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we can't leave it to illinois. we must solve that issue with a 15-week limit at a minimum. >> joining us now is politics reporter for sema for, shelby talcott. she woke up way too early in milwaukee to report. what was your big take-aways specifically to how the candidates dealt with the topic of abortion? >> i thought that was one of the areas which showed that the republican party is still really wishy-washy on the topic of abortion. we spoke to the sba president who was an anti-abortion activist group afterwards, and she seemed a little disappointed in both the candidates responses and also how the questions were framed. and i think the overarching team with the abortion topic on the debate stage last night was that republicans still haven't figured out how to adequately talk about this issue in the wake of roe. >> and shelby, they also haven't
was to make the debate stage because it would be a big opportunity to get eyeballs and get his name out there. whether or not you think he did a good or bad job, i think he got that done clearly. the other person who i think will be really interesting to see whether he gets a bump in the polls or not is ron desantis because remember before this debate, ron desantis' campaign was telling everybody he was going to be the center of attacks. he was not. so i'm curious whether that means there's a shift in who people think is in second place or whether -- whether he remains in second place and gets a bump in the polls from how he did. >> thank you so much, shelby. politics reporter for sema for, shelby talcott, thanks for coming on this morning. >> plus the leader of the wagner mercenary group who led his fighters on a short-lived march towards moscow just two months ago has reportedly died in a plane crash. the question this morning was
they believe works in their favor. joining us now politics reporter for sema for, shelby talcott. let's start with what you're hearing from those anti-abortion groups and that proposed ban. >> yeah, so the big thing here is sba, one of the biggest anti-abortion groups in the country is effectively pushing for republicans to go on offense with this issue after seeing how it negatively affected them in the mid-terms. and i think the underlying thing here is that the data they compiled and the memo they sent out, they sent it out to 2024 republican campaigns, to staffers on the hill, to anti-abortion activists across the country, so this is broadly sent out in an attempt to get republicans on the same page, on abortion which they have not done so far, and then also it indicates that they're going to