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While on the run changing directions. He and matt were very close to being caught several times. The sheriffs deputy vehicle pupped up in the vicinity of where they were and they were somewhat surprised. They said matt fell backwards and, you know made some noise but the sheriffs deputy didnt locate them. Reporter wiley saying sweat said authorities were combing the forest floor while he was hiding in a tree stand used for hunting above them. This as we see a graphic image of richard matt moments after he was shot. He was lying on the ground a gunshot wound to the top of his skull. Cnn learns ...

Inmates always have if they have a bridge to burn with somebody if they have been caught doing something, they are going to say, hey, sergeant dumas did this or that. >> sure. >> that's the way it is. now that they have an opportunity to voice themselves they are going to play with the fbi and the inspector general's office and things are going to get twisted. >> right. >> there is a significant drug problem in all facilities. that's because of the openness that the department lets the visitors come in with. >> we are going to talk to you more. the problem is not going away anytime soon. thank...

Workers suspended including three at the very top as the investigation of the prison break moves forward. the cozy relationships between guards and inmates under scrutiny. we want to talk to jeff dumas who worked in corrections 25 years, many at clinton. thank you for joining us. >> good morning, michaela. >> we look at the list of head that is are rolling. i think we have the list superintendent first deputy superintendent nine security staff employees. we know you worked with the superintendent. what do you know about him, when you worked with him? how did he run the prison? >> he did an out...