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0 you don't -- but the chief justice has often said that he doesn't really like to come to these things because they're political. but he's come to many of them. i think he has one -- >> he has come to every one. >> one of the records. something like 18. >> even during the covid year when almost nobody came, he was the only supreme court justice who came. we see there the secretary of transportation, pete buttigieg, secretary of energy. you're joining us, you're one of the preeminent biographers of joe biden. what is going through his mind in this very unique landscape with a new republican-le...

Of the _ discussions to lower the temperature of the debate between the two governments, often there is a symbolic— governments, often there is a symbolic moment in public where the two shake _ symbolic moment in public where the two shake hands on the doorstep of, say, butte _ two shake hands on the doorstep of, say, butte house and they go inside and have _ say, butte house and they go inside and have their talks, but this is very— and have their talks, but this is very much— and have their talks, but this is very much private, very much away from _ very much private, very much away fr...

Secondly, bringing home the bacon for a lot of these folks on the far-right, is sacrilegious. they don't want earmarks back home, they want to run against washington and one against all the port barrel they have -- so you take away those two traditional elements that leaders have used as levers of power, and you deprive leaders of their ability to keep folks in line and we're left with the cast of today. >> the idea of those earmarks and the impact of that funding, right now, in stark contrast, you see the president of the united states, senator mitch mcconnell, not the best of friends will ju...

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Chairs. we're almost seeing the fact that the c-span cameras are having such a free for all today because there is -- there are no house rules preventing them from showing everything going on is almost a metaphor for the kind of freedom that these rebels are pushing for, some of the rebels, i should say. but it's the kind of thing that speakers don't like to show the american people. they don't want the american people to see democrats and republicans talking in a friendly way, democrats and republicans making deals, shaking hands. >> well, i don't necessarily agree. i think the american peopl...