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Amendment we know is incorrect gives them the ability to have any weapon they want, an ar-15, a weapon of war. and that is why we have been so slow to change. that's why we haven't changed outside of fits and starts over the years. >> you talk about their interpretation of the second amendment. their interpretation of the second amendment is not only incorrect but doesn't match up with actually what the united states supreme court says the second amendment means. and it is scalia, it is thomas, it is -- well, not thomas. it is scalia and the majority of the rest of the court who don't view the...

And really, i think, the public losing trust in this institution. something that we've seen on the decline. we've seen the american trust in the judiciary, the supreme court going down recently, and this could really take it to the next level. >> pete, if you would, take us a little bit down with the supreme court will also be looking at this term. i mean, it's going to be packed. >> well, another big case is deciding what the second amendment means. the supreme court has been deciding this bit by bit. in 2008, the supreme court, after centuries of confusion about this said, yes, the second am...

This is a case from maine. the supreme court in the past has said that states can't block parents from giving money to schools that are run by religious organizations. that is to say, if they have a religious status, but this case takes it the next step further and says, what if the schools actually offer religious education, jose? >> and interesting, victoria, what people are talking about the supreme court will be looking at. what the second amendment means. i mean, there are some -- the court has generally stayed away from gun issues, but this is a very interesting kind of question they're ...

Saying they would keep the stay in place. you have to ask yourself would it have been different if anthony kennedy were still there instead of brett kavanaugh. and i don't know, because sometimes he was deferential to the military. >> and guns, the precedent from the supreme court on handguns has been the d.c. handgun law which was overturned by the court. >> so that was 2008, the supreme court said for the first time in our nation's history what the second amendment means. and all the court said is, it means you have the right to have a handgun in your home for self-defense. the court has stu...

Regulated militia, being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms, shall not be infringed. they might be the most debated 27 words in the english language. listen to what former chief justice of the united states warren burger, a conservative nominated by richard nixon had to say in 1991 about the amendment. >> this has been the subject of one of the greatest pieces of fraud i repeat the word fraud on the american public by special interest groups that i have ever seen in my lifetime. >> i want to bring in one of america's finest constitutional s...