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The kgb when he resigned and he spent five years running possibly some agents in germany. but i workedith people like that. this is not a plum assignment in germany. spy master, i don't think so but master politician, yes. that has something to do with the difference between american politics and politics in a democracy and politics in a dictatorship. in the old soviet union, politics was deathly. if you lose, you die. in russia, politics is still played not so much by the rules but catch as catch can. if you win in that game where you use every means possible, you are a master. in the united ...

For the conversation wasn't finalized. we do know they had significant priorities, talking about ukraine, what the president described yesterday as basically russia's efforts to try to get into that country, the disruptive efforts there as well as the effort to as the president described it, an effort to push russia to try to stop its support of hostile regimes in countries like syria and iran and obviously in the wake of the intercontinental ballistic missile in north korea. whether they talk about moscow's meddling in the 2016 election, that remains to be seen. this is a meeting between the ...

According to "the daily beast," his foreign ministry has said the agenda will concern everything from syria to ukraine to returning two intelligence complexes on u.s. soil, even to gay rights in chechnya. joining us now, evelyn farkas, an msnbc national security analyst. also with us, aid re an car nis ski, a senior fellow at the atlantic council and an expert on russia. adrienne, this is the buffoon meets the spy master. can it be anything else? >> if you think about it, there will be two people on each side in the room who have some role to play in the discussion. two of them have 20 weeks e...

Vladimir putin is apparently still under way more than an hour now. >> this meeting was only expected to be 30 minutes. it's lasted quite some time. we know when president obama met with vladimir putin, i want to say it took three hours. we're going to share that meeting with you when we have it but until then joining us a former kgb agent who spied on the u.s. for ten years, now an american citizen and author of the book "deep undercover" my secret life and tangled allegiance as a kgb spy in america. jack, you're a man who knows the kjb as does vladimir putin. what's his game plan? >> let me ...

Atlantic council and an expert on russia. adrienne, this is the buffoon meets the spy master. can it be anything else? >> if you think about it, there will be two people on each side in the room who have some role to play in the discussion. two of them have 20 weeks each of foreign policy experience. the other guys have 20 years each. so even from the point of view of a more normal presidency, this is unprecedented that a president would step in when president obama went in as a relative novice, he brought people like mike mcfaul and people who had spent years studying russia, years understand...