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Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20140212:00:10:00

she seemed to be very fluent on what went on between her and guadagno, the lieutenant governor. about them holding her up and saying if you don't support this real estate deal on the waterfront, you're not getting any help from us on funding. you're investigating sandy funding. this something you would like to know whether it was a strong-arm tactic used down there in hoboken by the lieutenant governor on behalf of the governor? >> chris, i have seen no evidence of any kind of strong-arm tactics or politics. i think this was just managerial incompetence. >> wait a minute. the charge for the mayor issue is caught on a parking lot on shoprite and told on the parking lot it shouldn't be this way, but the governor wants you to know that he is saying if you don't support this real estate deal, forget the money. you're not getting it. that's not about managerial incompetence. that's a charge to me of extortion. what do you take it as? it's not managerial incompetence. >> the situation with the sandy recovery money that we're investigating.

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Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20140212:07:10:00

this something you would like to know whether it was a strong-arm tactic used down there in hoboken by the lieutenant governor on behalf of the governor? >> chris, i have seen no evidence of any kind of strong-arm tactics or politics. i think this was just managerial incompetence. >> wait a minute. the charge for the mayor issue is caught on a parking lot on shoprite and told on the parking lot it shouldn't be this way, but the governor wants you to know that he is saying if you don't support this real estate deal, forget the money. you're not getting it. that's not about managerial incompetence. that's a charge to me of extortion. what do you take it as? it's not managerial incompetence. >> the situation with the sandy recovery money that we're investigating. >> what do you think? you're looking at the money end of this thing. are you curious what went down in hoboken that afternoon in that parking lot, or not? aren't you curious than? >> i think every new jerseyian is interested in knowing what happened. know one would approve of strong-arm tactics like that.

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Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20140131:00:11:00

he has not been subpoenaed yet i don't believe, but they're going to work their way in and up. just as what happened in watergate. >> the bridge might be the least of it when they're done. >> remember johnny friendly on the waterfront? >> which is in hoboken. >> i'm rooting for terry malloy. anyway, thank you. could have been a contributor. thank you, howard fineman. it's not funny. it's awful. but it's a hell of a yarn. we're getting pictures of the bullying operation which appears to have been the m.o. of his political team, the crew they're called, the lobbyists, the pressure people, and the alleged warning in a shoprite parking lot, you better get aboard the team here. plus, even before today's news from rudy, christie's poll numbers were sinking. the man seen as the gop's best chance to beat hillary rodham clinton keeps falling further and further behind her. and don't look now, but the tea party is losing its grip, its death grip i think. they wanted to destroy the food stamp program and lost.

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Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20140131:00:19:00

talk about the rockefeller project to the christie people in meeting, zimmer gets a call saying kim guadagno would be visiting hoboken in a few days. and that meeting in a shoprite parking lot is when zimmer says guadagno, the lieutenant governor, lays down the gauntlet. here is zimmer's recollection of what happened during that visit from the lieutenant governor. >> the fact is that the lieutenant governor came to hoboken. she pulled me aside in the parking lot, and she said i know it's not right. i know these things should not be connected, but they are, and if you tell anyone, i'll deny it. so these -- the bottom line is it's not fair for the governor to hold sandy funds hostage for the city of hoboken because he wants me to give back to one private developer. >> most people were trying to figure out motive in politics, sometimes it's money. it's not always that usually it's feeding a political army from what i've seen. you've got people who used to work for you and they're on the

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Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20140131:07:11:00

>> the bridge might be the least of it when they're done. >> remember johnny friendly on the waterfront? >> which is in hoboken. >> i'm rooting for terry malloy. anyway, thank you. could have been a contributor. thank you, howard fineman. it's not funny. it's awful. but it's a hell of a yarn. we're getting pictures of the bullying operation which appears to have been the m.o. of his political team, the crew they're called, the lobbyists, the pressure people, and the alleged warning in a shoprite parking lot, you better get aboard the team here. plus, even before today's news from rudy, christie's poll numbers were sinking. the man seen as the gop's best chance to beat hillary rodham clinton keeps falling further and further behind her. and don't look now, but the tea party is losing its grip, its death grip i think. they wanted to destroy the food stamp program and lost. they want to keep the sequester cuts going and lost. they lost an effort to shut down the government. no wonder establishment republicans like john boehner

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Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20140131:07:19:00

and that meeting in a shoprite parking lot is when zimmer says guadagno, the lieutenant governor, lays down the gauntlet. here is zimmer's recollection of what happened during that visit from the lieutenant governor. >> the fact is that the lieutenant governor came to hoboken. she pulled me aside in the parking lot, and she said i know it's not right. i know these things should not be connected, but they are, and if you tell anyone, i'll deny it. so these -- the bottom line is it's not fair for the governor to hold sandy funds hostage for the city of hoboken because he wants me to give back to one private developer. >> most people were trying to figure out motive in politics, sometimes it's money. it's not always that usually it's feeding a political army from what i've seen. you've got people who used to work for you and they're on the public salary. and they may go into the private sector. they're not going to the private sector. they're going to that train of people that follows public office around and makes money

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Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20140118:18:09:00

they were miked up, but not when the cameras were rolling and there is a lot of chatter going on in the crowd and on stage and everything. that -- i guess initiates a conversation with her, where he basically says to her, you know, the word at the statehouse is you're against the rockefeller project. and she says, i'm not necessarily against the rockefeller project, but i'm not necessarily for it. and he says something to the effect of, well, if you would get moving on that, those funds would start flowing. so that's the message she says she was delivered there. the message she says the lieutenant governor a few days earlier delivered to her outside that shoprite was more explicit. from the lieutenant governor, specifically invoked governor christie. the lieutenant governor saying i don't know why, but i was with governor christie, and he made it clear this is a -- this is important to him. of and i don't know if this is right, i don't think this is fair. but you're not going to get your sandy money, unless you move forward on this project. and then supposedly if you ever say this in public, i'll deny it. that's what's in the journal entry from back then and what dawn zimmer is saying happened. >> okay. steve, joining us here in the studio, he's been listening the entire time and i want to bring

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