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Contempt of congress. i don't think anybody knows what the rules are after the democrats leave power. do you -- does the speaker -- is the speaker of the house going to tear up democratic state of the union? we have this precedent now that if you are a two-term -- going to be a tomb term president, you're going to get impeached as soon as you lose the house and your first term. is that going to be boomeranged on the democrats? does the speaker of the house have the right to remove anybody off a committee he wishes despite the minority leaders selections? and when biden leaves office, will a re...

The democrats have gone. you look at adam schiff, he should not be serving on intel. >> this has been one of the questions that i poised to nancy pelosi in the recent weeks about whether or not she was concerned about setting precedent by going after marjorie taylor greene, by going after paul gosar, that republicans would simply replicate it anytime they were upset or concerned about any democrats in a republican majority. she dismissed that saying they had to take action, given greene's rhetoric and given what gosar day. but it shows you very quickly that mccarthy if he's speaker plans to do...

Allegations of wrongdoing. if you think about this, a president wrote a note on presidential letterhead, a blackmail letter. they couldn't decline that nobody should know about that criminal conduct. executive privilege is not meant to cover that. so i don't think he's going to make any grounds with the court making an argument. lawsuits by their nature are difficult for litigants. they are not the most pleasant things. he's saying it's harassment for them to investigate. such is the nature of checks and balances. i think he'll find an unfriendly bench. >> this is an historic case and it could...

Scheme of things very important except to me, what it does do is help prosecutors hopefully establish intent and state of mind because we know that the behavior that's being looked into, tax fraud, tax evasion, et cetera has been going on for decades. so we're looking at setting precedent, and we're looking at state of mind and intent. and that's incredibly important when we're talking about criminal cases. >> and you said many times that whatever was happening, he would have known because control is everything. mary trump, thank you for being with us tonight. good luck going forward. >> thank...

So we're looking at setting precedent, and we're looking at state of mind and intent. and that's incredibly important when we're talking about criminal cases. >> and you said many times that whatever was happening, he would have known because control is everything. mary trump, thank you for being with us tonight. good luck going forward. >> thank you. >> all right. now, there is another window into potential distress for the former president, and that is the ongoing criminal investigation into rudy giuliani because of his dealings with ukraine. cnn has just obtained exclusive audio that expo...