you here as always. they really pressed him on this issue. they are convinced that something secretive happened in those two hours in the meeting with vladimir putin but as rand paul pointed out, the last three presidents have had extensive one-on-one meetings with vladimir putin and i don t remember this kind of outrage. i think it comes down to the democrats just don t trust the president. within his right to have one-on-one meetings. i think it s his personal style. he wants to establish a personal relationship to lead to another meeting and also maybe get something done. just think of our adversaries, china, north korea and russia. he has praised all three of those leaders even though we have fundamental disagreements. he wants the personal relationship so maybe we can make some improvements on the fundamental disagreements. in some cases it will work, in some cases it won t. but we are not going to change it, that s his style. martha: you have to wonder if it put him in a more difficult position, that news conference. that was always sought, the news conference, because now he s saying that the meeting is going to be delayed, it won t happen until after the witch hunt, as he put it, that could be for some time. and destroy deal today is a real finger in the eye for russia with his liquefied natural gas deal with the eq because their whole economy is based on energ energy. the press conference, they have to decide one of the outcomes we want to hear and what is the tone of the summit going to be an they just didn t prepare for that the way they prepared for the summit. but when you line up all the things that this administration has done against russia, we haven t had a president stood up to russia except to this degree comparable to ronald reagan. and to include the reagan defense buildup and the trump defense buildup. martha: there were questions about crimea and secretary pompeo really laid out very clearly what our policy is on crimea, if there was any vagueness that was left open. i think they had to clear up the fact that the president more than once had said when so many asked him a question about crimea, he would say it didn t happen on my watch, it wouldn t have happened if i was president. people i think you misinterpreted that. that we would conceded. a formal declaration that we are not going to do that. and pompeo s and we will agree to disagree with them on ukraine. but there have been some positive things that came out. admittedly they are not major, major agreements. business exchanges, work on counterterrorism together, work on humanitarian issues inside syria and try to reduce the violence. those are not real concrete policies that will have far-reaching impacts, but nonetheless there is some agreement and they didn t get any place on the new start treaty, which expires in 21 and also the fact that russia is violating intermediate nuclear force treaty, the inf treaty and we intend to violate it ourselves because they developed capability that is not permitte permitted. martha: is no doubt that secretary pompeo stood his ground and said that the president knows exactly what he s talking about. he said are brief and myself so i know he understands what s going on with all of this because there was the attitude on the part of some of those members of congress that they were just bewildered and couldn t figure out what had been going on there. but i do want to ask you one other thing about this comment by maguire, who talked about something that we don t hear all that much about right now, but maybe we need to pay more attention to, let s watch. more threats originating from more places and more individuals and we have had in the last 17 years. bullets and drone strikes alone are not sufficient to counter extremist organizations. to ultimately win this fight we must address the causes and conditions that inspire men and women to join terrorist organizations of radicalized violence. martha: it looks like there has been a quiet on that front in some ways, is that inaccurate? there has been a quiet but isis did expand into 30 other affiliates around the world. despite killing osama bin laden and the previous administration claiming al qaeda is somewhat dead. they are thriving organization and the most significant is the organization in syria and the other one is in yemen. and the reason why it s kind of quiet, we have finally penetrated into the virtual caliphate, particularly that isis has. we took the physical caliphate not totally away but mostly away. we have made some real progress and a lot of our media folks, social media folks have taken down tens of thousands of sites that they have an they have been cooperating with us. we have also learned a lot through the years dealing with isis because they were so sophisticated in how they use the internet. they recruited from four to 500 people, 30,000 plus in 18 months, largely on the internet. it s absolutely stunning. martha: it s really encouraging to hear that you feel like we are battling that front well because that is their beacon and their way to reach people, so that s encouraging. the admiral is right, we can t shoot our way out of this. we have to hold this behavior accountable. so pull triggers against them when we can but we have really got to get these young people to reach out for an alternative to this radicalism. martha: general jack keane, always good to see you. fox news alert, moments ago, articles of impeachment have now been filed against deputy attorney general rod rosenstein. he s been accused of stonewalling congress and its investigation into how the fbi handled the trump-russia investigation. so this is big news. jason chaffetz breaks it down for a snack and diane black is known for her handling of the tax cuts and tax reform and for being a big supporter of president trump, but tonight she is speaking out on the story about the threat on her life and the man who police believe is behind it. multivitamin with antioxidants from one total serving of fruits and veggies try new one a day with nature s medley. the full value oft wyour new car? you d be better off throwing your money right into the 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joining me now with what this means, how all of this is going to play out, former congressman jason chaffetz, author of the new book a deep state. good to see her tonight, go to have you with us. what does it mean? i m glad congress is finally standing up for itself. how many times you have to have duly issued subpoenas that are totally ignored by the department of justice? if you had done this you would be in jail but the only way to enforce the subpoena is to get the department of justice to do it and rod rosenstein has been more than cavalier in saying i m not going to comply with that. they have redacted things that shouldn t have been redacted and they are not supplying documents to congress. that s one part of it, noncompliance to duly issued subpoenas. the second part is this buys that application. it has his name on it. he is central to an investigation being done by congress. the inspector general and perhaps others. so here you have somebody who should have recused himself. he s signing off on investigation overseeing an investigation of which he has the central figure. martha: what do you think the likely outcome is an meadows and jordan are going to be on with laura ingraham later this evening to talk about it, but is this to force their hand so that they are more forthcoming with the documents, or is it real? do they really want to impeach rod rosenstein? they should. we had the council look at this. we try to impeach lois lerner, something a lot of people don t know. martha: that turned out well. under advice and consent of the constitution. counsel came back and said if you are confirmed by the senate you can do that, but very few members are willing to pull that trigger and people like jordan and meadows and i hope a host of others that will start to understand it is one of the constitutional letters that is given to the power of congress to stand up for itself because right now they are totally impotent. they aren t able to do anything and the department of justice just thumbs their nose and puts the arm up and consequently congress can t do its job. martha: i think people feel like they see folks on the oversight committee just throw up their hands and rant and rave about not getting what they want and you can understand the argument that technically they should be turning over these documents. they get stonewalled all the time and are never able to actually push it through and push the envelope and make them give you what you want. one of the turning point is when jim comey tweeted out he wants people to vote for the democrats and the reason why they want to do that is because these are the same people are under investigation. what do they think is going to happen when the democrats get in charge? all these investigation i wrote a book about this stuff. that s what they want to do. they go after these people. the only way to get their attention is to ratchet it up. the entire top echelon of the fbi has been decimated. people have resigned, people have been demoted. somebody has been fired. if you have a 560 page inspector general report. the imperative to congress to fix this and fast is there. when rod rosenstein stands in the way of all of that by not allowing congress to do its job, then we should get rid of them. the only way to do that is through impeachment. martha: and anyone who brings it up is disrespectful to the intelligence agency. that s the line that comes back. a couple of things here. you just mentioned if democrats get control, it looks like that s increasingly likely. the latest quinnipiac poll has democrats up by 12. that s a generic question. would you rather see a democrat or republican in your district. 51% say they would rather see a democrat. it looks at least these are the same polls that set hillary clinton will be the next president of the united states and by about 8:00 p.m. on election night martha: how confident are you in disbelieving multiples? i m willing to bet a chick-fil-a on it. one of the democrats offering? no new leadership, pelosi and schumer. what is their message, we are going to raise your taxes. all they are is obstructionist. the resist movement just says no to everything. ron, the senator out of oregon saying that because president trump wants to take away security clearances of former employees, that we should impeach them. they way overplayed their hand. so republicans i think have been the adults in the room. the economy is doing well and look at the announcement tonight when the president played a tough hand. it looks like he s going to win and being able to reduce the tariffs. that s huge. martha: that s a big story. here s palmer i m talking about how much time they have left and how much they can get done. watch this. you only have nine more full days. jason chaffetz was on with us earlier, only nine more full days until the midterm elections. that s crazy. right around the corner. we have a lot to do. martha: how is it that they have nine more working days between now and november? it s congress. martha: nine days between now and november! you can t give up recess. come on! martha: you ve got to be kidding me. they ve basically been sitting back since the tax reform passed. they have to pass with the resolution on omnibus that that but they will probably do a short term that everybody will go along with it. they might do something with taxes in the house but in the senate it s all about judge kavanaugh and getting him to the supreme court and getting other judicial nominees. think about it, mitch mcconnell promised we are going to work through august except they are taking the first week off. martha: he says that when he makes those threats they do get some movement. they get they all know it s a bluff! martha: you better follow through. don t take the first week of august off. martha: the deep state. quick quote for the book. i didn t know what it wasn t until i started in congress but there are an army of bureaucrats who push back as they want to take down the trump agenda. i lived it, i saw it, my real life stories will be on the bookshelf in september, but you can order it now. martha: former congressman, good to see you, good luck with the book. all right, coming up next, congresswoman diane black is speaking out for the first time about the threats against her life for standing behind the president. she joins us exclusively tonight. and remember this guy? i ve got a big truck just in case i need to round up criminal illegals and take them home myself. i just said that. martha: i just said that and i just won the republican nomination in georgia for the governor s seat so we will talk about that. chris stirewalt coming up next. because you ve made sure this sensor and this machine are integrated. & she can talk to him, & yes. atta, boy. some people assign genders to machines. and you can be sure you won t have any problems. except for the daily theft of your danish. not cool! at&t 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evening. i imagine you are resting somewhat easier knowing that this person is behind bars, but what exactly did he do and say to you? i can t talk about the details except to say that they were threats and they were serious enough threats that the grand jury did take action. and i will tell you this is not the first time and it probably won t be the last time that when people get angry and they do and say things that are threatening, but i believe in what the president wants to do in protecting our border. i believe in building the wall and i believe in holding people accountable that come to our country illegally and i m never going to back down on that. this is something that we as legislators know in the business, this is not the first time. this can happen and yet i love what i do and so i m willing to be there when i have to be there to say the tough things. martha: do you know if he was ever at events that you are speaking at? was he publicly in your space ever? not that i m aware of. i know that most of this was done through various means of communication, but not that i m aware of. martha: he left a voice mail s? yes, he left me voice mails. martha: can you give us some indication of the nature of the voice mails? i can t except i can tell you that they were very serious and they concern the police. thank goodness that we have police officers who were there to investigate and the grand jury listening to what those tapes said and felt that it was serious enough to arrest him and he has been apprehended. that makes my family feel bette better. martha: i m sure it does. martha: i have been through this before, it s what is a public servant, it is what we face and many times people don t talk about it, but we are in these situations. you never know when it is going to be serious, as it was with gabby giffords and also with steve scalise. very scary for our families. martha: looking at this this afternoon, in 2016 there were 902 threatening incidents against members of congress. in 2017, there were 2,000. you say that part of it was because of your strong support for the president, is that why we are seeing an escalation, because politics are so dramatically divisive now? i think sometimes the rhetoric just gets people so stirred up and there are people who are very radical in what they say. not just that they disagree with what you say, and we all can be disagreed with what we say, but when there are these radical statements made an insinuations that would be physical, i think it does and it s unfortunate because that is not what our dialogue should be about. we can disagree with one another but when you have things that are said that are so difficult that are going to cost people to get so angry, then these kinds of things do happen unfortunately. martha: jason chaffetz wrote the segment coming up and he said he had similar experiences and less protection when you go home to your home district then you do at the capital, although they have made some efforts to increase her protection. they can t do it all. thank you, very good to see you tonight. thank you for having me. martha: chris stirewalt joins me now. good to have you with us tonight. i want to switch gears here and talk a little bit about this georgia race. here is a little sample of ryan kemp and his advertising campaign that appears to have worked. donald trump is right, we must secure the border and end to sanctuary cities. two things if you are going to date one of my daughters, respect and a healthy appreciation of the second amendment. sorry. we are going to get along just fine. i ve got a big truck just in case i need to round up criminal illegals and take them home myself. i just said that. martha: yep, i just said that. chris stirewalt, you say things like that a lot of times too. maybe not just like that. i have never held a firearm on another living human so i m at a disadvantage in that way. martha: that s because your children aren t dating age yet. that s true and i was blessed not to have daughters in that way. those ads did not work for kemp. he was losing considerably to casey cagle. what lost this race for casey cagle, who interviewed him, he was consistently ahead, one of his former rivals from the first round of the primary, they do a two round with a runoff. in the first round this guy went in and he ask him for his endorsement. he flipped his iphone in his pocket, turned the record on and he said things that are true but the politicians shouldn t say in public and this guy released the audio and it blew the bottom out of him. i mean roasted him. and then at the end, he gets the dirty tricks and just as he s trying to scrape back from the bottom, the white house weighs in. the president tweets and then mike pence comes down for a visit because one of the big things that he has going for him, he s a political ally of the man who is now our agriculture secretary and that good work for him worked in the white house, worked with the administration, got him the help and let him to a 39-point win. that s a lot of points. martha: i looked at the map, there s 118 section in the middle of the state and that was all she wrote. chris, thank you. i m going to say that all the time now. i just said that. coming up next, the war on straws, part two, and now jail time. i kid you not for waiters and waitresses who dare to give someone a plastic straw in some places. is one more pointless environmental zealotry. we are going to band straws because there s a lot of plastic in the ocean. banning these straws is going to make no difference. martha: is john stossel right, and what s behind these laws that could throw some plastic straw offenders be careful in jail. jackie nunez, the self-proclaimed straw lady is here to explain next. i just want to say one word to you. just one word. yes, sir. are you listening? yes. plastics. mped out of nowhere, or if you forgot your bike was on the roof rack, you only pay one 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cohen betray you mr. president? thank you, everybody. mr. president, did michael cohen betray you? others in attendance pointed out that collins wasn t the only one lobbying questions. cnn has now issued a statement saying her questions were not inappropriate just because it made the white house uncomfortable. the white house press corps has now filed a complaint and just now fox news president jay wallace released this statement, quoting here again. we stand in strong solidarity with cnn for the right to full access for our journalists as part of a free and unfettered press and sarah sanders has also now issued a statement and i m paraphrasing here. she is saying look, the bottom line is we asked her to leave, she refused to leave and therefore we set her questions were inappropriate and she was later banned from the rose garden news conference. sarah sanders went on to say we do support a free press, but this particular case was inappropriate. the white house getting a lot of pushback on this. martha: we all remember when president obama try to push back on members of fox news at different times. disputes over sitting in the front row in the briefing room, but she is a member of the white house pool and should be treated as such and not isolated. at least on the face of it, that question appears to be very similar to the one that was shouted by a number of organizations there. we will see where it goes. thank you very much, good to see you tonight. on a lighter note, sort of, the war on straws is spreading across the nation, which we talked about last night. 15 cities that have approved bands on plastic straws and many others are considering joining the starless societies. santa barbara, california, is going one step further. in the city may even jail repeat offenders. i kid you not. so what are the facts behind these laws? joining me now, jackie nunez, who calls herself a straw lady and is the founder of the last plastic straw. good to have you here. i want to jump right in because we don t have that much time. i guess my question is, it s fine to want to cut back on plastics, i think everybody understands the need for that. if we don t want our oceans flooded with plastic even though the u.s. is a smaller contributor in asia and africa, which constitute most of it, but if i want to have a plastic straw, isn t it my right to be able to have one, or should the government have the right to bear my freedom on that? first of all, i m not for straw bands, i never have been. i m for source reduction of single use plastics, so i am all for our landfills are overflowing. there is a lot of plastic everywhere where it doesn t belong. we don t have a handle on it, so you can point fingers to other countries, but we don t even handle it well in our own country. martha: but you are saying you are for a forced band? it s not a forced band, i think every community can say what and what cannot be acceptable. we are all taxed, our landfills are overflowing. if there s better alternatives out there that they can handle ghost we went to give you the paper straw, which collapses and doesn t work, and they put it in a huge plastic covered cup, i m not sure that that s getting us anywhere, is it? it s a start. and as far as a collapsible paper straw, it all depends on what kind of company you get it from. there s a lot of cheap ones coming out of china that had some bad chemicals in it and i wouldn t use it anyways. we do have a good company out of the u.s. that actually makes a paper straw that last in your drink for three hours. so there are alternatives. the great thing is that it s bringing a lot of innovation and great design things. martha: i hear you and i think there s nothing wrong with encouraging people to do something differently. it s america, you can encourage people to do whatever you want but if i m a waiter or a waitress and i twice get caught giving someone a plastic straw because the customer that i m waiting on has requested it, i could go to jail in santa barbara, are you okay with that? there s exemptions for people who need straws. martha: what about people who want straws? just people who want them. i think what the core of it is not really about necessarily distraught, it s about the plastic for single use. martha: i get what you are encouraging, but the ban and the law and the jail time takes away my freedom, if i choose to use that plastic. shouldn t i be allowed in the united states of america to use it if that s my choice, even if i understand all the options on the problems with it potentiall potentially? i think there s room for regulation. i think it s top-down, bottom-up. there are a lot of people that are demanding this change and i think there s a lot of businesses stepping up and doing it. martha: but they are mending it because they have been told things that people drink 500 million straws a day, which is impossible, there s only 325 million people in the country. they have been looking at the internal video, which is a sad thing, i watched it today, but to me it s all about the band and about forcefully telling people what they can and cannot use with their own money and their own time. our communities, we are taxed by this burden. the true cost of plastic is beyond just martha: it s more expensive to make paper straws than it is plastic straws. it s really actually the burden that the plastic straw is a gross polluter in every state of its existence. from the extraction to productions, the manufacturing to shipping. there s a lot of burden on it on our environment and it s also taxing our wheat strings. it s clogging up our drains. clogging up the oceans. martha: i hear you, i think you made your point. it never was and will be disposable. martha: thank you. we will be right back with more of the story right afteron th. nexium 24hr stops acid before it starts for all-day, all-night protection. can you imagine 24 hours without heartburn? keep it comin 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