Leaders, al-baghdadi was surrounded by iraqis, so we are likely to see a splinter in isis, syrian isis, iraqi isis and isis in the saha region of africa. gillian: interesting, are we in a situation now where a new figure head leader has already been named and emerged and they're just carrying on or is there kind of this isis organization go through a leader list moment? >> who vouches for the new leader, that's one of the biggest thing al-qaeda had, one osama bid laden, we saw hamza bin laden, they'll but lot of competition, no one to bless the next isis leader, we are likely to see a splint n...