Themselves after the new deal, roosevelt was enthused with infusing the country with hope, faith and optimism and even if the programs weren't working there was a good word from the white house and from the vice-president and to our aspirations in this country. >> and roosevelt also liked to your point, taxes. >> that's true. >> and custard. >> and custard, he had a hankering for ice cream, too, peter. yesterday joe biden went to a custard shop and got into a little tiff with the store manager after the store manager asked the vice-president to lower taxes. listen to what he called him. take a...