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For the u.s. court of appeals for the district of columbia. he serves the 39th solicitor general of the united states, arguing cases before the supreme court of the united states on behalf of the united states. i had the privilege of arguing a case alongside judge starr. we were talking about it earlier, many years ago. he also served as the independent counsel during the clinton presidency and authored the starr report. he testified for almost 12 hours before the judiciary committee with regard to that report. judge starr is very familiar with this process. he is going to address a series of ...

It's ridiculous. [inaudible] president clinton had a game plan and it was very effective. stall, four corner offense as we used to say and pound the prosecutor, turn the country against the prosecutor and against the whole process before it gets to the house impeachment. the politics were different but what the house had in contrast to hear was a very comprehensive report. it's called the starr report. they could go through it and then they could look at all the evidence was all there. we had to hire a u-haul truck to send it up. they had the opportunity to go through it and determine if were ...

Relevant to the issues at hand, and what's happened here compared to the past, in the past you've had full special prosecutor reports, you had the starr report, you had the watergate report, you had all the materials we in watergate turned over to house judiciary committee. it never got to the senate because the evidence was so clear that the president, nixon resigned rather than face the trial, but in the case of clinton there was a ton of evidence, there was an extremely full report -- so full i think the next rules were changed so that we wouldn't have to endure that kind of report. here yo...

Unless you have no real witnesses, no real trial, no exoneration. >> how essential do you think the question of witnesses is to the nature of the process this ends up being? >> i think there will only be a fair trial if witnesses are relevant to the issues at hand, and what's happened here compared to the past, in the past you've had full special prosecutor reports, you had the starr report, you had the watergate report, you had all the materials we in watergate turned over to house judiciary committee. it never got to the senate because the evidence was so clear that the president, nixon resi...

The chief justice who happened to be quite a student of history including he said you are not a juror in the criminal justice sentence. so he will preside and if there is a need for ruling which is possible, he'll rule on that, but he will stay quiet. >> basically the majority has maximum authority. >> exactly right. >> and there's not a lot the chief justice is going to do about it. >> and he certainly is not going to be pining on the evidence. he will simply allow the defense lawyers to do what they're going to do. mark: not how it should be. >> it is. the senators are sitting in ultimate ju...