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she knows what she is talking about. thank you, my friend. today, a full jury in panel at donald trump's controversy case. a full jury. to be some civic, 12 jurors. before the trial can get underway, the court still has to pick five more alternate jurors. with the pace this is going, that could very easily happen tomorrow, putting this trial on track for opening statements to start monday. or some of those seated jurors could drop out tomorrow. because it has not been an entirely unprecedented scenario. before the jury grew today, it shrink. today started with two already seated jurors being excused, being removed from the jury. the first to be excused was juror number two. to understand why you first have to understand what has been happening in conservative media. >> i believe that no matter what they do here, this is a
the hook? >> there is certainly a scenario where israel said we have to respond. the current state of how things are going within the region, you mentioned it at the top. right now we have israel, they are within the hornet's nest. have to have eyes in the back of their heads because they are in the middle of a region that does not want them there. this could be a situation where israel said we are going to retaliate and you mentioned briefly earlier that there seems to be some sort of notification that was given to the white house. there must have been some sort of discussion as to whether or not whatever attack that they were going to conduct in iran, whether it be too much or too little or somewhere in that sweet spot. there could be the situation where israel said, hey, we're going to attack whether it be military installations, depots, the united states government said go ahead we agree with you. then it was in some sort of agreement that they did this so that it wouldn't make everyone feel as if they needed to retaliate again and again.
there were numerous occasions in which the israeli officials could have told the us officials that this was coming and that's indeed what we understand happened but in the words of one us official, i spoke with moments ago they did not endorse what happened tonight and endorsed this plan because they are so fearful of what could happen next. essentially, the best-case scenario, laura is that iran kind of takes this on the chin and it goes back to that shadow proxy war. but there's a very, very good chance that iran responds directly to israel. yet again, laura very daunting proposition and thinking about all that is happened, the idea of what the foreign minister say earlier today also the questions being raised of what impact of that advanced notice will be on the united states is ability to remain distant from this particular interaction and retaliatory swapping of strikes
great to have you on the show. we've been going through this step-by-step here. we are hearing from iranian state television from iranian officials and we hear that isfahan, all the nuclear facilities are fully safe after air defence batteries fired. next they say the explosion was the result of the activation of the air defence systems. it appears to be denied denied denied type of scenario. nothing was fired here, what you talking about. >> great reporting by both you and trey. what i think is the misinformation machine is put into high gear. they are trying to... before the sun comes up here in the western world tomorrow and have some kind of... i think really what's going on
the first time that iran had attacked israel from iranian soil. so, that some of the background for what we might be seeing tonight. michael, just going back to the us here, politically, the president biden and for the white house and for the administration, how much appetite do you think there is for a broader conflict orfor israel opening up new fronts in this war? we know, we have been hearing from president biden time and time again, telling the israeli government make sure you show some restraint here. there seems to be very little appetite for much escalation. i would say zero appetite, actually. i think one of the us goals since the beginning of the gaza conflict has really been to prevent this very scenario, prevent the widening all the sort of regional escalation of the conflict because president biden doesn't want to see the us dragged into
yesterday on ukraine with antony blinken meeting with ukrainian foreign minister who was a special guests there. so they're really, really have a lot to discuss all of this, of course, leading the way to the larger g7 meeting, which will be held in the southern region of pula with president biden and the other leaders of the g7 nations in mid-june. and the scenario could change a lot before then, john, i guess all comes out to sanctions at least with the g7 is concerned, you have the foreign ministers, there speaking capri the us president, was very adamant earlier in the week, he said that he would be working with allies as well as the g7 for another route to sanctions on ran. >> is that maybe now on hold at least for a time well, i think one of the big issues is that many of these g7 countries outside of the united states do have relationships with iran. >> and so they want more targeted sanctions. they don't all agree on the language and that yesterday was the topic of conversation was the length which around these sanctions, what they're gonna do, how they're going to do it, if it's just going to be to sanction those who who make the
increasingly being strengthened as they continue to try to take as much ukrainian territory as possible. hagar ukrainian territory as possible. how would ou ukrainian territory as possible. how would you describe the mood in ukraine at the moment? it is difficult. we _ ukraine at the moment? it is difficult. we were _ ukraine at the moment? it 3 difficult. we were talking to people here in kyiv after this potential much—needed arrival of american support, as they see it, and there really is an almost deflation in the sense that people always knew that ukrainians would be fighting this alone, but what has been so pivotal is the level of western help to help p"°p up is the level of western help to help prop up that fight. but we are in a chapter now where anyone who volunteers, who wanted to step up and fight for ukraine, did so long ago in the wake of this full—scale invasion. they are now either injured or exhausted on the front line or have been killed. so we are now in this tricky scenario for ukraine where it is trying to mobilise as many men as possible.
saturday when that coalition came together, healthy israelis repel that aerosol from iran. >> i have to imagine ms secretary if if the iranians are more successful next time around and perhaps they telegraphed at last weekend in a way that it was repelled. but next time around, if it doesn't doesn't work out that way, the us could get drawn in what, what, what kind of advice would you give the president, the administration in a scenario like that? we read jumping too far ahead of ourselves. what do you think? >> well i think we're probably looking at two paths forward gym at this point is that i do believe that the better path would be to have israel reinforce that coalition that came together. that in effect really put together the defense of israel by 99%, knocking down those missiles. it's a great coalition made up of the united
have engaged in for years. iran has several proxies in the region, including hezbollah in lebanon, which is a prescribed terrorist organisation in some countries, as well as hamas — same scenario there — and these armed groups in syria and iraq. what world leaders are hoping is a return to that shadow war, to that engagement via proxies as a form of de—escalation. for now, here, as information keeps coming in, we're going to continue gathering it and analysing it in the aftermath of this attack. the latest from bbc verify. nato secretary generaljens stoltenberg has been speaking about the situation in the middle east. translation: of course we are concerned, and i echo— of course we are concerned, and i echo the _ of course we are concerned, and i echo the words by the g7 foreign ministers — echo the words by the g7 foreign ministers and other national leaders who have _ ministers and other national leaders who have called on all parties to de—escalate the tensions. no—one
be clear on this first one. >> i think what israel did was smart. >> they launched 1%, 1% of the amount of weapons that iran launched. i ran launched over 300 missiles, drones, israel launched like three or four. so he launched 1%. so i ran, had a disproportional response to the bombing of that compound. >> israel has had less than a proportional response. >> it was message to iran that said, your weapons can get through our defenses atoms, but our weapons can get through your defense systems. you should remember that. now everybody go back to the way it was, but let's be clear, you know what the way it was, the way it was is i ran attacking israel with all of their proxies right? with hezbollah. & houthis and hamas. and so it's not like it's just going back to this wonderful scenario. iran's been messing with israel frey all through all of its proxies but i think what israel did was smart. i think it was limited. it's not looking for provocation. it's